An Analysis on Nira-Ranvi situation

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zainabawoon

@zainabawoon

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

ok guys i'm back with an analysis post after sometime and gear up with some popcorns cuz this one is going to be long,dont tell me i didnt warn you Ps : tomatoes and chappals are welcome but spare me at least untill you read the full thing lol 😛😆
Ranvi's POV analysis: Ranvi's behavior towards Nira is realistic,not many children are fine with their parents remarrying and that too at raten's age and besides he has grown up in a pind environment where such practices are nothing but rare and probably considered a taboo.Had she married nihaal when she was young and had small children to rear its understandable but when her son is 27 and the man of the house and she wants to marry now,Ranvi is bound to feel that he is incapable of providing for his family,take care of his beeji and keep her happy,a sense of insecurity is bound to rise and to top it its not easy for some children to accept another person as their mother/father, no matter how terrible his own parent is and give them that status,
the only thing annoying me is that he is against VeeBa and nira at the same time,it really becomes too much to bear 😵.i wish they had spent more time in devoloping the nira story and ranvi would've got to know / picked up the hints and opposed them after the VeeBa story had progressed a little further but jo hua so hua
NiRa: what these children who has a similar views and issues like ranvi in regards to their single mother/father remarrying dont understand is that as humans we all seek after companionship and when we are young we often dont feel this too much cuz our minds and time is preoccupied with our job,paying bills,managing household and taking care of kids but when we grow older,retire and our kids are married and settled off we begin to feel that loneliness and no matter how much our kids love and care for us they will not be able to give us that companionship we desire atleast not to the extent we want cuz they themselves get busy with their work commitments, raising their own families and taking care of things.nobody can be blamed for this,its how life is.so at this point of time they are in more need of a life companion than anything else,not necessarily for sexual needs but for companionship sharing their thoughts,happiness and sadness,for help and mental/emotional support through good times,bad bad times and times of sickness as they age
now i only wish that the cvs will handle this track /Nira's story and track well with maturity and cleverness cuz they have got a replica of a real life situation / social issue at hand
for those who bothered to read this to the very end thank u so much 🤗 and am sorry for boring u ppl 😒

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overactor

@overactor

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Posted: 10 years ago

Actually its not the issue that he doesn't want ratan to get married ,his problem is that he can't digest the fact that there are other men that are dear to veera and ratan as much as he is😵 he has been the only male of the house so he is jealous of nihal and especially baldev bcoz he thought veerakhdi cannot love some1 equal to him and can never go against him .

further he thinks he is "ghar ka mard" so he has all the rights to take decisions for others. And he thinks only he can take care of the ladies of his house.

He is stupidly possessive and wants always to be pampered by the 4 devis of his house. He can't see that 2 ladies have found other men to care and love and who can love them back and protect them better than he himself can.

He is sick and i can't tolerate him🤢

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feck

@feck

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

Nice post Ziana. I agree with your view. The part you have written in blue seems more correct to me than the part in Red. See, who raised the issue of Ratan's remarriage? Chaiji and what was her point of view? almost similar to what you have written in Blue. She made it very clear to Ratan why she want's her to get married. I know you remember very well even at young age chaiji had spotted love between NiRa and wanted to get them married, but them Sampooran's death cause was revealed and Nihal had to leave. Earlier whenever any friend had started a discussion about NiRa marriage I have always said no, because of their age and their social stature. I am still not very happy with NiRa marriage, I wanted them to have a life long friendship and be the guardian for the family, but the point here is if someone of Chaiji's age and education can accept this and see the real reasons and need for it then why not Ranvee? Can any body tell me what has been his contribution to his family? IMO nothing at all. Ratan faced all the hardship in life and brought him up. For his happiness she was even ready to lose the house when Veera wanted to go to UK. The house where she was welcomed as a bahu, where she spend her life with her husband and her kids were brought up playing on the yards of that house. Can anybody imagine the value of that house to her? Yet she was ready only for the sake of her son's happiness. Then why will Ranvee not understand this? To be honest Veera is not doing anything out of this world. In real life there are kids like those and if you talk about shows the in YRKKH Naitik and Akshara got Rajbanna married again because the doctor told that he was almost dying due to lonelyness and the situation was exactly like what you have mentioned or what Chaiji and Verra cam foresee. I have never been able to understand the Anoki Maa concept because Ranvee used to feed Veera alright but who used earn them? It was Ratan. Now can anyone tell me which was more difficult, to earn the food or to feed it to a baby? People had always blamed Ratan not not accepting Veera in her childhood, but I would like to ask all married ladies in this forum who could have accepted Veera whole heartedly? I know in that Veera had no fault and may be that's why Ratan might be regretting the fact that she didn't accepted her in her childhood after watching what Ranvee is doing to her and she might even revolt against him.

