Can we discuss Ranbir - Page 2

I can never pity Ranbir. He is thoroughly spoiled by Pam. He has no business to insult his own mother. And anyways he is not in love with shilpa. His intentions are not good. So he knows very well that his behaviour is wrong. Knowingly hurting one's own mother is not acceptable.

Originally posted by: Vayuputras

I can never pity Ranbir. He is thoroughly spoiled by Pam. He has no business to insult his own mother. And anyways he is not in love with shilpa. His intentions are not good. So he knows very well that his behaviour is wrong. Knowingly hurting one's own mother is not acceptable.

Hope he gets arrested again for some other problem and then Ragini will save again. That may become the reason for Pam toning down and Ranbir turning the leaf.

Yes, it is deplorable that Ranbir is hurting his own little brother. He cannot be jealous of his brother getting his mother's love as that would happen only if Ranbir acknowledged to himself that he missed out on Ragini's love. He just has a mean streak in him.

And Pam has not done a good thing in fostering such hate in the boy, Nachiket has done nothing to dispel his son's open hatred either. Heaven help a woman who is married to the likes of Nachiket! First he abandons his wife, then lives in a bubble of self pity (which is allegedly strong pining), and is an absentee father not only to the two kids left behind but the three he took along with him, on top of that he allows Ranbir to hate and disrespect his mother, what a man!!

Shilpa definitely deserves a shaking to wake her up out of the euphoria that is gripping her, her mother deserves every humiliation coming her way. Wouldn't say Shilpa deserves Ranbir's treatment as she is young and foolish, the mother on the other hand is a scheming gold digger.

Truly hope Ranbir doesn't get Shilpa pregnant and then ditch her, wouldn't want to see Ragini's son stoop so low. Hope he has his epiphany long before then.

To an extent if we can accept his hatred for his mother as some personality disorder, anger etc. But what has Aarav done to him? His anger and frustration towards his siblings is what I fail to understand. Shouldn't he at least acknowledge them, but here he is making Aarav jealous and having an affair with Shilpa only to hurt his brother.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

There is a time and a place for hatred. He is a grown young man, a medical student, granted the distance from his mom and being wrenched away from her left indelible scars, but he is older, more mature now. Instead of blindly resenting his mom, he needs to ask his dad the reason for the divorce and resent his dad equally for taking him away from his mother.

A young child's anger and hatred when he doesn't quite comprehend and is helpless is one thing, to behave disrespectfully and to ignore every rule of decency (leaving Shilpa for dead, trying to make out with her in public) just to get back at your mother is unforgivable. Every criminal/crazy person has a past and a reason, doesn't make the crime any less punishable. The boy needed that slap from his mother, a couple more and he will hopefully be set straight.

I cannot wait for the day when he breaks down and acknowledges he loves his mom.

Hold on..this kid is in med school??? Dont you need to be a but more compassionate than that and I'm pretty sure you don't have the time to have 2 month long vacation till ur done ur residency. I thought he was a spoilt brat, but that kinda person cannot survive med school grueling.

Oh there is no way I'm trying to justify his actions, he is gotta have consequences for his actions, but he needed that from very beginning.
We can't really compare him to nishi, as nishi was brought up by ragini and like ranbir, she was probably closer to ragini too. Ragini was that hands on parent, who never let her frustrations get onto her kids. Hence the kids don't hate their dad that much.

However the dad wasn't there for his two kids. He was depressed and never really talked to them. Ranbir needed a parent, he got an aunt, who reinforced the idea or his mom leaving him. He grew up w disgust for his mom and now all of sudden his mom comes into his life and tries to discipline him. Of course he is gonna react..where was she before?

I don't agree w slapping kids or any other kinda physical abuse, but he definitely needs some discipline in his life. The first person to initiate this should be his dad. Ragini should go talk to her ex; by tall, I don't mean yell and scream.

But ur right that he doesn't have the maturity of med school or a future doctor. To leave a person dying in the car is not what the train u for. He might as well get expelled if his dean finds out..lol..if it was real.

