Jodha Akbar 29th April 2015..Adamant HB....Jodha blamed..ANALYSIS Pg-1

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Jodha Akbar 29th April 2015...Adamant HB...Jodha blamed.



1.
Jalal applies medicine on Murad's wounds.
Later, Salim applies medicines on Jalal's wound.


2.
HB Salima Jodha

HB refuses to drink water brought by Jodha.
Salima gives it later, HB accepts.
Salim consoles Jodha separately.


3.
Jodha outside in temple.
She prays for HB and safety of all gone for war.
Later while returning, some widows hold Jodha responsible for this war and death of their husbands in on goin war. They say Jodha should have converted.


4.
Jodha Ruqs
Ruqs also says had u converted there would have been no war.


5.
Jodha Aram bano
Nice scene. There were 2-3 scenes..

Jodha sends Aram to HB with some fruits but Hb refuses to eat.


6.
Shah i Iran court

Only one supporter of Iranian ruler is left.
Shah i Iran gives his force to this person and asks him to defeat Akbar.


7.
Scene of War Camp..

Mild Drinking Party at night before the war..
They celebrate their victory in the war which they WILL fight tomorrow.


8.
Jalal misses Jodha and Jodha misses him..
There was one scene in the starting showing this also.



Precap:
GB says to Jodha, Just tell HB that you are ready to convert.
In war field, Akbar fights with that rival ruler , and Akbar falls down from the horse while fighting.


Direct Link to the update meant for this Shah-i-Iran track::
The Daring Diplomatic Master Stroke of Akbar and Sheikh Mubarak


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Posted: 10 years ago
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What the hell why they dragging this track uff its become soo annoying now today i love only jodha and aram scene
aram is soo cute even that lil girl know that her mother cant do such a thing with mm aur mm kitne childish ban gaye hai uff wo tho ruks se
zyada irritating ho gaye hai ab
aur im dam sure makers want witch in 500 epi thats why they dragging this track
aur precap iss soo irritating im hate this GB
its mean GB going to force Jodha to convert

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks Abhay for the update. one thing I know for sure, I have never been so irritated with any track as I am now. CVS are just dragging it..Serial was picking up slowly and now I dont know what to say.
Edited by SindhuMenon - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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HI ABHAY
SORRY FOR NOT REPLYING BECAUSE I WAS BUSY BUT I READ ALL POSTS
TONIGHT I GOT SOME TIME TO REPLY U R POST.
MY VIEWS ARE--
1. CVS R DRAGGING THIS TRACK
2. WHY CVS R NOT FOCUSING SANAR ENDING AND THEY R INTRESTED IN ANOTHER WITCH GIRL IN JOJA LIFE(I WANT TO KNOW U R VIEWS ON SPOILER)PL
3. WHY THEY CHANGED HB CHARECTER(MY VIEW IS HB IS TESTING JO AS MEH IS JO STRONG OR NOT IN MAINTAINING SULTANAT IN ANY CIRCUMASTANCES)
4. THIS WEEK I DIDNT LIKE EPISODES



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Posted: 10 years ago
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res

Abhay

Updated post on prev thread. Pls see :)
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Hi Abhay

Less and less to say every day 😆 This serial is following a clipped sine wave curve. Clipped, because not only does it keep swinging between high and low, but also because it stagnates at the highs and lows for a few episodes. Now it is stuck in the flat low part of the curve. 🥱

The zid of old people is more than that of kids.

True. It also seems that the zid of the CVs to show us boring melodrama is more than the viewers' zid for better tracks.

I cannot believe that this satyagraha / anshan of Hamida Banu is being dragged so much. Why can't she take a simple No? And if she and her girly gang have any issues, they should wait for Jalal's return and ask him to meet their demands instead of sucking upto him and then making life miserable for the hapless Jodha. I hate such bullies who pick on people they know can never say no to them.

This reel Hamida is bugging me so much that I am getting negative feelings about even the real one, who was poles apart from this reel one.

