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Hi
I am mostly a silent member on this forum actually pretty silent on IF at the moment but this track has forced me to make a post

How can ishita be jealous of Sanjana and Shagun but not understand Raman's insecurity about Mani? We'll cause there is a difference!

It might make no sense but if my boyfriend told me to speaking to my ex... Hands down I would do it, if my boyfriend told me to stop talking to my best friend (who is a guy) he has another thing coming...

Shagun and Sanjana in Ishita's mind Raman loved and was in a relationship with them... Yet she accepted them in his life... Shagun the choice was a bit less but with Sanjana it raises questions as to why did he leave her? Does he still love her? Etc... And if you aren't told, about that person you have doubts and jealousy... They know a part of Raman ishita doesn't -his love in her mind... She has heard so many taunts from Shagun about how much Raman loved her and she has taken in her stride no questions asked and never asked Raman for that love because she respects his past and understands his pain... She has also had her heart broken and that person happily moved on and is living the life she dreamed off with him...
Raman can be jealous of Shubu and he has been, he has every right to be because Ishita was in love with him no matter of how much of a jerk he was... And he can tell Ishita to stop speaking to him not that Shubu or Ishita talk but Ishita has the rights to do the same thing to Raman and tell him not to Tslk to Shagun she won't but she sure as hell can tell him that

But with Mani (yes Raman is allowed to be insecure and jealous) but he also has to deal with it and tell Ishita about it cause she isn't a mind reader... To her Raman is being as rude as ever he is always like this anyway...As for her friendship with Mani and the promo... Hugging your best friend who is a guy and saying ILU I would do it... Because I do love my best friend, I confined in him and he knows all my secrets, my craziness and he is the one person I trust to give me advice about guys... When some idiot breaks my heart he is probably the one person I message but that is because we are both secure in our lives and know that if this was meant to go beyond friendship it would have done a very long time ago and yes the other side of the relationship and my partner will have that insecurity but like Ishita I would tell my partner he is just a friend and I can't force someone to believe something they don't want to... If someone tells you their problem you can help them...

The line is fine but the difference is huge... And with the second one your friend can help because he or she can make an effort to remove the insecurity... Mani wanted to meet Raman yes there were instances where he went treat my friend better but I would do the same for my friend and when I meet his girlfriend I always make the effort and when something is not right I want my friend to tell me and he trusts me to tell him...

Just my thoughts but if Raman had a best friend and she was female... I don't think Ishita would be reacting in the same way and despite Raman's past he owes it to Ishita to be honest with her, ishita can be more sensitive but everyone has a limit and if Raman is putting up a wall in front of him she can spend breaking it down but it is more likely she will spend time banging her head against it... She is just as vulnerable to heartbreak as Raman so why is she expected to put her out there to have is crushed time and time again, Raman is also guilty of that... He has used her to make Shagun jealous... Ishita went a long with it, he lied to her Ishita never asked him why? He stood against her for his ex wife... She protected him... They have both been there for each other's family and yes Raman has done things for Ishita on his own accord but Ishita's best friend is a guy is that too much for him to accept? Yes Ishita doesn't stop praising Mani but you will always tell someone his good qualities before you tell them what winds you up about that person... And her family will know Mani he is her friend they would have spent time with him... Raman needs some logic and Ishita till now expect for keeping this Romi issue to herself hasn't actually done anything wrong in my eyes...

Wow long post... Had to get it out of my head

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Posted: 11 years ago
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For once...someone agrees with me...my thoughts exactly...Raman has been extremely rude to ishita, used her to make Shagun jealous...I can totally relate to her...if your husband acts liks an a## at every given opportunity no matter how much you try and take it in your stride..the human in you will long for some compassion. ..and one tends to lean where one gets it...
its not just Raman even Ishita has suffered a heart break...its a beautiful example of how two people who have been hurt deal with circumstances. ..

Neither Raman is wrong nor Ishita...for me...the show is progressing well...loving the roller coaster ride of emotions...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post
But I am scared of what is coming ahead u mean how will ramam react seeing them hugging and her saying ILu to mani? Cuz not it's clear its not his dream but will get to see actual scene 😕
Will we get seperation or divorce and Shagun back to Romans life with adi? I don't want this
Even if we don't get see them confessing I don't want their seperation or anything
Hope this track is not overly stretched
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The problem is not that Ishita's "bestest bestest friend ever!" (btw, only a teenager would refer to their friend in this manner, not a grown man or woman) is a man...the problem is that she appears to be spending every waking hour either with him or speaking to him or speaking of him! This would be irritating even if Mani was a girl. NO grown man or woman, especially one who is married and with kids, would spend this amount of time with a friend (in person or on the phone). That is what is irritating, to me at least. .
The other thing that bothers me is that while Ishita appears to consider Mani only as a friend, she has on many occasions compared Raman with Mani. In my books, if you consider someone just as a friend, I don't think you would sit down and compare them with your significant other. Imagine Mani was a girl, could you imagine Ishita comparing Mani, her girlfriend, with Raman? No! So Mani's gender in this case does matter because Ishita herself has taken him out of the "friend only" category by comparing the two in her mind.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Apparently

The problem is not that Ishita's "bestest bestest friend ever!" (btw, only a teenager would refer to their friend in this manner, not a grown man or woman) is a man...the problem is that she appears to be spending every waking hour either with him or speaking to him or speaking of him! This would be irritating even if Mani was a girl. NO grown man or woman, especially one who is married and with kids, would spend this amount of time with a friend (in person or on the phone). That is what is irritating, to me at least. .