Yes you may say they have timed this track wrongly. They might have started it after VeeBa marriage, but again the situation would have been the same. He is claiming that he can take care of his Beeji where as in reality he will only do OH Rabba sessions with Gunjan. Despite being married he is not understanding why husband and wife are called "JivanSaathi". This is such a gap which can not be filled by anyone else. Sorry to disagree with you in one point only Ranvee is not Man at all and being the man of the family is way beyond his limits. Because both Ratan and Chaiji has given him the final authority to take dicision on Verra's maariage, he his thinking he has become God himself and no one can take care of his mother or sister better than him or the person he thinks can take care of them.

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Vibha Bangalore

@..IshqShava..

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Posted: 10 years ago

Great analysis👍🏼
firstly i don't agree that Ranvi's behavior is realistic towards Nira..i mean it would've looked real if it was anyone else but not Ranvi because he is simply a hypocrite🥱 he can forgive a wife who was ready to sleep with another man before marriage and was ready to elope with the same man after marriage...he is also okay with G's barely there dresses but not modern enough to realize that his mother is human too..if Ranvi had raised objections at G's careless attitude towards clothing and hadn't forgiven her so easily(for her past deeds i mean), then I'd have agreed that his reaction to Nira's relationship is natural..one shouldn't put mud in one eye and butter in other(its an old proverb i heard somewhere)

your second point is completely correct...they are humans after all..what's wrong in finding a companion for oneself, especially when one's responsibilities and all are almost over..

and last point, i really hope that new writers have the capability to handle this issue well..😳

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Kehkelungi

@Poohjabear

Stunner

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Posted: 10 years ago

Nice post. 😳

But i agree with Sonu and Ishqshava here. The timing of this track is wrong i guess. ( Or maybe it isnt if they used it as another opportunity for Ranvi to hate Baldev. 🤔 )

But as a viewer i will start hating Ranvi more now because he is against VeeBa (just because he is blinded by hate) and also against NiRa. Viewers will connect both the things and start seeing him as someone who is against the concept love. I dont think they intended to show this but this is what is coming across sadly.

