Jodha Akbar 23rd April 2015..ANALYSIS PG-1, TRPs inc Pg2, Post Pg-6,7 - Page 9

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Posted: 10 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

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Abhay, missed epi :( thanks for update. Will catch repeat and then comment. Sorry i couldn't comment on yesterday's thread :((

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Saw episode - half nice, half unbearable. 😊

I am not going to write much as you guys have already discussed the episode microscopically. And there's no fun in repeating the same thing.! All the posts are wonderful; esp Sayeri and Aadhya have done a fab job in detailing the episode. 👏

Just posting my own thoughts.

1. Good TRPs have risen! So we can hope for continuation of present JA-centric tracks. 😊

2. CVs seem to have taken the feedback given to them thru various means, including the thread Why we dislike Salim, into consideration and redeemed Salim's character.

What a turnaround!!! Am really happy to see the present happy, loving, friendly, respectful and standing up for his parents, Salim. Thank you, CVs!

I like the new Salim so much that I am even able to watch SA scenes. 5 mins of SA means 5 mins less of Hamida-Ruq, which is a huge relief!!! Seriously, I can even watch JAlal's army sleeping in their tents or Fazl beaming like an avuncular uncle while Jalal enthuses the troops with a morale-raising speech, than watch the hoity-toity Hamida Begum and the trying hard to suppress a smirk beneath fake concern Ruq. They are getting on to my nerves now and I am able to control with great difficulty the urge to shake Hamida Begum hard by the shoulders, as my grooming prevents me from even thinking of doing anything worse to her.

3. The bonding between Salim and his parents was developed beautifully in the scene where Salim reads his mother's letter to his father. A number of things must have impressed upon Salim then - the love and inseparable bonding between his parents, esp when he is in the warm embrace of first love, the trust his father shows by making him (Salim) a witness to his parents' bond by letting him read the special letter, his mother's concern for him and her desire that Jalal should take special care of Salim and bond with him during the war, how his mother is able to reassure his father that everything is normal in Agra and boosting his confidence for the war by hoping for his triumphant return soon, ...

There was so much in that simple scene. A world that Salim had never noticed before. A world of love, trust and respect between his parents that stoked his own longings and desires for something similar. A young adult only admires his parents' bonding when he himself falls in love and it is then that he truly understands what his parents mean to each other and why their love for each other sometimes makes them take certain seemingly harsh decisions.

There was such a friendly camaraderie between father and son that it was as if the earlier resentment had all turned into vapour! There was a new found esprit d'amour in the air with father and son experiencing feelings of love and generally being at peace with the whole world as long as their beloveds were fine. Salim even ventured to ask his father if he shared a secret code language with his mother! Well, just as Mirza Hakim had given lessons in love to Jalal, Jalal has now promised to teach Salim about the magical words written by Jodha some day. Hope Jalal doesn't repent that later. 😆

4. The bond building exercise between father and son continued with Salim upholding his father's wishes for a principled war in the face of Murad's derision for the same.

Will Jalal be able to see the ugly side of his "good son" Murad and the noble side of his "black sheep" Salim during this war?

5. Khanzada Begum, Babur's sister played a great role in keeping the family together and it was she who made Humayun's brothers accept Humayun as the emperor. Then we have the reel Gulbadan Begum who is merely a shadow of Hamida BEgum but has no sense to talk some sense to her bhabhijaan.

6. Salima Begum - This intelligent woman who used to advise Jalal on all matters during the early months of the show has suddenly become a wallflower, another hanger on of Hamida Begum. I hated her for not supporting Jodha when Jalal blamed Jodha for the twins' death. And I dislike her now for not supporting Jodha in front of Hamida BEgum. On many occassions earlier, we have seen she has influence over Hamida BEgum. Then why doesn't she at least try to say something in defence of Jodha whom she calls her sister? Her silence is baffling and a huge let down. I would be totally put off by such a friend or sister who never stood by me when I needed her.

&. Hamida's problem: She is now the typical EK saas, miffed with her daughter-in-law just for the sake of being her mother-in-law and for no justifiable reason. If Hamida really considered Jodha her daughter all these years, then why would she cause such a ruckus over Jodha's faith now? Is it just a prestige issue for her now -she cannot climb down from her high horse without conceding a win to Jodha? Does she just want the satisfaction that Jodha should carry out her orders asap - only then will she be a daughter to her? Is love conditional for Hamida Begum? Hasn't she seen enough politics and wars till now? Did she ever try to prevent any other war in the past?

