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paagalbandar

@paagalbandar

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Posted: 10 years ago

😡OK after reading updates and all, few questions came to my mind...I like both Divyanka and Karan, so don't attack me...I m only commenting on Ishita and Raman as characters...

1. What is wrong in what Raman said in today's episode...I know Mihir asked Ishita to talk to Raman but, she is adamant in doing what Mihir is telling her...Apparently, she knows Mihir more than Raman???? Like Raman said, he knows Mihir since childhood, and he doesnt want his friend giving up on life, from his own experience...For her to bring up Raman's past in front of his ex like that was a bigger shock for me than, Raman yelling at her in front of Shagun to be honest...How come that is okay, why is it okay for Ishita, to bring the past and the pain Shagun caused Raman, right in front of Shagun to make him vulnerable... I am with Raman on this one, sorry to all those who are bashing him for that...he didn't do anything wrong...the fight started in the spur of the moment, and no one will be like excuse me please excuse me before I get angry and shout at my wife...that argument of Ishita was illogical...Yes he could have not yelled in front of Shagun, but, it all happened in spur of the moment..but her bringing his past in front of shogun and making him weak like that was stupid too...

2. What is wrong in what he said??? he said what we wanted him to say...why she needed to be all mahanta ki devi and bring Shagun with Adi...Adi could have come alone too...or if Adi couldn't live alone, Raman was happy to pay for everything and allow Adi and Shagun to live a decent life together...He gave that check didn't he...Raman knows his responsibility...Apparently, Ishita everytime seems to be taking decision for everyone, and she thinks always she is right, and I agree with Raman for his dialogue...Raman has lived with Shagun, Mihir, and his family for ages...Wouldnt he not know them more than Ishita???? for god's sake before deciding anything on anyone's behalf and taking decision, wouldn't' you at least consult your in-laws and most importantly your husband??? She never seems to do that...always, she takes the decision for everyone...

Everytime, she goes and makes promises to Shagun that others are not comfortable with, so she now has no right to complain...She was the one adamant on attending Shagun's wedding, she was the one who dragged everyone to dance at her wedding and get people insulted directly or indirectly...raman and family stopped her but she didn't listen than, and she didn't listen now when bringing Shagun into the house...Raman is dealing with this turmoil since Shagun entered the house, so i am all for Raman...Because of her, and her Shagun jaap, and her sister's obsession's with Shagun, She has ruined Bhalla family's peace, and also Mihir's life...so she should shut up, and let Raman decide along with Mihir, and help Mihir get over Mihika rather than running away...

3. Now coming to Raman and pre cap...not sure what is going to be shown, but, what is such a big deal if Shagun and Adi left...When was Adi living with Raman in the first place??? so whats the big deal...Just because he lives separately doesnt mean Adi can't be taken care of...Ever heard of depositing money for kids future CV's ??? And also paying fees in advance right in front of Adi so, he realizes that how much Raman is doing for him?? that can also create a stronger bond...If they live separately, Adi will realize how important is Ishita for Raman but, that is just too logical for CV's of indian tv shows...By living separately and working, Shagun can realize how difficult it is to get a job, and work hard, and stop plotting...Adi will realize how bad Shagun is...but thats to positive track for Ekta's show lol

4. Since when is Adi Ishita's responsibility??? He is Raman's son...He is Raman's and his family's responsibility, and he needs to get that through his head before opening his mouth like that...Ishita can refuse to apologize and walk out...she does have a choice also, if she is a strong lady...but, that would be too non cultured thing to do lol :D hahahha I mean seriously who puts up with this nonsense in real life??? Is this the mentality of our generation?? these shows don't represent us at alll...

I know for sure, I would not put up with this nonsense...I would just tell my hubby, hunny first figure out what you want in life, and let me know...than i will come and join you, because, life is too precious to deal with this nonsense...i think its high time hindi tv serials starts showing some logical tracks that actually the educated audience can relate to...indian audience is not the same anymore...majority of women now are educated, and understand the difference between right and wrong, and are practical...so this illogical tract my dear CV's will not help your drama last long on television 😡 Now women have equal rights as men, and women will not take any nonsense in name of being cultured or mahaan lol 😆 what world do these people live in???? i mean seriously...do leave your comments

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Posted: 10 years ago

umm...just one question ...So when Ishita brought home Shagun and Adi...who was with her? BTW which episode since Shagun and Adi have been living at the Bhallas have Raman or anyone else offered to have them move to another place to live in? Did I miss something?

