What does it matter that Sunheri doesn't know Sanam is her sister.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

First things first. I don't hate Seher/Sunheri. I am fine with her being the way she is. I don't buy into the hate for her character, nor do I buy the attempts which try to make her actions more white than they are. I don't get the expectation that she should behave a certain way just because she's "Asya's daughter" and the expectation that she shouldn't behave a certain way. I accept her as a grey character. Not an outright vamp and not an innocent, faultless character.

I am really only making this post to ask one question. So what if Seher doesn't know Sanam is her sister? I get that Sanam is emotional and from her place as the sister would of course ask this. But even if Sunheri were to be more lenient towards Sanam and not do this con if she had known it's her sister-- what difference does it make, really? How is it better that she would have no problems doing it to her humshakal but wouldnt do it to her sister?

We don't know what's going to happen with Sunheri once Sanam tells her of their relation. If Sunheri lashes out, I do feel like it makes sense for her character. And if she continues to act selfishly and in her own interest, it still makes sense for her character.

Frankly, if she stopped just because she knows Sanam is her sister, I don't really think it would make her a better person, imo. Just because of blood connection, she is not going to do something which she had no problem doing otherwise to a decent person.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 11 years ago

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trina2010

@trina2010

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Posted: 11 years ago

I don't hate her but personally I feel she is nothing but a vamp , a criminal . Yes I agree if Sunheri stops doing whatever she is doing after knowing that Sanam is in fact her sister , that won't make her a better person for me. She is replacing a woman , who happens to be her lookslike just for her greed. Yes greed. I don't believe when some people says she is needy and needs 2 cr for her livelihood.She is plain and simple too greedy and her greed transformed her from a small time thief to a big time criminal. She aided in the kidnapping of Sanam and also hid that information from everybody. Worse she is even staying with the kidnapped woman's family, living her life , getting hot and cold with another woman's husband and even seducing him when needed to get her way. Not to forget she is ready to marry another woman's husband while the other women is locked away somewhere. Does she have any idea whether her lookalike is being raped or harmed anyway? No she doesn't care as long as she is getting her money and comfort .
Are we supposed to sympatheize to such a person with the excuse of a bad childhood?
Is the law going to give her less punishment just because she had a rough past?
sister or not her crimes are not forgivable. Yes she will get away since Sanam is her sister but I hope she doesn't . She needs to get harsh punishment for the crime she committed before getting a chance of redemption .

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708922

Hibernated

Posted: 11 years ago

Make a valid point KK and agreed. Seher is a grey character, she is not white as snow nor is her character completely black.

It would not make sense for her to accept Sanam all of a sudden. And agreed with your last post on Sage's post. I have only watched bits and pieces of today's episode, but back to the comment that you made about it being weirdly played out with Sanam hugging Seher was...odd. It felt forced. I understand they are contrasting Sanam as the one who is forgiving, accepting, and strong and Seher as the wily, clever, and always puts herself first...BUT...it was still forced.

As per spoilers, if Seher chose to seek revenge because of wanting Rehan back makes much more sense than doing this for Sanam, her new found sister. And honestly it leaves for more buildup for her character's story arc with the Khan family after the twin revenge track is completed.

Hopefully from Thursday/Friday onwards, we finally get what has been hinted at since the end of Qubool Hai season 1. Revenge.

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 11 years ago

Not to be argumentative, but why then show Sunehri to have emotional partiality and fondness to the old tortured lady on the wheel chair and the quiet sister Haya?

But immediate resentment to Sanam who was the one who kept them as happy and healthy as they are?

I'm not condemning Sunehri. She's a tricky character that needs to find her way back, just like Aahil did once upon a time.

What I ask is for consistency in the character.

Obviously she's going to listen to Sanam's teary explanation halfway and only see herself as being in risk of trouble and police action via Aahil.

I'd believe it more if she clutches Aahil to herself as an attempt to save herself from discovery and being exposed in the presence of Rehan (who was already on the way somewhere)

Then later back at IM having the burden of guilt and besieged with vivid flashbacks turn to go help her twin sister.

What say?

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sukanya.

@Lovenarbhi

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Posted: 11 years ago

Exactly KK, actually why does it matter if it is her sister or be anyone else? You have raised a very solid and valid question. Even i never hated sehar for that matter. She was shown as a person having a tender heart. She is thug who loots only the rich a kind of Female robinhood. At that she was not even in love with Rehan But now only money money and more money.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sageflower7

Not to be argumentative, but why then show Sunehri to have emotional partiality and fondness to the old tortured lady on the wheel chair and the quiet sister Haya?

But immediate resentment to Sanam who was the one who kept them as happy and healthy as they are?

I'm not condemning Sunehri. She's a tricky character that needs to find her way back, just like Aahil did once upon a time.

What I ask is for consistency in the character.
Obviously she's going to listen to Sanam's teary explanation halfway and only see herself as being in risk of trouble and police action via Aahil.

I'd believe it more if she clutches Aahil to herself as an attempt to save herself from discovery and being exposed in the presence of Rehan (who was already on the way somewhere)

Then later back at IM having the burden of guilt and besieged with vivid flashbacks turn to go help her twin sister.

What say?

I will reply to everything and everyone more tomorrow. Too tired and just want to hit the bed. But I just wanted to answer two points.

1) I don't think Seher is as consistently sketched out as Aahil is/was. Reasons being that they try to thread a fine line with Seher which they never had to with Aahil.

