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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Jalal set an example to his awam that how fair he is..👏when it comes to do insaaf, he doesnt even leave his son! it was definitely kabil-e-tareef..👏he was absolutely bang on throughout at DEA, both to Salim n Ruqaiyya (cherry on the cake😆).


having said that, Jalal should have at least spoke to Salim in this matter...woh hai Shehenshah par saath saath woh ek baap bhi hai..humesha sazaa dene se galti sudhar nahi jati..Salim is a timid boy..and this mistake was done unknowingly...totally a mishap..Salim has no fault here...so sending him to Qadir's house and making him stay there till Qadir recovers is something I am not liking...if he had kept him in house arrest and forbidden his meeting with Jodha, and provided royal treatment to Qadir whould have been the best judgement...iss tarha se Qadir ki Dadi bhi khush hoti aur Salim ko sazaa bhi mil jati.

what JJ needed to do was, speak to Salim, make him sit n understand what mistake he did and how to avoid doing such mistakes and how he supposed to behave without running away or lying agar kabhi aisa phir se ho toh..this punishment is like "galti ki-sazaa di-aur bhuul gaye" type!! isse Salim kuch seekhega nahi...Salim fears of Jalal too much..coz he only sees him as an angry emperor, not his Abbujaan who also loves him selflessly...Jalal must take the initiative to be friends with Salim, so that the latter can share any of his dil ki baat to him like he does to Jodha...walid se darr na zaroori hai esp. agar walid Shehenshah ho toh, lekin walid ke saath dosti bhi honi chahiye.

I liked Jodha yesterday...the tarazu scene was nice...her argument was very logical and she was behaving very rational.

I am not saying that Jalal is being too harsh to Salim...I know Salim will only come out as a mature boy after this..he will learn a great lesson from his...but my point is, this is too early to put him in such realistic training...he is very young...and if Jalal compares himself with Salim, then I would say Jalal was helpless to be trained at young age, it was never his choice! he lost his father at 11 and sit on throne at 13..he had Bairam Khan and MA to train him...his parents were running away from enemies to save their lives and Saltanat since Jalal was born...whereas Salim is born in a house where his father is an immensely successful emperor and has empires in every corner of Hindustaan, is the biggest threat to his enemies and has undying love and support of riyaya..toh Salim ko struggle karna zaroori nahi hai!! Salim will learn everything and will prove out to be a brave warrior, after all he is a son of two great warriors! all he needs is time and Jalal must give him the time..meanwhile the appointed people can train him and he n Jodha as parents must guide him...u cannot put Salim in experiments at every drop of hat and cannot teach him everything at a time, but one after one! har chiz ka ek waqt hota hai...yeh samajhna chahiye Jalal ko.

yes, Ruqaiyya looked very powerful yesterday..Salim heard the wrong bit from Jodha and immediately turned to his Badi Ammi..this is a hint that Salim will drift apart from his Ammijaan dheere dheere...Ruqu will take the advantage..or should I say already started?!

I enjoyed the "Ruqaiyya Begum ko kayd mein dalo" bit😆

Totally agree with you on your assessment of Jalal and the way he deals with Salim.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i feel prob is the script. look whtever jalal may had been before or now kids were never afraid of him. be it rahim as a kid, those lil girls in amer or even mahtab now. so whts the point of the CVs by showing salim is so afraid of him??? yes he can be more close to his mom, which is very obvious but not showing any father-son bonding doesnt make any sense. 2ndly, being soft hearted & too much timid is a different issue. its said tht his nature is like jodha then srry to say nothing matches, except saving the pigeon or those prisoners. for me he is neither like jodha nor like jalal. 2ndly, salim's punishment is not for hitting tht guy but for leaving tht boy injured. hitting the boy is not his fault, but leaving him there is definitely a fault especially if its shown tht salim is always concerned about others lives. if jodha was in his place, even in her childhood, she definitely would have tried to save tht boy. for me the punishment which is given is perfect bcoz then salim will realize where exactly he went wrong. i know salim is just 9, but in those days this age wasnt very small. yes we can argue tht jalal should have told salim in a more polite way, but at the same time i hope jodha also will tell salim wht exactly his fault is. right now none of them r actually telling wht exactly his mistake is, not even jodha.
Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: munnirony