Leave Jodha. Hamida Begum is now no longer even considerate of her son's authority or decisions. She is the same person who said to Jodha earlier that she would never go against her son's decisions. Well, what has changed now? By calling the Persian envoys for talks while Jalal is already engaged in battle with them, she is directly confronting and upturning his authority. Why? Because she feels some old gratitude for the Persian Shah? Really?

CVs, please redeem this character before she becomes a full-fledged vamp. Just because there is no other negative character other than Murad at present, pls don't turn a positive character negative.



Today I muted Hamida's scenes - she is so insufferable nowadays. The scenes involving her and Jodha resemble the humiliate-Jodha-at-any-cost tracks in 2013. What pleasure anyone derives from such scenes is debatable. I would rather listen to the bg song in SA scenes than watch this lady scowl and sulk!


Beautiful post👏agree with you nabout hamida, she is unbearable now, almost like ruku. Cant endure anymore of her illogical sulking
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: ayushimehra



Hi sindhu, Nice write -up, yes letter secene was awesome,

i recalled, once One letter how changed Akdha life, When Maham,Cheated Jalal. Or Jodha paid cost, drinking, poision.

Now realtionship, bonding, is Healthy, lettter is giving Message to Jalal, or war front, he is getting, his beloved letter.😃,so naturally energy will be boost -up.your post recalled me this


Likhe Jo Khat Tujhe..Woh Teri Yaad Mein
Hazaaron Rang Ke
Nazaare Ban Gaye

Jahan Tu Hai, Wahan Main Hoon
Mere Dil Ki Tu Dhadhkan Hai
Musafir Main Tu Manzil Hai
Main Pyaasa Hoon Tu Saawan Hai
Meri Duniya Yeh Nazre Hain
Meri Jannat Yeh Daaman Hai

Likhe Jo Khat Tujhe...


Salim is now own seeing, Love of his parents, Which Ruk words always, spoiled, Agree, if,

a Person is own, ready to hear, others stupid talks, person falut also, but others falut also bigger, who everytime behave, cheap, +selfish, behaviour, own benifit.

Now salim is own reading, Jodha Love +Transperency, With Salim, i think, which will sure open, salim Heart Door, which he closed for his parents. Hope for the best..

lets see, now jodha what does, because HB, invited SHAHI Iran members.

Is MEH, or MUM, in front of eachother😆 isNew challange for Jodha again.



or BB, TM, +jodha will sort out situation.

or is this way now HB, will see Jodha capabilty, more. or jodha will put on, her place HB heart again



Thanks much Ayushi.

Beautiful song, I love this one. AM sure when watching many would have feared if this letter written by Jodha would have been tampered. Thank goodness Kuch nahi hua...


Well said about Salim Ayushi...Regarding Jodha, I hope we get to see a firm Jodha who with support of BB and TM do whats right and not again cry today as HB is still mad with her. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I watched again yesterday episode to see if HB was indeed acting and could not figure out. Don't know if there is a surprise in store for us . I want Charu prediction to come true. Like you said and like Jodha said to jalal, this is a testing phase for her and lets hope she passes in this.




Edited by SindhuMenon - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Suganya.S



Very true charu 😳
@ sindhu : u have indeed putforth the right words in relatively subtle manner for the most vile creature in this earth ( yes , in this earth for me 😆 ) ... I m not that magnanimous too , as charu aptly said 😊

My pov , is that Hb still have no plan up on her sleeves ... Sorry , but my experience of watching JA tells me that no one has backup plans and if they have it will be worst case plan as in case of loopholed atifa track ... But may be the promo can be a plan of jalal or Ofc afeemised dream of Dayaan 😉 Or maybe Jo n RB works something I like that along with jalal 😕 ... Well , we should wait till next Monday to know the full plan 😭