In the scene with Aram Banu, it appeared to me that Hamida does not hate Jodha. She only wants Jodha to listen to her. If Jodha gives in to her every whim and fancy, then she will treat Jodha with the "love due to a daughter". Is this love? Where one person has to remain submissive always?



Why is Jodha crying for this woman's selfish love? If she truly believes that she is right and that her husband is right, then she should leave Hamida alone to her tantrums. Even if a kid is throwing a tantrum, doctors advise ignoring them. THis is after all an old lady.



The scene where the locals blame Jodha for their widowhood was ridiculous. Jodha should have asked them if they were ready to convert if Jalal passed an order that everyone should convert to Islam?

In fact, I wish we had the TE who had asked everyone in his kingdom to divorce their wife if they had been married in childhood. This time round, Jalal could have asked everyone to convert so that the Shah-i-Iran would be pleased with his "support for darul Islam". I wonder how the people and Hamida would have reacted then.



Aram Banu's love for her mother is touching. One of the only redeeming features of the episode.. Where are the other princesses? Where is Bakshi Banu?

It looks like Jodha is being isolated like Jalal was during the God track and then he had to slog to get his position back.



The news of the witch track which will start even before JAlal reaches Agra is enough to dash any hopes of an improvement in the show and any rapprochement between JJ. So this misery of having to watch Hamida's sullen face, Jodha's anguished face, Ruq's smirking face and Salima's passive face will continue for long.

Even if Hamida does a U turn in the Jodha case, upon seeing the witch controlling Jalal, it will not matter any more. Because she is just not important enough to keep viewers' attention engaged. Who cares for her anyway?



Salim dressing Jalall's wounds and saying being the Shahenshah, Jalal should take greater care of himself, was the only scene I liked whole-heartedly.

The one thorn in the warring Mughals side is Murad with his permanently scowling face. I wish he is shown to die soon.


My last grouse -- a rival show featuring Akbar is showing the run up to the Chittor siege in such detail. It is very captivating. Why can't we have such episodes where the kings are shown to strategise and plan their attacks instead of just drinking sessions and self-congratulatory messages and a few sword fights.?



Thanks, Abhay, for the wonderful writeup. I refer to it a lot as I mute many scenes featuring Hamida and Ruq. 😊


Edited by RadhikaS0 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i also feel bore today. i only like aram banu and jodha scene and jalal, murad and salim scene. i feel some thing good happen. but nothing. at lest some good peoples with jodha. but no one say jodha is MEH or MUZ. when serial start we see she is strong women. but now cvs totally changed jodha role. she have so many rights. but here i feel she have no value. all person say anything to her.
TFS abhay.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posting from yesterday's episode thread...

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/122155570

Found this post relevant to coming track also...
Hence posting here..


Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

res, loved salim akbar :)

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Hi Abhay

Am late as usual these days. All the discussions are over. :) But just wanted to share my views with you.

The CVs maintain balance between good relations and bad relations. So if one relationship is on the upswing, another spirals down eccentrically.

Thankfully Salim's relation with his parents has improved drastically. It's not as if JA have suddenly become emotionally intelligent parents. But Salim hastransformed almost overnight into the most amiable, respectful and loving son any parent could desire.

I don't know who has given him what magic potion - i would love to get my hands onto it and give a bit of it to my own son ;p

Yesterday's episode was delightful for the camaraderie it showed between father and son -- fighting together, drinking together, sharing memories of the woman who binds them in invisible strings of love.

There was so much closeness between them, such comfort, affection, care and yet a certain deference in salim's attitude to his father, which was, as it should be.

The jalal who had flinched upon seeing a drink in his son's room for the first time was now accepting of his son's inclination for a quick shot. he himself poured one for salim in a man to man interaction, to acknowledge both salim's contribution to Mughal victories in war and the fact that he now recognized salim as an equal friend.

The manner in which jalal attended to salim's hurt hand was so touching. A rare moment of bonding where the father is proud of his son's war injuries yet concerned enough to apply medicine himself to a protesting son.