The other thing that bothers me is that while Ishita appears to consider Mani only as a friend, she has on many occasions compared Raman with Mani. In my books, if you consider someone just as a friend, I don't think you would sit down and compare them with your significant other. Imagine Mani was a girl, could you imagine Ishita comparing Mani, her girlfriend, with Raman? No! So Mani's gender in this case does matter because Ishita herself has taken him out of the "friend only" category by comparing the two in her mind.


Well said!!

Raman is supposed to be the "evil" one, why should Ishita mimic him? And use Mani to make Raman jealous?
Isnt she the more mahaan, noble one?
Why should SHE employ such tactics
Whose brother is Romi? Ishita's or Raman's?
Why does she care so much about Romi to hide it from Raman?
Shouldnt she be working on "falling in love?"😉

I speak strictly for INDIAN ARRANGED marriages, what Ishita has done wont sit well with any husband.. May be all the women need to abandon their husbands from this point on... "Men are abusive, men are pathetic, men exploit women. men are heartless" whatever
Until India legalizes gay marriages, women dont have a choice...


Nikita,
We can extend your question beyond "friendship" and ask "Why do husband and wives even need to be FAITHFUL to each other?' Why do we need an institution of marriage?Lets open it up...
Why not have open marriages?
Afterall the third person is a friend, BESTEST FRIEND?
Maybe India is "backward" and will forever remain so etc...according to some...
I look at it in a positive way... sorry.
I live in a "ultra modern" country... the things which we "hope" India to acquires dont seem that attractive frankly, up close and personal🤢 Its a sad and lonely existence for many here
Indian women have million more freedoms than women in some countries around the world...AND they have the safeguards of the arranged marriage system, a tight network of parents, siblings and extended family... thats priceless
Just like everything, a freedom comes with responsibility...



Unfortunately,
Some things just wont fly in India like the husband being peachy about the male best friend. Nope!! I am HAPPY it wont... and am fully on Raman's side he is completely justified.

People have the choice to emigrate to places that offer them "freedoms" in every sense😉... I dont think TV should be reforming or influencing thought... I watch it purely for entertainment...


I am glad its an INDIAN show Nikita... and shows everything in a stereotypical way👏
There are plenty of other avenues to watch "progressive, modern, feminist meaningful " entertainment. Kim Kardashian's life; Sister Wives; Real Housewives of Atlanta, Bev Hills, NYC" etc etc etc... and what not...

Star and Ekta have signed up to show us gharelu "crap" (according to some)... I have signed up to watch EXACTLY that. I know what I am getting. They make these shows for people like ME, so I bet they will run for 15 or 20 years...
This is dandy just the way it is...even if it makes me "backward uneducated pathetic & abused"😳



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolgal49

For once...someone agrees with me...my thoughts exactly...Raman has been extremely rude to ishita, used her to make Shagun jealous...I can totally relate to her...if your husband acts liks an a## at every given opportunity no matter how much you try and take it in your stride..the human in you will long for some compassion. ..and one tends to lean where one gets it...

its not just Raman even Ishita has suffered a heart break...its a beautiful example of how two people who have been hurt deal with circumstances. ..

Neither Raman is wrong nor Ishita...for me...the show is progressing well...loving the roller coaster ride of emotions...


They aren't wrong they have their own demons but also with Ishita it's a transition cause before she has never had to explain her friendship to anyone... Her family has always known him, Subhu knew him and the time spent with him was a natural thing... And the happiness she feels with Mani or the way she is when she talks about him I totally understand cause I am the same words can't describe a person you are so close to its like dad is just dad you have an overwhelming love for that person so Mani is just Mani for her... Like he gifted her a book and she went it's just so Mani... It's the same concept when your dad does something for you whether it's the fact he stays awake till midnight to make sure you get home or when he sits there and talks to you about TV it's just dad there are no words to describe that person...

And to be honest she is the same when she is talking about Raman to Mani... He is Raman her Ravaan Kumar and you can't describe the small things... Even yesterday she was so overwhelmed he fasted for her she had no words but she was so touched... And she would never be able to put those into words if she had to explain it expect saying it was really sweet but what she felt at that time it would be that was so Raman cause you associate that feeling with that person
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Do comment can't wait to hear your thoughts
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Reserved. Be back before bed to update.


Long sleep 😆... If you get a chance do reply
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel13

nice post
But I am scared of what is coming ahead u mean how will ramam react seeing them hugging and her saying ILu to mani? Cuz not it's clear its not his dream but will get to see actual scene 😕
Will we get seperation or divorce and Shagun back to Romans life with adi? I don't want this
Even if we don't get see them confessing I don't want their seperation or anything
Hope this track is not overly stretched


thank you!

I know there is a lot of what ifs but in my head the sooner Raman over comes his past the better it is for IshRa in the long run... Had this happened after confessions or whatever the damage would be a lot worse... Here Raman has a choice to let Ishita go it might not make sense but he could tell her if you love him don't let me stop you... I know this marriage was for Ruhi and I can never separate you but you don't have to be my wife for that... Either way he would heal...

Cause he has learnt to move on and even if his heart is broken again... I mean no one wants that to happen but that doesn't mean he goes running back to Shagun... A lot of Ektas shows show a second chance love story... Here this story is about a second chance at life and love... That is a bigger point in its self... It doesn't mean you have to get that second chance but it means to show you have learnt from your past...

The drama will continue but in all this mess and through all the heart break Ishita is really going to see Raman a side he has hidden from the world even his family... Toshi has seen it but she knows her son will never let anyone else in and this needs to happen he needs to let his defences down because he is still protecting himself and there is nothing wrong with that

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