Starting afresh - Arjun and his juvenile record

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Putting this post because these days juvenile crimes are being discussed a lot. Especially since Nirbhaya case where the brutal rapist got away with a linear sentence because he was a juvenile under the law.
Though cases like Nirbhaya makes us want to tighten the juvenile law based on the crime Everest did try to bring out the different aspect of juvenile crime through Arjun.
One of the key aspects of a juvenile is that they can be brainwashed. Most of them can be made to do things for food alone. The kids need not distinguish between good and bad as long as they get food to eat and a place to stay. They are gullible. And by the time they understand what all they have done they might end having juvenile record.
I guess Arjun's case is that. He might have been part of many gangs just because he wanted to be safe and needed food. Maybe at a later point of time he is with his current chachu who might have mentored him, guided him in the right path. If you see Arjun is egoist, flamboyant, proud etc.. but he is not bad. That is why he is haunted by what happened to his friend. That conscience prick is there in him. He does take that inhaler to Raman. But his generosity depends on the situation and he does have win at any cost attitude also.
But as a person Arjun wants to forget his juvenile crimes. He does not want to be a criminal anymore. But he wants to known as the best mountaineer. He wants to bury that crime and move ahead.
So what happens to such juveniles who wants to turn a new leaf and the past shares at them. If these juveniles are then judged using their past aren't we destroying their future also. Because for me Arjun can be transformed. His past can be buried in front of a bright future. Whatever small robberies he did as a child need not be put against him.
But will that happen. Will the juvenile's track record follow him/ her wherever they go. Should we judge them based on their past or their present achievement. What is your take and what you feel about it. Pour in your thoughts.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey dear superb post..!!
You are absolutely right.. If people are based on their past then they don't have the right to leave..
You are living in the present!! You are living for your future.!! So judge them on what they have achieved and what they are going to achieve..
Arjun being a big famous personality at times he behaves so down to earth person..!
He understands what it feels when people are humiliated he knows how if feels being away from your closed ones.. He understands the pain of all these things..!
He is a guy with heart...! He wasn't born criminal situations made him like that an it isn't that he killed someone or hit someone or anything like that. He just climbed up houses and went inside and opened the door.. He merely understood anything.. He was just there doing his work.. What ever he was asked to do he just followed it like anyone follows their master...
Now that he wants to move on from hi past lead a new life why do you want to drag him back from where he came.. Which took him years to come out of it..
No one would like to say about the past which they now regret...
So it's is who should understand their situations and no open the topic.. But it doesn't mean we sympathise him because of his past.. No one would like it.. Instead give them a chance to live their life and achieve things..!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Honestly, I dont think Arjun's criminal record should have any adverse effect on his career.
Important thing is not what he was or how he started but what he has now made himself into.

In fact I was not very fond of Arjun's character but after the disclosure of his past the character has got a new depth and meaning. Infact one can understand (I am not saying approve) his insensitive behaviour with his friend at the time of his death also.

And regarding his previous criminal acts, it is very easy to preach on a full stomach, living in a comfortable warm house. Hunger and need for security can drive a person to do just any and every crime in the world.

In fact Arjun should be appreciated for the way he has turned his life. I seriously dont understand what Rungta is upset about? He should be brandishing Arjun like a hero and role model instead of insulting him.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Exactly Runtga should have emphatized with him. Instead of shouting he should have understood why Arjun did what he did. Then if he had a patient talk with him on how hiding past can affect the mission, its branding etc etc.. Arjun might have been more forthcoming. he would have understood why his sponsor is worried about such things. Shouting didn't help anyone. Neither Rungta nor Arjun
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Your post is bang on in highlighting the core conflict every criminal justice system in the world faces, regardless of whether one is juvenile or an adult though of course, the law tends to be more lenient towards juveniles. It's all about viewpoints, & most importantly objectives - which I would say these criminal justice systems are yet to define. If the objective is to deter - then harsher rules, punishment & sentencing become a priority. But then, this will lead to a huge uproar of human rights etc. If the objective is to reform - then we need to focus more on the criminal's history & understand that many criminals have been victims as well. But this might potentially endanger society if these criminals were to let free.