Suganya, 😆😆😆 regarding Ruks. I love your style of writing with humor in it, reminds of Rashmis posts as well. Most probably as u said it will be dream only and that too of Ruks...
I know we will be left till next week to know the plan. thats the sad part
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Posted: 10 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

updated post on page 1. 😊


This vishkanya looks prettier than Ben. :)


This vishkanya looks prettier than Ben,

Vishkanya bass, looking wise hee prettier hoti hee,😆

Nahi too, Bhagvan hee Maalik hee.😆

Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: neesha19


Yet another wonderful post Radhika... I also feel exactly the same about HB. Hs she lost her brains or Ruks has fed her Afeem?? She is acting so childish? Yes why is so bothered about everyone going to war. Earlier also wars happened?And if she feels she is so obliged by the Persian Shah then..what about Rajvanshis who gave her shelter when she was pregnant? Why did not she stop the Chittor war then??? After all she should be more grateful becuase Jalal was born in that land... And what about those feelings she had for Jodha all the while..that Jodha was her daughter .. how come in moment all her feelings have vanished .. were they so shallow .? Was it so easy for her to say that to Jo to not call her Ammijaan and that there exists no relationship other than MUM and MUZ . Ridiculous to t he core... I also muted all HB-Jo scenes.. The bitterness is too much to digest. ..

And again I would ask the same about Jalal..if the promo is true... Is his love so shallow that in a moment he forgets everything and just gives divorce to his beloved wife ?? Wow now what kind of love is that???



Well said Neesha +Radhika.

you are Right Neesha HB, behaving, these days, Unfair, type. it means inner her concious,
she thinks Double standered.

i wrote yesterday, i think, HB need to check, Own again.

Radhika, writing about Salima point, i think she tried to speak Once, But HB, these days angry Lady not hearing, her.

i think some one made thread, HB is pretending, is story going there?😕

TRP is Increasing, its Plus point for Lovers of this serial.

Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: najma123

Ya. I watched it. And I feel so sorry for Salim... Havent watched other episodes were Salim rebelled and all but here he felt so pathetically nice... Poor puppy.

I have a doubt. There were like five guys who were standing when Jalal made the speech. One was an old man. Who is he? With long beard. The other was Man Singh. I recognised him fortunately what with the overgrown hair and no visit to the barbers. 😆

Ya, One was Salim... Who were the other guys? One son said the morcha is where I said it was not Salim... And there was someone next to him? These are sons, but which ones? And who was the guy in black next to Man Singh? Is he Rahim or another son?🥱

I watched it especially for the letter. Hilarious it was.😆 And Jalal should stop using bachche so often.. Doesnt suit him since he is a bachcha himself... He cant keep saying, shona, darling, my darling son, my baby... Beta sounds better... 😆

Hamida. But, I thought. WHAT IF it is Hamida's ploy?❓ *dimaag mein batti jali* What if Hamida is acting? And can I get a link to the talaak promo? Thanks again Abhay! Btw, I had asked you for the links to the post on MUZ's ships and administrative and business activities... I dont know if I forgot to send the PM or whether I am yet to receive yours... Can I have that, bro?

Thanks!
Love
Naj!




Najma,
Replying to all posts here only..

Faizi has not yet entered the show, as far as i know. The half Bald old person was Abu'l Fazl. Near him were 2 kids. They were Murad and Danial. Murad is the one who played young Akbar in episode-1, i think. Mirza Aziz Koka is missing these days. Rest of the point Diksha answered. Near Man Singh in black was Qutub, friend and foster brother of Salim.

I have read posts here and the discussions too. Quite interesting. Hamida "may" be acting, but if that is the case, then i want to blast the CV's. Because her method is also as "good" as what Tedha Jalal was doing with Salim initially, which led to this brawl between Salim-Jalal. :-P

You did not forget to send PM. :-P You have sent the PM but i have not replied to it yet. My inbox is bombared with lots of PMs, so i delay replying always. BTW, Those who are reading this post, and if i have not replied to their PMs, sorry for delay.

BTW, If you need any urgent information any time, then you can search for the required info, using the "search box" on the blog. The box is present on TOP RIGHT side on the Blog. Just enter your key search term, and you will get the search results from blog pages. :)

Promo link:
http://www.facebook.com/323665461151039/videos/399658330218418/

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek




Najma,
Replying to all posts here only..