P.S. My point is that if someone makes mistake and others keep quiet ...the blame lies in both sides...since the bhallas and Raman are adult. If Ishita is at fault for making decisions...so are the folks who keep quiet and do what she says...

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Sandysprings

@Sandysprings

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Posted: 10 years ago

Show became illogical completely ..

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Angel13

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan
umm...just one question ...So when Ishita brought home Shagun and Adi...who was with her? BTW which episode since Shagun and Adi have been living at the Bhallas have Raman or anyone else offered to have them move to another place to live in? Did I miss something?

P.S. My point is that if someone makes mistake and others keep quiet ...the blame lies in both sides...since the bhallas and Raman are adult. If Ishita is at fault for making decisions...so are the folks who keep quiet and do what she says...

Same exact my answer to this post

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paagalbandar

@paagalbandar

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan
umm...just one question ...So when Ishita brought home Shagun and Adi...who was with her? BTW which episode since Shagun and Adi have been living at the Bhallas have Raman or anyone else offered to have them move to another place to live in? Did I miss something?

See at that time Shagun was in no condition to be left alone, just for that one day/night...But later on when Shagun was pretending to get a job, and pretending to get a house, she was only communicating with Ishita...Have you ever seen Shagun talk to Raman??? NO because, she knows that Raman will simply see through her lies...So, isn't it Ishita's responsibility to inform her husband also as to what Shagun was doing about getting a job and moving out??? Raman has been ignoring and being rude to Shagun all this while...He has not accepted her presence in any way...He kept quite because his own wife brought his ex in to the house...when he refused last time, did Ishita listen???? NOOO
And I don't think Raman is in the position to argue because Adi is also present in that house...if Raman says anything against Shagun, he will lose his son, and that is why he kept mum...Raman knows that there is no point as Ishita will not listen to him...when has she ever??? Even during the earring episode, he specifically told her that these earrings are ancestral earrings, she still gave it to Shagun...did she listen to him? NOOO...When he said, I want this day to be celebrated as our relationship day, did she listen??? NOOO, she made his new year hell by celebrating his and Shagun's anniversary...

So how do you expect Raman to tell her to kick out Shagun, when Adi is present in the house...Shouldnt she be understanding her husband's discomfort and anger??? She pretends to understand the whole world and their feelings, why can't she understand her husband's discomfort???

When Shagun pretended to move out, and put Ishita's name for confirmation...She is the one who went and told Bhalla aunty that Shagun was living in such colony, it was not Raman...If anything, when did Ishita also try to talk to Raman, and tell him about what Shagun was planning regarding her future and moving out??? Yes now, Raman is going to be a jerk like i said in my last few points, and that he is also going to be wrong in future...but, in today's episode what he said was absolutely correct...

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ixi-shaj

@ixi-shaj

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Posted: 10 years ago

The whole show is basically f****d up its doesn't make any sense and you're right the divynkas character is ridiculous. I doubt this has ever happened only in ekta serials. Ishits seems to be setting her own house on fire. Her doing all this doesn't make her mahaan but he complete opposite.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: paagalbandar

See at that time Shagun was in no condition to be left alone, just for that one day/night...But later on when Shagun was pretending to get a job, and pretending to get a house, she was only communicating with Ishita...Have you ever seen Shagun talk to Raman??? NO because, she knows that Raman will simply see through her lies...So, isn't it Ishita's responsibility to inform her husband also as to what Shagun was doing about getting a job and moving out??? Raman has been ignoring and being rude to Shagun all this while...He has not accepted her presence in any way...He kept quite because his own wife brought his ex in to the house...when he refused last time, did Ishita listen???? NOOO
And I don't think Raman is in the position to argue because Adi is also present in that house...if Raman says anything against Shagun, he will lose his son, and that is why he kept mum...Raman knows that there is no point as Ishita will not listen to him...when has she ever??? Even during the earring episode, he specifically told her that these earrings are ancestral earrings, she still gave it to Shagun...did she listen to him? NOOO...When he said, I want this day to be celebrated as our relationship day, did she listen??? NOOO, she made his new year hell by celebrating his and Shagun's anniversary...