In the battle scene too, though Murad appeared to ditch his brother and go away, jalal kept an eye on salim even while fighting himself. The moment he saw salim get hurt, he rushed in like a protective father to defend his son from attackers. Salim had yearned for his father's love all these years, looking for conventional expressions. But jalal, as we all know, is a quirky fellow who has his own way of showing love. The love that stood bottled in the palace till now is finding release on the battlefield, which is where jalal is most at home.

Warriors though they be, father and son are also die-hard romantics and it's so endearing to see salim asking his father about his love for the former's mother and jalal teaching his son about the intricacies of true love.

The way jalal explained that the two worlds should be like dust in front of true love, that a true lover should be willing to fight the entire qayanat for his beloved -- was so mesmerizing.! It was but natural for salim to be enthralled by those qualifiers for true love and he seemed to be weighing the intensity of his own love for anar against these parameters.

Wonder how jalal would feel when he learns that salim is applying his teaching in wooing anar ;p after exhorting his son to fight for his love, what can he say when salim takes a stand for anar? LOL

The only JA scene was a study in contrast between the pain of Jodha waiting for Jalal's return and the euphoria of Jalal looking forward to meeting Jodha again soon. The awesome music playing in the background - my all time fave from the show - added to the piquant charm of the scene. :)

The rest of the episode was forgettable. No comments on the showers of tears!!! Clearly, at present, jalal and salim are eminently more watchable than the haremites :(

PS: I have no interest in the upcoming witch track. :( Harry Potter meets History is not something that attracts me.

And if the evil sorceress is successful in seducing jalal and turning him away from jodha, that would be the end of the show for me. :(

i don't believe a witch can enter a human body. She can only do black magic.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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My Note:
to night episode illustrates the increasingly strong pressure to Jodha, not only in the palace but also people have started urging her to convert.

What is doing Jodha? Silent and watched, this is a wise action👏👏, even though we know in her heart churned.

not easy for someone who has the power in the kingdom to keep thinking and being balanced, respecting the position of the elders in the palace.

This is the transformation of bold, brave and assertive attitude of Jodha figure that is currently the MEH.

I still do believe, she can take a wise decision...be patient guys...and don't pull your hair for being frustrated 😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Our CV's have proved once again that they are all failed writers. They don't have the pulse of the audience. No movie writing roles in the future for these guys, no way.

I reiterate, this track started as a track I really liked because it showed the kind of challenges the real MUZ would have faced. But now, this track has been stretched so thin it is beginning to irritate the hell out of me. It almost feels as if the CV's are honoring the bigot's Badauni's writings as they show his point of view that Jodha should convert because it will stop the war. Nobody is there to state Jodha's case, not even Jodha herself. Nobody to speak for freedom of religion, or the duty to resist external pressure.

What a waste of effort and talent.
Edited by Donjas - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I m happy dat watevr decision I took fr nt watching d ongoing track ws rite... 😆 I really appreciate ur efforts abhay in watching d epi and dn giving d updates here dat 2 widout loosing ur cool hatsoff 2 u... I wont hav dn dis cz nywyz I dnt want 2 increase my bp here...I really dnt knw y dey are dragging dis track its jst unnecessary humiliation 2wrds jodha... I really want jodha 2 b witty she shold cum up wid a teda idea like her hubby sidhe ungli se ghee nahi nikle toh ungli tedi karni chahiye I want her 2 threatn hamida dat if dey all are pressurizing her for d conversn dn she wil tke poison and her responsibility for death wuld b on hamida and all hamida's supporters and well in adv jodha shold write a lettr addressing jalal in whch all d incidnts shold b mentioned whch happened in his absnce wen he ws in d war and dis letter shold b givn 2 moti and she shold b told dat dis lettr shold b givn only and only 2 jalal and dn she shold die peacefully or rathr act as dyin 😆 so dat evry1 wil b bk 2 der senses spcly hamida and ofcourse wen jalal is bk he wil deal wid dm acc once he receives d lettr and got it read frm moti and nt ny1 😉 ufff I really wish sabki akkal thikane aa jayengi...splcy senior citizen hamida...nywyz I wil strt watching d epi once jalal is bk 2 agra as at presnt nobdy is der 2 openly support jodha and she is continuously shedding tears... thnx fr d update abhay... 😛

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