Faizi has not yet entered the show, as far as i know. The half Bald old person was Abu'l Fazl. Near him were 2 kids. They were Murad and Danial. Murad is the one who played young Akbar in episode-1, i think. Mirza Aziz Koka is missing these days. Rest of the point Diksha answered. Near Man Singh in black was Qutub, friend and foster brother of Salim.

I have read posts here and the discussions too. Quite interesting. Hamida "may" be acting, but if that is the case, then i want to blast the CV's. Because her method is also as "good" as what Tedha Jalal was doing with Salim initially, which led to this brawl between Salim-Jalal. :-P

You did not forget to send PM. :-P You have sent the PM but i have not replied to it yet. My inbox is bombared with lots of PMs, so i delay replying always. BTW, Those who are reading this post, and if i have not replied to their PMs, sorry for delay.

BTW, If you need any urgent information any time, then you can search for the required info, using the "search box" on the blog. The box is present on TOP RIGHT side on the Blog. Just enter your key search term, and you will get the search results from blog pages. :)

Promo link:
http://www.facebook.com/323665461151039/videos/399658330218418/

Faizi was briefly introduced im the scene where navratnas were introduced for the first time, that time salim was the 9 yr old child. Faizi was shown and it was said he is brother of abul fazl son of sheikh mubarak. And that he was a wise and berilliant poet. But he
, Mullah dopiaza and fakir aziaoddin are not shown often after that introduction scene.
Edited by akdhaalways - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: ayushimehra


This vishkanya looks prettier than Ben,

Vishkanya bass, looking wise hee prettier hoti hee,😆

Nahi too, Bhagvan hee Maalik hee.😆



I hd read sumwhr dat she ws miss india 1st runner up...whch year cnt rembr properly...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#89
I really liked all the scenes...specially Jodha's love letter...I went back to see if she was in her room or Jalal's ...it think it was jala's but could not confirm..but that was so good.
As for Ruq..She is getting to be a totally witch with a B. when jalal was leaving she did adab to him...when he was only looking at Jodha.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

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Abhay, missed epi :( thanks for update. Will catch repeat and then comment. Sorry i couldn't comment on yesterday's thread :((

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Saw episode - half nice, half unbearable. 😊

I am not going to write much as you guys have already discussed the episode microscopically. And there's no fun in repeating the same thing.! All the posts are wonderful; esp Sayeri and Aadhya have done a fab job in detailing the episode. 👏

Just posting my own thoughts.

1. Good TRPs have risen! So we can hope for continuation of present JA-centric tracks. 😊

2. CVs seem to have taken the feedback given to them thru various means, including the thread Why we dislike Salim, into consideration and redeemed Salim's character.

What a turnaround!!! Am really happy to see the present happy, loving, friendly, respectful and standing up for his parents, Salim. Thank you, CVs!

I like the new Salim so much that I am even able to watch SA scenes. 5 mins of SA means 5 mins less of Hamida-Ruq, which is a huge relief!!! Seriously, I can even watch JAlal's army sleeping in their tents or Fazl beaming like an avuncular uncle while Jalal enthuses the troops with a morale-raising speech, than watch the hoity-toity Hamida Begum and the trying hard to suppress a smirk beneath fake concern Ruq. They are getting on to my nerves now and I am able to control with great difficulty the urge to shake Hamida Begum hard by the shoulders, as my grooming prevents me from even thinking of doing anything worse to her.

3. The bonding between Salim and his parents was developed beautifully in the scene where Salim reads his mother's letter to his father. A number of things must have impressed upon Salim then - the love and inseparable bonding between his parents, esp when he is in the warm embrace of first love, the trust his father shows by making him (Salim) a witness to his parents' bond by letting him read the special letter, his mother's concern for him and her desire that Jalal should take special care of Salim and bond with him during the war, how his mother is able to reassure his father that everything is normal in Agra and boosting his confidence for the war by hoping for his triumphant return soon, ...

There was so much in that simple scene. A world that Salim had never noticed before. A world of love, trust and respect between his parents that stoked his own longings and desires for something similar. A young adult only admires his parents' bonding when he himself falls in love and it is then that he truly understands what his parents mean to each other and why their love for each other sometimes makes them take certain seemingly harsh decisions.

