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Originally posted by: Sabdabhala

I JUST READ TE ORIGINAL POST

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CANT STOP LAUGHING

OH MY GOD IT HURTS

Originally posted by: jayaks02

SRK was endorsing it for 8 years and now Hritik will do it - Fairness cream for men.

Fair & Lovely by HLL is such a regressive campaign. There is a group called Unfair & Lovely in which Nandita Das is an active member.

We Indians are too biased towards fair skin. It is rubbish. 😡

Yes, and towards long,straight hair, so that the Africans try hard to straighten out their tight curls, and towards large, open eyes, so that Chinese, Japanese and Korean girls undergo facial surgery to open up their slanting eyes.

There is no end to what women, and now even men, try to conform to a popular notion of good looks.

But there were, and are, worse things than Fair and Lovely. In China till the 1949 revolution, the feet of upper class women were bound tightly from childhood so that the adult woman had cramped, bent out of shape feet no longer than a normal palm. These feet were then encased in lovely, embroidered silk slippers!

The procedure was excruciatingly painful, and the woman could never walk for the rest of her life as the twisted feet could not bear her weight. This was supposed to be proof that she was well born enough so that she could be carried everywhere and did not need to walk. Only peasant women had normal feet, which were looked down upon as low class.

Now what is the yen for fair skin compared to such horrors? I frankly would not bother to condemn skin lightening creams unless they contain lead. Anymore than I would criticise the habit of colouring one's hair for tinting, which cannot be good for it if done from the teens!

As for the black(or brown) is beautiful mantra, it cannot be forced on anyone. I have a nice wheatish skin tone, which used to be the envy of my European and American women friends in the 1970s and 80s.They felt obliged to lie about in the sun to get such a shade, and then ended up getting an awkward line dividing the shade from their natural white skin in the middle of their foreheads, where the shadow of the sun hat (worn to avoid a headache) fell!😉

I do agree that the penchant for fair skin can be a major problem for the self esteem of our young women. But only if they let it happen. It will be tough, but in a country where 80% of the people are one shade or the other of dark, they just have to learn to tell all concerned to take a running jump, or get the latest Fair and Lovely cream!

By the way, SRK ka to pata nahin, but Hrithik is very fair. So how can he advertise a skin lightening cream?

And as for Nandita Das, I detest her ever since she made a nasty comment, in the US, that "Making films like LoC and Border was not a healthy trend, as these types of cinema tended to exploit anti-Pakistani sentiments for the sake of raking in the moolah."

If one were accept this reasoning, no WWII films should have been made at all, and I wonder that she did not include Chetan Anand's Haqeeqat about the 1962 India-China war.

I wrote a detailed rebuttal of this in the Times of India on Feb. 8, 2004 (I will PM the whole to anyone interested in it, it is too political to be carried in the IF, even in a chat club), the concluding para of which read as follows:

"To say that JP Dutta made Border and LOC to "rake in the moolah" is not merely spiteful, it is both inaccurate and stupid.

Morever, if Nandita Das had had a father or brother or any other close relative who had died in the battle of Longewala, or in Kargil, she would have sung quite a different tune about both these films. She obviously has no such relatives. The least she can do, under these circumstances, is to keep her mouth shut, and concentrate on community development and rain harvesting.

Before doing that, she should apologise to the families of the Indian soldiers who fought and died in the 1971 war and in Kargil - neither of which was of our seeking - for belittling what they achieved, at great personal cost, for the nation of which she is a part.

And she should thank her lucky stars that no such sacrifices have been or will be demanded of her".

Comments on this rebuttal in the Times of India:

1 Indiatimes Id:ravi_shendige

I am sorry miss Das but then if you feel making films like Border and LOC are not healthy - I must say & pardon my language - you have lost your mind. It is because artists/persons like you who live in fools paradise - that India & Indians have remained slaves for so many years. I wonder if you have guts to do what our soldiers do on our borders(you wont last a day) - you and your kind of like minded people never say thanks to them but feel sorry for making films which are a tribute to our men who die for us.

Ashim Raizada Bangalore

ashimraizada@indiatimes.com

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 03:34:24 pm

IndiatimesId:shwetabh_berkeley
Kudos to sashashyam for the factual and thoughtful comment. Judging by what Nandita Das has said in this interview, she strikes me as a complete moron. Also, about 'raking in the moolah' comment, isn't she doing the same or does she work for free? What's wrong with making some money in a good cause!
Wednesday, February 11, 2004 02:19:57 am

IndiatimesId:shwetabh_berkeley
Yeah, right! Nandita why dont you say this to the families of those dies in the Kargil operation while we were watching TV and eating in restaurants. Cinema should be a reflection of the times and that,s what LOC was, I am not sure about Border though..

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:24:23 pm

Indiatimes Id:vsat

I don't agree with Nandita Das views about the movies LOC & Border. Actually everyone has to know what happened to the past and our real Heros were those who were guarding our country (Soldiers). About her movie like FIRE, they are unhealthy to digest in our society. Patriotism is the foremost feeling everyone needs to have and depicting this thru movies is a great work. Hats off to JP Dutta.

It was of a piece with Arundhati Roy announcing loudly, in 1998 after our nuclear tests, that she was seceding from India. I rejoiced, but of course she did no such thing. She continues to live in a farmhouse in Maharashtra built partly on land that encroaches on a tribal habitat where building is banned. So much for integrity!

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Why just Indians Shree?

The whole world is biased towards fair skin. Our bias is nothing compared to apartheid.

Originally posted by: jayaks02

SRK was endorsing it for 8 years and now Hritik will do it - Fairness cream for men.

Fair & Lovely by HLL is such a regressive campaign. There is a group called Unfair & Lovely in which Nandita Das is an active member.

We Indians are too biased towards fair skin. It is rubbish. 😡

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Have just done that, my little Mishti, and do also take a look at the comments that appeared in the TOI about my rebuttal. I have also added them to the original post above.

About you and my Jodha Akbar posts, that is a wonderful compliment, my dear. Sometimes, when one of you mentions an old post of mine, I go back and read it with a lot of nostalgic pleasure.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

^^ Aunty please PM me your article, its a delight to read your words. I'd read all your posts on JA, which I missed in two straight days😃

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

^^ Aunty please PM me your article, its a delight to read your words. I'd read all your posts on JA, which I missed in two straight days😛

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

^^ Aunty please PM me your article, its a delight to read your words. I'd read all your posts on JA, which I missed in two straight days😛