2) Her 'connection' with Haya and Dilshad are before she knows she is related to them. (At this point, I would add even ruthless criminals have their own soft sides towards certain people, could be children, old women, etc etc). When she comes to know they are her blood, chances are she may resent them too.

3) (Oh, heh, it's three points. 😆) My main point is that if she did suddenly stop her con because of the fact that Sanam is her sister/blood, it wouldn't make her any better a person than her not stopping her con--at least in my eyes. Though she did say to Raziya yesterday she wants out due to her life being threatened again, she is still participating in the con and has yet to really end it. And even so, her reason for wanting to end it is because she just escaped death once again. Not due to any moral conscious attack.

So I don't think it makes her any better a person if she decided to not do it due to "blood ties."

Not saying her going ahead and lashing out makes her a better person, either. But the whole "expecting her to know what's right and wrong" and "do the right thing" how would her showing blood kinship make it so?

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708922

Hibernated

Posted: 11 years ago

Sage - another valid point! 😆

But I think that's the point with her character...again, you are right, there has to be consistency in her character. If she is not a black/white character then her reaction should not be as black/white. Still, I think they will show the contrast between the twins where Sanam is more accepting of her twin, while Seher will feel discomfort, at the very least. All the initial questions of why she was separated and why no one looked for her would come up once finding out that she does have a living family will be there in her mind waiting to be answered. I don't think it should become an immediate resentment, but some sort of discomfort/resentment would be natural

Agreed, It would make sense for her to run to Aahil in order to cover her identity from Rehan. I just hope the CVs plan to handle this twin relationship with as much care as they did with SaHil's love story.

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crazzyhero

@crazzyhero

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Posted: 11 years ago

I did'nt watch yesterdays episode so i cannot comment on the spoiler or the hug screen.

Seher is a victim of circumstances.

I firmly believe that your childhood, environment and the people that you live with moulds your personality as well as your value systems. The only time 2 peoples characters can be judged against each other will be if they lived and were brought up together.

Sanam definitely has strong morals and values compared to Seher . When Sanam sees Seher for the first time, she will be very emotional. That's her personality.

Seher obviously will react differently. She grew up on the street and had no identity. She became Sunehri. The people brought her up to be a con. That was her means of survival. The will be indifference on Seher's side. You don't expect her to have tears rolling down her face. She will think after 20 odd years someone comes and tells me I'm their sister. Why should that make a difference in my life.

Let's be realistic guys.

The only person who really loved her left her as well. Let's not forget she was going to reveal the truth to Rehan before he proposed.

Seher was always uncomfortable towards Ahil. She declined marrying Ahil at first and only agreed after Rehan said he will not forgive her.

I think it's a bit harsh to be so judgmental towards her.

That's my POV.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: trina2010
I don't hate her but personally I feel she is nothing but a vamp , a criminal . Yes I agree if Sunheri stops doing whatever she is doing after knowing that Sanam is in fact her sister , that won't make her a better person for me. She is replacing a woman , who happens to be her lookslike just for her greed. Yes greed. I don't believe when some people says she is needy and needs 2 cr for her livelihood.She is plain and simple too greedy and her greed transformed her from a small time thief to a big time criminal. She aided in the kidnapping of Sanam and also hid that information from everybody. Worse she is even staying with the kidnapped woman's family, living her life , getting hot and cold with another woman's husband and even seducing him when needed to get her way. Not to forget she is ready to marry another woman's husband while the other women is locked away somewhere. Does she have any idea whether her lookalike is being raped or harmed anyway? No she doesn't care as long as she is getting her money and comfort .
Are we supposed to sympatheize to such a person with the excuse of a bad childhood?
Is the law going to give her less punishment just because she had a rough past?
sister or not her crimes are not forgivable. Yes she will get away since Sanam is her sister but I hope she doesn't . She needs to get harsh punishment for the crime she committed before getting a chance of redemption .

Trina. The reason I distinguish her from a vamp is only because the show and creatives go about with her. I never watched QH1, but I don't know if Tanveer and Raziya were ever in a way where the audience is also expected to empathize with them?

I don't mind empathizing with negative characters or villains. Some of my favorite characters in Western and other shows are grey or negative characters who have good characterization, where you understand them even if they are wrong. But their actions have consequences and their actions aren't ignored and just forgotten. Even Aahil, even though they didn't deal with it with more depth and focus, Sanam told him off many times. She has thought bad of him, and her behavior with him for a long time was due to his own wrong actions.

Will we ever see this with Sunheri/Seher?

In a way, Sunheri to me reminds me of what I hate most about saas-bahu serials. Saas will do the most disgusting, vile things, but will never get comeuppance, nor are the family ever allowed to tell her off, simply because of who she is. I hate those saas characters though. I still don't hate Sunheri. Probably because she at least has the backstory and characterization of a conwoman and from where she's coming from it makes sense of why she's doing what she's doing.

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Zarmina

@falala333

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Posted: 11 years ago

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To tell the truth Seher is one of my fav characters.. But nowadays she's really lost it all.

And it truly doesn't matter whether she knows or not because then it doesn't show her true nature and what she actually feels about this all..

Right now she has NO idea at all about Sanam being her sister which shows us how she would normally act with anyone.. It shows us how she truly is.. How she acts when she isn't bounded by some huge guilt, how she deals with unknown people and all of that..

If she knew that Sanam is her sister she would never do that because she would then be surrounded by guilt over what she's doing.. She would feel like she is under pressure to not do anything wrong..

So all in all even if Seher is one of my fav characters i don't want to have to deal with her being under pressure to be nice and i don't exactly support what she's doing..

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