I'm gonna throw a bit of my psychiatry expertise...his behavior w aarav..I see it as a defense mechanism to deal w ragini choosing aarav over ranbir. He probably feels that she loved aarav more than ranbir, hence chose him. Aarav took his place in ragini' life and ragini let that happen. I think Ranbir was their first born, so he must have extremely close to ragini. He thought he was the apple of her eye, but then he heard his mom say that her kids will never miss their dad or siblings...little ranbir was probably like momma what about me, am i not your kid?

i sympathize with ranbir for sure. ragini and neil need to repent for their mistakes. neil needs to feel bad for breaking up his marriage because the divorce was his fault. ragini needs to repent for splitting the kids we still don't know the story behind why she didn't get custody of all the kids why she chose to split the kids the way she did, she needs to explain her reasoning to her children atleast. as far as the whole shilpa matter is concerned she and arav are such duffods no one cares if they get hurt, but pam's handling of this matter will only prove to neil that she is an unfit mother, which makes me wonder why is she playing this dangerous game. ranbir fools around with shilpa leaves her is not going to make pam look good especially if she encouraged him in his wrong doings, and indirectly she will only bring neil closer to ragini, she will be saving arav from a very wrong girl, and she will alienate ranbir from the family.

I personally don't agree with the fact that situations make up the persons character. Yes he may have suffered a lot and has seen a lot in his early days of childhood, but as a person grow old they start thinking for themselves. They can choose for themselves how they want to be. They can distinguish between what is right and what is wrong. He is an adult and what he is doing with his brother is pure evilish. He may resent his parents for keeping him away from his mother but taking it out on his brother is not justified.

Originally posted by: randomsoul

Hold on..this kid is in med school??? Dont you need to be a but more compassionate than that and I'm pretty sure you don't have the time to have 2 month long vacation till ur done ur residency. I thought he was a spoilt brat, but that kinda person cannot survive med school grueling.

Oh there is no way I'm trying to justify his actions, he is gotta have consequences for his actions, but he needed that from very beginning.
We can't really compare him to nishi, as nishi was brought up by ragini and like ranbir, she was probably closer to ragini too. Ragini was that hands on parent, who never let her frustrations get onto her kids. Hence the kids don't hate their dad that much.

However the dad wasn't there for his two kids. He was depressed and never really talked to them. Ranbir needed a parent, he got an aunt, who reinforced the idea or his mom leaving him. He grew up w disgust for his mom and now all of sudden his mom comes into his life and tries to discipline him. Of course he is gonna react..where was she before?

I don't agree w slapping kids or any other kinda physical abuse, but he definitely needs some discipline in his life. The first person to initiate this should be his dad. Ragini should go talk to her ex; by tall, I don't mean yell and scream.

But ur right that he doesn't have the maturity of med school or a future doctor. To leave a person dying in the car is not what the train u for. He might as well get expelled if his dean finds out..lol..if it was real.

I'm gonna throw a bit of my psychiatry expertise...his behavior w aarav..I see it as a defense mechanism to deal w ragini choosing aarav over ranbir. He probably feels that she loved aarav more than ranbir, hence chose him. Aarav took his place in ragini' life and ragini let that happen. I think Ranbir was their first born, so he must have extremely close to ragini. He thought he was the apple of her eye, but then he heard his mom say that her kids will never miss their dad or siblings...little ranbir was probably like momma what about me, am i not your kid?

I agree that there is no way his actions should be the cause of pity, his past yes, but his present actions should get him in trouble, which should be initiated by his dad, who needs tell ranbir that ragini didn't leave him, but his dad chose him.

If the med school Dean found out and the Mumbai police case got into the far reaches of the US sheriff's station, yup, poor Ranbir would be expelled. And yes, with that kind of compassion for a hurt person (esp when he caused the accident), he would not a very good doctor make.

Has Ranbir even unconsciously acknowledged that he is angry because his mom abandoned him? Wouldn't that be a first step to transferring his resentment towards Aarav, the recipient of his mother's love that he was denied?

I did feel bad for Ranbir at the beginning, withdrawn, reserved, kind of sullen, and with so much pent up hatred for his mother but he is an adult now and needs to consciously sort out of his feelings (he can hate his mother all he wants; she was wrong in letting N walk out with the kids, get the divorce but don't split the kids up as if they are inanimate objects) so that he understands that what he is doing with Shilpa and Aarav is not right.

Okay, he is jealous of Aarav and so unconsciously thinks Aarav deserves the hurt coming his way. But what of Shilpa? Why hurt an innocent (!) bystander in all this family drama?

Pam has done a very shoddy job of instilling right and wrong in this guy.

he is much better then that looser Aarav

Ragini already talked twice about Ranbir to Nachiket, he is like... in that age he will do that, I don't want to push my thoughts on him, etc..means - like father like son.