Victim of circumstances or mindset

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sakshi seems to be a victim in her early childhood. In course of time she turned into a perpetrator of atrocities on innocent people. Same was the argument of Nirbhaya's rapists who also lived a life of poverty and deprivation, the juvenile was victimised by his relatives. This treatment must have made them insensitive and they indulged in the rape and murder. Many human right activists want us to view those rapists with empathy than revenge.

Even Payal and Nitya were victims. But they did not become perpetrators, killing and torturing innocent people. Durga wants that victims should serve their term in jail for what they have done.

Poverty or riches does not generally make much difference as many rich people also indulge in sadistic activities. Shaurya is one such example. He has riches, loving parents and other indulgences. Yet he turned out a criminal while Dev did not. Karan is another example.It all boils down to mindset.

Sakshi loves her son and she is ready to murder, mutilate, torture anyone who tries to jail him. and Rajnath also wants to do the same if someone harms his business interests.

Suchitra also loves her son and she wants to fight the case properly and also pray to devimaa.
Durga is ready to indulge in deceit to achieve her ends. Dev does not hesitate to join a criminal like Mathur to get justice.

Each to his or her own.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely post dear and loved ur last line , "to each His or her own " 👏

Very aptly we blame ppl arnd n ESP the ones who speak or do wht they feel Lile doing n not Just to the rules of the society ...but we NEVER seem to observe or fail to see why n how the catalyst of the reaction has been to make the person who he /she is ...

Sakshi Goenka is an epic ...a negative character ALLRIGHT but she has her reasons ..n while I do feel she failed miserably in bringing up Shaurya , rajnath too , and all this fiasco wud have been avoided but then AGN come to thunk of it ...don't our teachers at school teach the swme thing to everyone in class but everybody takes it differently ..

Even kids of the same set of parents are diff ...So I guess all this was meant to hapoen ...Shaurya was meant to be bad n Durga was supposed to seek revenge
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A crime is a crime and let under whatever circumstance it happens punishment has to be there. But the quantum of punishment varies in each case, that's the point.
Sakshi due to her circumstances and faulty upbringing might have reached where she is. Maybe she believed it is all right to snatch things from others. When she got away snatching first time she indulged in it.
And each success made her bolder and she became ruthless. She has some qualities which if given the right direction would have benefitted society in a great deal. Unfortunately that was not meant to be.
I want her punishment to be something really hard. Not just death, but a realization that to attain power and status you need not kill or mutilate.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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everyone has a choice in my opinion..there are millions of people who live thru hell every single day..only some of them turn to crime..there are others who, despite having a secure environment and loving families show traces of evil..while i can sympathise with the child sakshi was, the choices she made as an adult are her own and she has to pay for them..same goes for rajnath..in fact, rajnath belongs to the eilte class, had all material comforts, and going by suchitra and dev's reminiscing of arnab, a very loving brother..what excuse does he have for being the rotten criminal tht he is?? shaurya is the worst kind of scum, yet kangana, though spoilt, is essentially innocent..all make choices and live with them..because u were a victim as a child does not give u the licence to victimise others as an adult..i dnt agree with that, no matter what human rights exponents say..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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When a tiger or lion becomes a maneater, it is usually put to sleep or shifted to some Zoo. Though the animal might have become maneater by accident. When a dog is infected with rabies, it is also put to sleep. The larger good of the society is taken into consideration in these situations. Similarly I feel rapists should not get lighter punishments just because they are minors. When the crime is monstrous, the punishment should be commensurate with the crime, not with the age. Age is an artifical barrier decided by some individuals. The minor age limit maybe 12, 14 or 16 or even 18.
IMO.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sakshi was orphan. Nirbhaya rapists did have families.
Sakshi had no guidance. And she grew up among shady people as she describes how she knew about gambling since childhood.

Mindset is definitely one thing. But circumstances cannot be ignored.

In most stories a lone female mostly is shown aggressive, threatening and even deviant for survival. That Amma ji in Laado serial was also gun toting lady don. She couldn't have reached her position or kept safe as a lone woman with kids unless she was aggressive.
It's a defense mechanism. Otherwise girls alone on streets suffer unimaginable abuse and even lifetime slavery. Unless they luckily come in contact with NGOs or good samaritans who educate them and keep them safe.