So how do you expect Raman to tell her to kick out Shagun, when Adi is present in the house...Shouldnt she be understanding her husband's discomfort and anger??? She pretends to understand the whole world and their feelings, why can't she understand her husband's discomfort???
When Shagun pretended to move out, and put Ishita's name for confirmation...She is the one who went and told Bhalla aunty that Shagun was living in such colony, it was not Raman...If anything, when did Ishita also try to talk to Raman, and tell him about what Shagun was planning regarding her future and moving out??? Yes now, Raman is going to be a jerk like i said in my last few points, and that he is also going to be wrong in future...but, in today's episode what he said was absolutely correct...

I understand...that Shagun was not communicating with Raman...but whose house is that RKBs and the Bhallas. What happened in the argument today (the 1st one) ..Ishita wanted something..which RKB didnt agree too...what did he do? He got upset and let her know that's HIS decision to make...So this two people are related to Raman..why did he choose to let Ishita decide this time the path.

I understand Raman's situation...this was Adi and he would do anything to keep him safe and secure and comfortable...there's nothing wrong in there.
What's wrong is to put the blame on Ishita's head...Bhallas are very vocal people ..the only reason they are quiet is because of GKC...so for Raman and others to blame Ishita for Shagun staying there is just ludicrous.

And Raman only is uncomfortable? Ishita is not? Hes uncomfortable with Shagun...she with both of his ex and his son...Isn't that an unfair to blame her for this?

I support Raman most of the times...even when he's harsh...My objection to today are:

the argument happened in front of Shagun( both were at fault there)..but for him to call her 'dumb' when he knew Shagun was around...That's not Raman..
2nd argument: For him to put the blame on Ishita about Adi and Shagun and calling her Jagat Maata when he's the one who has on multiple occasions expressed gratitude to her for being so loving to Adi and even the night they brought them home, for taking care of Shagun. Raman cannot bypass his accountability in this case...if Ishita was at fault that night , so is he..and if Ishita is at fault about Shagun and Adi staying at Bhalla house, so is he and his family...because I never saw even once one of them complaining about Shagun other than one time Toshijee did...and now they are all gaga over their GKC...and Ishita is at fault? Are Bhallas little children or adults?

so I have to disagree about Raman's words today. He's an impulsive guy but he's never been so callous...I was disappointed with RKB today.

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Posted: 10 years ago

I have not watched episode but can give Raman benefit of doubt that he is not wrong in fighting or arguing with Ishita.

But if he blames only Ishita for getting Adi/ Shagun home I disagree coz Raman is equally responsible for entertaining Shagun. Even if Ishita asked him to do it, he shud have rejected it.

As far as Shagun's presence in Bhalla house is concerned I blame both Raman n Ishita for not asking her to stay out/ somewhere else. One day after drunk episode is ok but they shud not entertain her forever.

Ur last paragraph I completely agree with.

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Arooj

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Posted: 10 years ago

Gan, I freaking love you! Your replies are awesome!

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paagalbandar

@paagalbandar

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: mnr123
I have not watched episode but can give Raman benefit of doubt that he is not wrong in fighting or arguing with Ishita.
But if he blames only Ishita for getting Adi/ Shagun home I disagree coz Raman is equally responsible for entertaining Shagun. Even if Ishita asked him to do it, he shud have rejected it.

As far as Shagun's presence in Bhalla house is concerned I blame both Raman n Ishita for not asking her to stay out/ somewhere else. One day after drunk episode is ok but they shud not entertain her forever.

Ur last paragraph I completely agree with.

thnx mnr...we all have our own way of looking at it, and its all good lol...but, yes i know, and i stand by what i said in my last paragraph...we do need more shows where us audience can relate to the characters rather than just a dimagi khichdi...no one is acting in this show like educated, well mannered, well behaved people...lol no one is showing any logic, or anything close to it hahah :D and i feel like majority of our shows are like that, and its time that CV's in India realize it...we want real stuff, something we can related to...you are representing the modern indian society, where does over the top mahanta come into that? where does husband shouting like a dog come into that? and where does ex living with current wife come into that? no one puts up with this in real life, and so we are unable to relate in anyways...As per the romance, its like they are having hormonal cycles lol...one moment they are all into each other, and the other minute they behave like " Who are you, do I know you" way lol...no consistency in characters at all...they turned a good script into kyonki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi show lol

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