Originally posted by: lovely_lady
Agreed! I've been hearing and seeing so many anti-Mani posts that I've stopped commenting.
Personally, I don't really mind Mani and Ishita's friendship. Like you, I think its perfectly normal to have a very close friend of the opposite sex.
What irks me, is the fact that everyone says Ishita is in the wrong for including Mani in her problems, for talking to him all the time, for hanging out with him all the time, etc. That's what best friends do! Frick if Mani was a girl, I bet you no one would have such a big problem. In fact, Mani and Ishita's relationship can also technically be compared to Raman and Mihir. Fact is, Mihir is technically not Raman's relative or brother. He was Shagun's brother and when Shagun divorced Raman, he technically wasn't related to Mihir anymore. But Raman thinks of him as a brother and best friend. Mihir and Raman are ALWAYS together in whatever they do. They work together, Raman asks Mihir for advice and always talks to him as well. But no one has a problem because they're "related/ brothers." But when it comes to Mani and Ishita, people have a huge problem.
Also, Ishita doesn't necessarily overshare with Mani. Most of the times when she's complaining about Raman being ravan kumar, she's doing it in jest! If she was serious, do you not think Mani would have a problem with Raman and counsel her or something? In fact, Mani thinks so highly of Raman, to the point where he recommends him as a Director, because of how much Ishita praises him. The bad impression of Raman that's beginning to form in Mani, is from Raman himself with his shitty attitude!
Also, she's always joking around when she's comparing both of them as well (although her comparisons do have a point and I think are necessary to the story in order to get Raman to change his behaviour toward her but I digress). And in regards to the Sarika thing, I doubt she was going to even mention it to Mani. Mani found out on his own and confronted her about it! And THAT'S when she began including him in the discussion.
Personally, I think Ishita has stayed within her bounds as a married woman for the most part. The only times she has strayed (and even that is suspect) is recently when she's been lying to Raman about her whereabouts. But even then, she's just trying to help him.
So I for one enjoy this friendship where both parties (as of now) are just friends despite being of opposite sexes.
Just because Raman was a geek and was not able to have many girl friends in college, does not mean that Ishita would not have any guy friends either.
You have kind of NAILED it!
If Mani would have been a girl, it wouldnt have been a problem. But since its YHM and RKB we are talking about, I think it might still have left a distate in Raman's mouth. He isnt the sort to accept third party interferences that readily.
Taking the Raman-Mihir situation in the opposite way, let's say it was Raman-Madhuri or Raman-Megha (watever). Do you Ishita wouldnt have minded if Raman had been stuck like glue to his so-called female bestie-cum-colleague? Would Ishita have minded had Raman been singing praises in the name of his female bestie? YES! Who wouldnt? Hey, I dont want to negate your opinion of "best friendship"but put yourself in her shoes, and think you're married..would you still let things be that way? Hang out, call, talk, message, make secret plans with your male/female bestie just as much? Maybe you would..But can you predict your spouse's reaction and monitor/control it? Can you say he/she shouldnt mind? I doubt. What we think is perfectly innocent and right, may not be so in the eyes of our partner. Which is why there is a concept of boundaries, so that such issues never crop up in future.
It is really difficult to be that person who is being lied to and neglected.
We have no evidence of the fact that Raman was a geek who didnt have a way with girls! How do you account for his marriage with Shagun, then? She must have liked him for the person he is (more so, coz he wasnt even Raavan Kumar then) and married him. But she was like a "khota sikka"and decided to betray her husband and leave the marriage. That doesnt make Raman a man who no woman would like. If that were the case, ISHITA herself wouldnt have started developing feelings for him.
In fact, the way he is now...he is way sexier than Mani!
Ishita DOES overshare with Mani (if that's a word). It is plain insulting to talk ill of your husband to your best friend (more so, if its a guy). We women think its a trivial thing, for men it isnt. It can give off the wrong impression that our hubby isnt gud enuff for us. To top it, we praise his nemesis (the male bestie) to such unimaginable levels that actually irrirates and demeans our spouse. I would say the same goes for men as well. Talking to a female bestie and comparing your wife to her. In extremely poor taste.
As for Mani recommending Raman's name for Asia Business Head, I dont know how it escaped viewers'notice, but soo many things he does, are to help Ishita. If Raman becomes the Asian head, it becomes Ishu's happiness. He personally doesnt like Raman and secretly even thinks Raman doesnt deserve her. But since he really is fond of Ishita and probably even has feelings for her, her happiness matters and he would do anything for her. That's the reason you dont see him in the office doing his work, coz he is so busy doing things for Ishita.
Well, CVs have made sure HE find out about the Sarika thing so that he can be included in the whole plan. That I agree with. But then what exactly are they trying to show? And why this overboard show of ffection saying she loves him, and he asking her to leave Raman and get married to him??? Utter callousness, if that's the way they talk. Raman in his place, is justified to misunderstand it. Because that's the only thing he CAN understand. Anybody would. If some people say, they were doing it playfully and they didnt know Raman would see the same and misunderstand it, then its even MORE wrong.
Why would you talk like that to your male best friend when nobody's in the house, thinking you can say whatever, be however, coz your spouse isnt there? Raises so many uncomfortable questions. It isnt right.