I will not compare Sakshi to Nirbhaya rapists because they raped for pleasure. Sakshi in this show never kills or abuses just for pleasure. It is always to protect self or others. I am not saying it is right. But she is not like Shaurya who maims for pleasure.

Nitya suffered but bluntly she is also using illegal means only. But yes she does not kill and still has conscience because she had guidance of family till she grew up and still has guidance in form of Dayal who keeps her in check.

Sakshi had nothing. The shady circle she grew up in, she took to their jungle ways. She entered a family deliberately by blackmailing Raj. And Raj is not family for real. They are family on paper.

Considering he too hates her and somehow wants to get rid of her, get those tapes etc so Sakshi has to be suspicious at home too.
I can understand why Sakshi is the way she is. But I do not justify her nor do I think she should be spared. She deserves punishment. And her life in many ways has a punishment only which she will realise one day given how she has nothing.

BTW why do you single out only Sakshi? What about Rajnath Goenka who kills, threatens at drop of a hat? He did not even have such bad circumstances! Why is he given sympathy?
What were conditions of Raima ji who has happily partnered in every crime? And even dropped ideas in minds of Goenkas? Who first got married to Jatin and then kept bashing and blackmailing him through Goenkas?

Others are worse because they do not even have lack of family, poverty etc as an explanation for their deeds. They were well off yet still criminal in their tendencies. They cannot be compared to a girl who grew up alone on streets and was so deprived that she had to steal from a dog.

Sakshi lived among criminals and animals, developed animal survival tendencies and will die like an animal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Because Sakshi is being depicted as the planner and executor of all deeds most of the time. They are givng her screenspace over Rajnath. And Raima comes occasionally. They have not shown Raima story properly. We know her as social butterfly, love for luxurious life and in love with Rajnath.
And the actress is living the role of Sakshi. It is a tribute to her acting skills that she is the most discussed and analysed one.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh?
So you did not watch episodes of Rajnath babu bribing, threatening, intimidating people? And never seen him kill?

Or are both of us watching a different show?

It is Rajnath who kept Dev away to US.

He sent goons after Nitya.

He encouraged Shaurya to bed women and even shared tips with him In initial episodes. He rather scolded Sakshi when she scolded Shaurya for betting on women. He asked her to let Shaurya be and complete his bet!

He is behind Arnab's death. He killed lawyer. He blackmailed rival Choudhary by taking pics of him with his gay partner. He supported Ganguly the guy who abused college girls. He gave him favours for defending Shaurya.

His resume is no less impressive.

Raima played double games. She would put suspicion against Durga in Sakshi's mind and then agree with Rajnath that Sakshi's brain worked overtime. We do know how she used Sakshi and Rajnath against husband Jatin. Unless one blinked through those episodes!

She knew Karan was a wrong guy. But she feigned concern to drive wedge between Kangana and Sakshi and asked her to talk to her dad. She was happy when Rajnath plotted against own son Shaurya and blackmailed him through a call girl.
She piggybacks on all Goenkas and does aag mein ghee job.

But I guess only Sakshi's deeds register in mind and not the glorious deeds of other characters.

It is fault of this show to ignore main issue, and make it catfight between 2 women, diverting attention from real culprit Shaurya to his mom!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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IMO, Sakshi will always be the biggest villain inspite of any excuses offered in her defence. Her crimes wont get any discounts because others also had their own share of crimes. Two wrongs cannot make one right.

Yes, Rajnath and Raima are also equal villains. And so is Shaurya. Why Shaurya turned into such a scum? Did the mother try to discipline him from the beginning or mollycoddled him endlessly thereby making him a spoilt brat? Yes, mothers have a greater role in shaping their children's lives as men are hopeless in this respect. IMO.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I feel bad for child Shakshi but she killed rehmat khan for money and what about Divya and bagchi baba? they r poor too na?😕 Raj - Shakshi give millions rupees to save evil son and shakshi's master strock rape case to offer payal ijjat and wedding why she don't convince Payal and her parents if she convince them then Nitya have no choice but to keep mum..why she don't give those money to payal? why she want to kill Divya and her father? she can kidnap them and shut there mouth too😕 but after getting power she didn't stop she is still kill people and if this is the reason we think she is less then we can forgive terrorist too because they did for money...not something wrong is wrong and there punishment also strong so next time people will thinks 100 time before act like this.

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