There was such a friendly camaraderie between father and son that it was as if the earlier resentment had all turned into vapour! There was a new found esprit d'amour in the air with father and son experiencing feelings of love and generally being at peace with the whole world as long as their beloveds were fine. Salim even ventured to ask his father if he shared a secret code language with his mother! Well, just as Mirza Hakim had given lessons in love to Jalal, Jalal has now promised to teach Salim about the magical words written by Jodha some day. Hope Jalal doesn't repent that later. 😆

4. The bond building exercise between father and son continued with Salim upholding his father's wishes for a principled war in the face of Murad's derision for the same.

Will Jalal be able to see the ugly side of his "good son" Murad and the noble side of his "black sheep" Salim during this war?

5. Khanzada Begum, Babur's sister played a great role in keeping the family together and it was she who made Humayun's brothers accept Humayun as the emperor. Then we have the reel Gulbadan Begum who is merely a shadow of Hamida BEgum but has no sense to talk some sense to her bhabhijaan.

6. Salima Begum - This intelligent woman who used to advise Jalal on all matters during the early months of the show has suddenly become a wallflower, another hanger on of Hamida Begum. I hated her for not supporting Jodha when Jalal blamed Jodha for the twins' death. And I dislike her now for not supporting Jodha in front of Hamida BEgum. On many occassions earlier, we have seen she has influence over Hamida BEgum. Then why doesn't she at least try to say something in defence of Jodha whom she calls her sister? Her silence is baffling and a huge let down. I would be totally put off by such a friend or sister who never stood by me when I needed her.

&. Hamida's problem: She is now the typical EK saas, miffed with her daughter-in-law just for the sake of being her mother-in-law and for no justifiable reason. If Hamida really considered Jodha her daughter all these years, then why would she cause such a ruckus over Jodha's faith now? Is it just a prestige issue for her now -she cannot climb down from her high horse without conceding a win to Jodha? Does she just want the satisfaction that Jodha should carry out her orders asap - only then will she be a daughter to her? Is love conditional for Hamida Begum? Hasn't she seen enough politics and wars till now? Did she ever try to prevent any other war in the past?

Leave Jodha. Hamida Begum is now no longer even considerate of her son's authority or decisions. She is the same person who said to Jodha earlier that she would never go against her son's decisions. Well, what has changed now? By calling the Persian envoys for talks while Jalal is already engaged in battle with them, she is directly confronting and upturning his authority. Why? Because she feels some old gratitude for the Persian Shah? Really?

CVs, please redeem this character before she becomes a full-fledged vamp. Just because there is no other negative character other than Murad at present, pls don't turn a positive character negative.



Today I muted Hamida's scenes - she is so insufferable nowadays. The scenes involving her and Jodha resemble the humiliate-Jodha-at-any-cost tracks in 2013. What pleasure anyone derives from such scenes is debatable. I would rather listen to the bg song in SA scenes than watch this lady scowl and sulk!




Hi

Apologies for being absent these days, studying two careers and with many projects can left anyone on the verge of leave everything behind .

Coming to this episode, as for me and the majority have said, it was 50/50.
My thoughts:

1. It seems that the ratings have started to rise again, so keep continuing giving well balanced episodes, as the fans would like to see this show in its former glory👍🏼.

2. SA: skipped as always.

3. Murad still has a soft corner, but for how it will endure? Hope his father can see his negative side.

4. It's completely unbearable that Hamida now has started to humiliate Jodha, as if she isn't enough doing it privately as her daughter, now pubicly as the emperor's wife. As you have said Radhika, it reminds the tracks when everyone was humiliating her back in 2013.

5. Jalal made it clear in his speech that this war is for freedom, not for lands. Even Salim supports his father by cutting off Murad's opinion about the matter.

6. Now the best scene in the whole episode. Although he was hesitant, Jalal's truth of "being born as a result of love" gave Salim strength in order to read it. That scene was completely beautiful, because he discovered the extraordinary side of his parents that he has never seen before, where love, trust and respect are in full harmony, making him desire for something similar. He admires this by seeing his father's face, glowing with happiness, becoming the best bonding between father and son since. This could be the time which Salim can see that he's not that different from his father. Even he ask with curiosity about his parents love language.👏

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