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Sheetal Sonuley

@SurAditAnjali

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

Great post zainab!i totally agree with u except one point. Yes ranvi's Pov. Well,yes nira track is misplaced. They should've shown them after veeba hurdles had been over. Bcoz i think the social issue behind nira is really really very connecting and strong. Your 1st point : Ranvi-i think in this you got wrong.When ranvi was a kid,that time he straightforward asked him to leave the pind,when he came to knw that he was the 1 responsible for his father's death.Ok!it is understandable.But now at this age,when he's standing on his own feet,he himself is married nw.He shud think yaar. If i say ratan is not that old fine,i agree with chaiji said that ranvi ko kabhi na kabhi to mumbai jana he hai-agree!veera bhi vyaah karke apne ghar chali jayengi-agree!mein rabji ki chitti anne ka intezaar kar rahi hu,kab wo aye aur kab mein chal du-totally agree. Jab chaiji keh rahi hai,to ye pagal ranvi to sheher hokar aya hai,sirf ye bat samajh me ayi use ki padhe likhe log achhe,sachhe hote hai,ye nahi samjha ki widow ki remarriage bhi hoti hai!disguisting yaar! Ranvi kehta hai-mein meri beeji aur veera ka khayal bahut achhe tarike se rakh sakta hu- Aur i m not that mature enough,but from my surrounding experiences-koi bhi ladka chahe wo kitna he achha kyun na ho,kitna bhi maa uspar aankh moondkar bharosa kare,wo maa auro k samne apne bete ki tarif karti rehti hai,lekin jab us maa ka bharosa tutata hai na,to wo apneap ko kitna akela,besahara mehsus karti hai na,wo meine dekha hai. Imandar,achha,kabhi apni maa ke charno ki sewa karne wala insaan,kaise apni maa ko chod jata hai aur uski takleef ko sehte huye meine ek maa ko dekha hai. Veera is damn correct. Yes i m orphan,my mother's parents made me this person in my life today. They've given me all happiness,and i want to pay it back. So jo veera kar rahi hai,karti aayi hai wo sab sahi hai,she's damn right na yaar. Ratan apni zindagi me akeli hai,aur jab unhe sath dene k liye,unki khushiyaan,unka dard batane wastey koi aagey ata hai,wo bhi khushi se to fir kyu na koi beti apni maa ko aisi khushi de. Kya galat kar diya usne.? Ranvi,as i mentioned all reasons,mujhe iss bete par bilkul bhi bharosa nahi ki wo aagey apni maa k liye imandar rahega!mujhe bilkul bhi trust nahi hai uspar. Achhe se achha beta bhi swarthi ho jata hai,i m srry jo sach tha wo keh diya. I just want ki nira track,iss show ka one of d best track ubhar kar aye. Thats it. Jisko agree karna hai karo na karna mat karo.!

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overactor

@overactor

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 10 years ago

Ranvijay Singh pyar ka dushman haye haye🤬

Enough said

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IntrovertedDame

@IntrovertedDame

Sparkler

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Posted: 10 years ago

Awesome analysis, Zainab! Agreed with every word of yours.⭐️

You have tried to provide a balanced perspective, providing an apt summation of both sides of the coin.

Sadly, we viewers can never identify with Ranvi, because he is being such a hypocrite. This was the man who defied the wishes of his sister, mother and elderly grandmother to marry a woman who was completely unsuitable for him.

But when he tries to impose his wishes on them for doing the same thing, i.e. following their hearts, it looks very odd. Honestly, at this point, it looks as if Ranvi wants to be the only man in the lives of his mother and sister. His attachment seems unhealthy. Perhaps I am going off on a different tangent altogether, but it is almost as if the writers are using Ranvi to delineate an Oedipal complex (with his mother) and also supporting the theory of the Electra complex which Veera used to delineate before (because he is a father-like figure in his sister's life).

But this I-am-the-man-of-the-house attitude just does not suit him at all. It is just mind-numbing and plain irritating!

As Sonu and IshqShava have already pointed out, the timing of the track is wrong, and it is unpalatable that Ranvi is opposing two matches, both of whom are admired and loved by the viewers. It makes him look like pyaar ka dushman and a villain, in spite of him being right in his own way.

And as for choosing Rajvir for Veera, it seems as if Ranvi has done that just to spite Baldev. All this while, he even refused to believe that his sister was old enough for marriage, and now suddenly he chooses a groom for her.

Lovely post, and thanks for the PM!😊

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Posted: 10 years ago

nice post zaina..

firstly Ranvi i dont see as a person who believs in taboos at all... he sent his sis to study outside pind, doesnt have a issue wid gunjans dressing to a lot of things he did and does which other ppl in pind find taboo...from what i see he is just being obsessive and over possessive abt his sis and mom and doesnt want any other men in their lives.. and well he isnt even sitting down to think rationally how dey would feel with his NO.. and frankly he feels pushing his decision over dem is right cos he thinks its right.. sometimes u have to leave dem to choose wat dey want wether right or wrong..

and coming to NIRA.. ratan is a grown uop woman.. and instead of ranting screaming at nihal and ratan.. he needs to sit down and peacefully ask her wat she wants.. and wether she thinks wat she is doing is right.. and let her take a decision for her life period.. ratan is not veera..

and lastly dis whole drama is getting into a drag.. rajveer simran are totally boring.. i wish dey had gotten wedding done instead,..