i feel prob is the script. look whtever jalal may had been before or now kids were never afraid of him. be it rahim as a kid, those lil girls in amer or even mahtab now. so whts the point of the CVs by showing salim is so afraid of him??? yes he can be more close to his mom, which is very obvious but not showing any father-son bonding doesnt make any sense. 2ndly, being soft hearted & too much timid is a different issue. its said tht his nature is like jodha then srry to nothing matches, except saving the pigeon or those prisoners. for me he is neither like jodha nor like jalal. 2ndly, salim's punishment is not for hitting tht guy but for leaving tht boy injured. hitting the boy is not his fault, but leaving him there is definitely a fault especially if its shown tht salim is always concerned about others lives. if jodha was in his place, even in her childhood, she definitely would have tried to save tht boy. for me the punishment which is given is perfect bcoz then salim will realize where exactly he went wrong. i know salim is just 9, but in those days this age wasnt very small. yes we can argue tht jalal should have told salim in a more polite way, but at the same time i hope jodha also will tell salim wht exactly his fault is. right now none of them r actually telling wht exactly his mistake is, not even jodha.

Yes you have a good point here. Salim is definitely neither like his mother nor his Dada nor even somewhere in-between! And the type of bonding Jalal used to have with Rahim at least should have been there!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: tamy267

Jalal set an example to his awam that how fair he is..👏when it comes to do insaaf, he doesnt even leave his son! it was definitely kabil-e-tareef..👏he was absolutely bang on throughout at DEA, both to Salim n Ruqaiyya (cherry on the cake😆).


having said that, Jalal should have at least spoken to Salim in this matter...woh hai Shehenshah par saath saath woh ek baap bhi hai..humesha sazaa dene se galti sudhar nahi jati..Salim is a timid boy..and this mistake was done unknowingly...totally a mishap..Salim has no fault here...so sending him to Qadir's house and making him stay there till Qadir recovers is something I am not liking...if he had kept him in house arrest and forbidden his meeting with Jodha, and provided royal treatment to Qadir whould have been the best judgement...iss tarha se Qadir ki Dadi bhi khush hoti aur Salim ko sazaa bhi mil jati.

what JJ needed to do was, speak to Salim, make him sit n understand what mistake he did and how to avoid doing such mistakes and how he supposed to behave without running away or lying agar kabhi aisa phir se ho toh..this punishment is like "galti ki-sazaa di-aur bhuul gaye" type!! isse Salim kuch seekhega nahi...Salim fears of Jalal too much..coz he only sees him as an angry emperor, not his Abbujaan who also loves him selflessly...Jalal must take the initiative to be friends with Salim, so that the latter can share any of his dil ki baat to him like he does to Jodha...walid se darr na zaroori hai esp. agar walid Shehenshah ho toh, lekin walid ke saath dosti bhi honi chahiye.

I liked Jodha yesterday...the tarazu scene was nice...her argument was very logical and she was behaving very rational.

I am not saying that Jalal is being too harsh to Salim...I know Salim will only come out as a mature boy after this..he will learn a great lesson from his...but my point is, this is too early to put him in such realistic training...he is very young...and if Jalal compares himself with Salim, then I would say Jalal was helpless to be trained at young age, it was never his choice! he lost his father at 11 and sit on throne at 13..he had Bairam Khan and MA to train him...his parents were running away from enemies to save their lives and Saltanat since Jalal was born...whereas Salim is born in a house where his father is an immensely successful emperor and has empires in every corner of Hindustaan, is the biggest threat to his enemies and has undying love and support of riyaya..toh Salim ko struggle karna zaroori nahi hai!! Salim will learn everything and will prove out to be a brave warrior, after all he is a son of two great warriors! all he needs is time and Jalal must give him the time..meanwhile the appointed people can train him and he n Jodha as parents must guide him...u cannot put Salim in experiments at every drop of hat and cannot teach him everything at a time, but one after one! har chiz ka ek waqt hota hai...yeh samajhna chahiye Jalal ko.