Coming to your post, its a novel thought really & you're not wrong - these kids are brainwashed into doing things & they are not be blamed. They deserve a right to move on in life. Arjun deserves to be given a chance at life. If he is good at mountaineering & he is making an honest living out of it, why not? But here, we are only talking about one individual so things can be looked at simplistically. When we talk about thousands of criminals all over the world, things change. Its pretty much what Arjun mentioned to Anjali that day. Teamwork is important, it is nice to want to help your team, but when you are climbing the actual mountain, things change. Sometimes you have to move on no matter how much you want to help. Just the same way, we need to understand that these kids who are brainwashed will grow up to be adults one day & the cycle will continue. It has to stop somewhere. The law operates in such a way that someone has to be blamed. We can't just forgive because someone was too young or too naive, unless there are certain exceptional circumstances. I would say that rather than blaming the kid alone, the one who coerces kids into doing such things should be blamed too. Why should the kid bear the brunt of it all alone?

I think their criminal record needs to be reflected for various purposes. If one believes that criminals have a right to move on, then more than the criminal hiding his record, it is society's perception that should change. Isn't it? Just like what that old man told Arjun, he shouldn't hide. He should be proud of his growth - from a mere thug to a mountaineer now & he's earned it from his hard work. Answering your question, its not the reflection of the record that I have a problem with, it is society's perception. More specifically, their unwillingness to give these people a chance.

Sorry for the long rant. And my brain is starting to shut down so I hope I made some sense.
Edited by prc_fan1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant post..
Yes that's a intrigued sketch given by write which is unpredictable, stubborn and ruthless natured Arjun.. Yes this person is so hard, composed yet tender at heart sometimes.. Yes I agree he can be transformed into a better person though it's very hard to digest or face his past but this man can be transformed into a normal person.. I want Arjun to break his past coming out of the shell..That's looks easy for me to say.. The lonely walk, unsystematic way of path which had no beginning and endings, no positive stones on his way leading to do some huge blunders and darkness surrounded him.. I want society to give him a chance for people who just realizing his horrible paths unless it won't make a better human being a part of the world.. Every person had both shades soft and hard, good or bad but probably some of the circumstances makes us or pulled out to do some disasters in ongoing journey.. We can't predict ourselves saying that I won't do this or go for this.. To make it more broader and easier, people like Arjun just want to make it over or fighting against his past in relieving himself from darkness zone.. I can't deny that every person will have a agitated session when he /she supposed to face past infront of everyone or whole world.. Yet I would love to see arjun who accept his agony walk leaving into a fresh journey..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@prc nice points and I agree to you on thing. There is no point in hiding, it is better to accept the past for what it is and then move on.
As shown in yesterday's episode. Arjun was uncomfortable seeing his old friend. If you deny your past it will come in front of you in more ways than one. So it is better to accept
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post dear. Arjun was a part of the monkey gang, a bunch of theives whom Arjun would help enter homes by climbing on, we already get a hint of his talent here and how he learned to channel that in a good way with the help of his guruji.
Arjun has a clean heart, it can be seen as to how humble he is at heart for his guruji, or the friend he met yesterday, the way he looks upto Colonel but the only way he knows to close the hatchet on his juvenile crimes is by closing the lid on his past. He is not arrogant about how far he has come, he is well-grounded and it shows just by the way he keeps his orphanage pics in his wallet, doesn't change his name on gaining fame n success. He knows who he was and remembers it well.

The BEST aspect I find in Arjun's character is that he doesnt despise his past or hate it.

Also I believe the approach he has taken towards his past is commendable, moving out and beyond that tag of a thief and becoming one of the worlds best mountaineer is also taking life into his own hands and getting something positive out of it. So he has already turned a new leaf.

Part of the reason why his past crime still follows him is because of his own guilt. And it is because of this crime that he is missing out on his lovely childhood. The reason he is probably hiding his actual background. He misses his friends, and his place, but he cant walk upto it, because he is afraid everything will collapse, all that he has built over the years.

I find Arjun more in control of his emotions at all times, he is practical in his approach and that's what makes him a layered character. Coming to what we saw of him at NIM, Arjun doesn't come to the fore until he sees a major threat, he realized the danger Raman was in and told off the black horses, when Yohaan hurt his foot, he said the guy is not going to die, reach ur place, do what you have to do then come back for him. So he is what I would call, an experienced mountaineer and not someone who gets swayed by emotions, and I do agree with him when he says the perspective of right or wrong changes when at a height. I dont blame him for his decision with Sanbir, but it was a situation which leaves one cold and numb.


Lastly, I would just say, There is a reason as to why there are prisons, as to why people are punished. If the society doesn't believe in giving second chances, then there's no point of serving a punishment.


Edited by AnotherAdmirer - 11 years ago

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