'Empowerment is not sex' SONAKSHI'S Dig at DEEPIKA'S Shortfi - Page 28

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis



Sorry to butt in but nobody likes SRK's cheap jokes and everyone has slammed him for vulgarity and bringing down standards of awards.

Agree on same sex relationships though. People might not want to discriminate but they won't be able to tolerate this if it occurred in their family.


By including "nobody" you are again generalizing just as your argument seems to do so for me.

Largely women talking about sex is considered awkward in Asian society. Imagine a sex-comedy like Delhi Belly and replace the male leads with female ones- which one will be more accepting , that was the point.

There were many points in the video which had wrong choices - say the size issue. Now doctors can object and say thats wrong- it can lead to health ailments. That is consequence of the choice someone made . But the "right to eat till they burst" is of that person only. Alcohol, smoking - all spoke of an individual's choice. They never propagated them as right or wrong.

Similarly "sex outside marriage" is not highlighted as a "cool" or right choice. They just said women do have a right to sleep whoever they want and can also cheat if they want. It's their sexual freedom. Now how we look at cheating morally is another issue and a fair individualistic argument .



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Posted: 10 years ago
I have mostly seen criticism against SRK's cheap jokes. Including from journalists. This is why I used the word, "nobody". Except his fans and fawning coterie, I don't see unanimous praise for him.

And I don't buy the argument that men get leeway in this matter.

Bharti and couple of other female comedians crack cheap jokes. So where is the difference in response to men and women?

All choices are not given to all. Eating or not is an individual matter. But having sex outside marriage involves other individual as well hence it will be debated.

Delhi Belly had female characters as well and it got a mixed response. Aamir was slammed for it and still is. There's no disparity in response to matters of sex as you're trying to point out.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis

I have mostly seen criticism against SRK's cheap jokes. Including from journalists. This is why I used the word, "nobody". Except his fans and fawning coterie, I don't see unanimous praise for him.

And I don't buy the argument that men get leeway in this matter.

Bharti and couple of other female comedians crack cheap jokes. So where is the difference in response to men and women?

All choices are not given to all. Eating or not is an individual matter. But having sex outside marriage involves other individual as well hence it will be debated.

Delhi Belly had female characters as well and it got a mixed response. Aamir was slammed for it and still is. There's no disparity in response to matters of sex as you're trying to point out.


"Nobody " ceases to represent just the "I" IMO.


3 female comedians and how many male ones? Skewed ratio?

They showed a boner in Delhi Belly. Try that with a female lead. Just because it had a women doesn't mean they cracked jokes on female sexuality which they did with the guys.

Grand Masti made tonnes of money . Not receptive enough? Bollywood - no disparity at all. Cool .


If you would have followed the argument you would have noticed that I have not debated ,"cheating" as a morally wrong choice which is a fair argument in itself.

But point is this video doesn't paint cheating as right or wrong, they are simply saying a girl can and they do ,sleep outside the marriage , and that is their sexual freedom and their choice. They have the freedom to make right or wrong choices simple.

Nowhere in the video they are justifying cheating or endorsing smoking, alcohol or anything. What if the "sex outside marriage" meant open relationships, swingers, so many interpretations.


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Posted: 10 years ago
If Grand Masti succeeded it was also criticised.

And I don't know who would want parity with men in this aspect for which they earned labels like "men are dogs"! We don't even justify giving those choices to men. Why not finish this choice altogether for everyone than ask for it for oneself?

Films like Trishul,Kya Kehna, Heyy Baby, Khel, Andaz, Parineeta, Paa etc almost glorified unwed mothers and pre marital sex. Fashion, TDP, KANK again glorify so called sexual freedom.

Where's disparity? Rather disparity is in the portrayal! If men do it they are callous and if women do it they are still bechaaris who made mistake in naivete or were exploited blah blah even if they do it knowing fully well what they were up to.

I can see how films showing girls breaking marriage at the altar are projected as empowerment whereas it was a shame and torture if a man did the same.

I know about issues of gender bias but it doesn't mean I will endorse same things that men were called out for or play disparity/victim card selectively as it suits interests of female.

Regarding DB, it is still slammed. I hope such films are discouraged. Films with tharki women were made but not backed by A listers like AK, this is why they flopped. Get AK types to give due to tharki women also.