yes, Ruqaiyya looked very powerful yesterday..Salim heard the wrong bit from Jodha and immediately turned to his Badi Ammi..this is a hint that Salim will drift apart from his Ammijaan dheere dheere...Ruqu will take the advantage..or should I say already started?!

I enjoyed the "Ruqaiyya Begum ko kayd mein dalo" bit😆


Tamy
the issue has gone public due to dadi's appeal in dea.
Jalal's decision will be quoted as an example in future.
If he doesn't give any publicly visible punishment then any other guy juvenile or child will beg to be excused for a fault by calling it an accident and quoting Salim's case.
Even if Qadir was treated in tge palace and Salim nazarbandh the public will call it an eyewash and demand house arrests for their faults too.

Of course Jalal can be blunt and a tryant and crush comparisons. That is easy. But it is very difficult to get the name of a just Emperor. The position of the king is never easy...nor is that of a crown prince. As long as Salim's safety is not compromised this is a good decision. The public wil be convinced that justice has been served and Salim will get a feel of his awaam.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45
Mansi nice take 👏👏

I think Ruqaiyya actually played a smart game and might win Salim's trust and even make Jalal think now in coming episodes though he made a wise decision for now ..

She just tricked everyone smartly here by throwing the arrow to prove that Salim did was an accident and not intentional just like hers was not intentional either .. and this made all think and Jalal might even free Salim in future and then Salim will say what my own mother could not do for me , Ruqaiyya did it ... In short Ruqaiyya will earn brownie points in the end

I mean she is not that naive to do what she did in DEK in front of all knowing the consequences well .. she even told to herself that this is my first step towards winning Salim's trust .. so she definitely has a plan here ...

I wont b surprised if in few days time both Ruqaiyya and Salim r freed with respect and everyone bows down to Ruqaiyya's intelligence 😆

Liked the fact that Jalal was not biased with his decision making .. true sign of a Shehenshah 👍đŸŧ .. Also liked how Jodha dint try to influence Jalal here in her son's defence .. again true sign of MUZ 👍đŸŧ
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi nice take 👏👏

I think Ruqaiyya actually played a smart game and might win Salim's trust and even make Jalal think now in coming episodes though he made a wise decision for now ..

She just tricked everyone smartly here by throwing the arrow to prove that Salim did was an accident and not intentional just like hers was not intentional either .. and this made all think and Jalal might even free Salim in future and then Salim will say what my own mother could not do for me , Ruqaiyya did it ... In short Ruqaiyya will earn brownie points in the end

I mean she is not that naive to do what she did in DEK in front of all knowing the consequences well .. she even told to herself that this is my first step towards winning Salim's trust .. so she definitely has a plan here ...

I wont b surprised if in few days time both Ruqaiyya and Salim r freed with respect and everyone bows down to Ruqaiyya's intelligence 😆

Liked the fact that Jalal was not biased with his decision making .. true sign of a Shehenshah 👍đŸŧ .. Also liked how Jodha dint try to influence Jalal here in her son's defence .. again true sign of MUZ 👍đŸŧ

Jyoti, I knew you would like this episode. Everybody in it did their role well and lots of good story points here!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
😲there you go ruka is successful in her plan. now salim will think jodha doesnt love him
and will start calling her as MUZ and ruka as mother . salim will change himself
forward jodha and will ingore her after coming back to place. oh god i hate this
but there is nothing we can do
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi...
I hope your family is healthy now

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