Sex outside marriage is crass. No justification for it talked of as #MyChoice by one individual. Not gonna entertain any excuse for it. Sorry.
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Posted: 10 years ago
It's just abt "my choice- Ok, what if my choice clash with your choice? Whose choice is better or more valid? Do we need 3rd party to chose?
It's just abt #my choice- Ok, innocent kids say that and rapists say that too... is it any brainer? Do we need a video for that? To send a "msg" ?

It;s just abt my choice- Ok, then do it discretely coz if u r out in open, u will be judged and face the music and consequences.

It's just abt my choice- So, every1 else jaye bhad me, I dont give a shit abt what other think... who r they anyways? A father, brother, husband, son, friends, society... who r they? I dont care. It's my choice... coz guess what... I am a WOMEN EMPOWERED... with alcohol,drugs, sex, prostitution (as a career), cheating, sexual object, wearing revealing cloths in public but dont take pics, Praise me for sex appeal but dont make jokes...

Its just abt my choice- coz i live in the world of my own where nobody exists. I m alone in my la la land, nobody can touch me or question my choice.

Its just abt my choice- Govinda was funny but i m dead serious n honest.

Its just abt my choice- Cant U get it? It never was before that's why we need videos like this.

Its just abt my choice- I dont blv in law and order, the system, The hard working men in some of the toughest fields like mining, construction, defence, or whatever... protector or provider... sab jaye bhad me

Its just abt my choice- Call me s**t, bitch, wh**e, behti ganga, kalmuhi, badchalan, Randi... whatever u like... that's ur choice... I will do what is my choice.

Its just abt my choice- So waht i m cheating one man but am making other men very happy in bed.. see, even they like my choice.

Its just abt my choice- Coz I dont blv in self control... thats for those who live in fairytale world or r superhumans... I am not one of them.. my choice is what matters.

Its just abt my choice- I dont care abt poor women sufferings, why do they suffer? Its their choices. I dont care.

Its just abt my choice- Thank God, I am a woman, go cry all u losers... men and some women too. 😛
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

It's just abt "my choice- Ok, what if my choice clash with your choice? Whose choice is better or more valid? Do we need 3rd party to chose?

It's just abt #my choice- Ok, innocent kids say that and rapists say that too... is it any brainer? Do we need a video for that? To send a "msg" ?

It;s just abt my choice- Ok, then do it discretely coz if u r out in open, u will be judged and face the music and consequences.

It's just abt my choice- So, every1 else jaye bhad me, I dont give a shit abt what other think... who r they anyways? A father, brother, husband, son, friends, society... who r they? I dont care. It's my choice... coz guess what... I am a WOMEN EMPOWERED... with alcohol,drugs, sex, prostitution (as a career), cheating, sexual object, wearing revealing cloths in public but dont take pics, Praise me for sex appeal but dont make jokes...

Its just abt my choice- coz i live in the world of my own where nobody exists. I m alone in my la la land, nobody can touch me or question my choice.

Its just abt my choice- Govinda was funny but i m dead serious n honest.

Its just abt my choice- Cant U get it? It never was before that's why we need videos like this.

Its just abt my choice- I dont blv in law and order, the system, The hard working men in some of the toughest fields like mining, construction, defence, or whatever... protector or provider... sab jaye bhad me

Its just abt my choice- Call me s**t, bitch, wh**e, behti ganga, kalmuhi, badchalan, Randi... whatever u like... that's ur choice... I will do what is my choice.

Its just abt my choice- So waht i m cheating one man but am making other men very happy in bed.. see, even they like my choice.

Its just abt my choice- Coz I dont blv in self control... thats for those who live in fairytale world or r superhumans... I am not one of them.. my choice is what matters.

Its just abt my choice- I dont care abt poor women sufferings, why do they suffer? Its their choices. I dont care.

Its just abt my choice- Thank God, I am a woman, go cry all u losers... men and some women too. 😛


I hope you're being sarcastic and I have grossly misinterpreted your msg..if not...
I'm embarrassed this is the message you took away from the video.
You are basically telling a women, any woman, which can be your sister, mother, grandmother etc, to conform to restricting rules society has set for them. How is that fair? Where are the rules for men? A man walks around in shorts, he has legs, but women are the ones subjected to lecherous remarks. Why? Men wear Tank tops, yet women are the ones who will get called out for look provocative. The msg goes beyond sex. The point is: it's my choice, you don't have to subject yourself to my choice. YOU are free to move on, thats YOUR choice. But that does not give you free reign to label me, one who has a different choice than you. Live and let live.

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