JA Oct 13|Hussein Under the Damocles' Sword, Updt Abhay P12, Oct14 P11 - Page 10

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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



well said Charu..

@bold: me too along with yours and Priyas.

I am breaking my head thinking about what Ruks would have done so that she is punished by Jalal. Something has to be there but so far I could not find any clues at all..😭😭

May be screeching tomorrow more, her MUZ intention comes out. If not has she swapped the babies. Or did she have a plan and this is why JO was taken outside Agra to see Hakima..


Thank you Sindhu .

I humbly accept your compliment , even though I honestly feel that I should not be compared with the other talented bunch at all . Each one of them has their unique style of writing and I appreciate their talent .
Coming to Rukaiya , I have a few theories about how she may get caught . She may find out that Jodha and Jalal had spent the night together and this is why Jodha was away from baby Hussein . Her anger will be more towards Jodha's proximity with Jalal , rather than losing baby Hussein. In a fit of jealous rage , she may try to harm the grief stricken Jodha .She may get caught in the process.

My second theory is , she may expect Jalal to show her sympathy for losing Hussein, after all she considered herself his ammijaan . Jalal's understanding and sympathies will naturally be towards Jodha , this will not go well with Rukaiya . She may have a war of words with Jalal and in the process reveal her true colors to him .

My third theory is this : Jalal has ordered an investigation about the fire , several other truths will come out in this investigation . Jalal may end up questioning Rukaiya about trusting Zeenat blindly and engaging her to become the dhaimaa instead of allowing the biological mother herself to feed Hussein . He will hold her responsible for the entire mess . Not the one to take the blame lightly , Rukaiya will get into arguing mode and end up revealing more than necessary .

If we have to go by the Zee guys words , then there is a clue already aired that we all have missed which may get 'begum e khas in trouble' . Whatever it is I am ready to say 'tata' , 'bye-bye' to her . Sooner the better .


Charu.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

@ Radhika, Neetz, Charu, Tamy, Sindhu, Priya, ambrosia, and all

Thanks for your awesome takes. Not able to respond to all of you.
But enjoyed reading your responses. 👍🏼

PS ::
Today is NOT the BirthDay of Akbar. 😊
Please see this post to get the actual DOB. Link:>>: Click Here

My Best Wishes. May his name be taken with respect forever. 👏


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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: history_geek


Hi all,

I Did not watch the episode. But after reading you all, and after seeing some pics, it seems that the episode was a mixed bag. The first half was good and second one was dedicated to the LEAD of this show -> Ruqayya Begum. 😆

As per Tahni's Live Update, JJ came quite close today. That scene was well enacted by PS and RT. BTW, i did not hear that "anyone" was uncomfortable or there was any BD used, despite reading that this was MORE passionate then the first one. LOL .

Though, this is good for PariJat fans, but I feel that, showing this scene was not required at the moment. I mean, the timing was not so good. One of the child has died, and at this moment showing this sequence was out of place.


Don't draw Conclusions. Watch the Present.
Why did they{CV's} become so much meherbaan on us today.?. I think that, i should not draw any conclusions at the moment. JA CV's have defied all logics many times. Hence, i won't say that this is the prequel to the separation track or Amer track. It may be possible that CV's are planning to show the baby girl (born after Twins to Jodha, i mentioned the details in my Kids Post, link of the post is below in my signature, i mentioned one son also in that list), but for that we still have time. Pata nahi which way CV's will turn to.


Expected JJ Equation

Jo and Ja came closer after this twins demise incident. I wrote in my Long Post on New Promo(those who have read it), that this Jalal will be as Ruthless and heartless while dealing with the territorial expansion of Empire BUT his equations with Jodha would not change. Though the CV's are capable of dishing up anything. Hence, let's see what happens.


About Ruqayya,

I am hopeful. She has done something, i feel, i am expecting flashbacks for many deeds. The manner in which Ruqayya was shown dominant in this track is something which is ABNORMAL. This was DONE deliberately to make her fall a cherry on cake.
She has to be shown her position. Lets wait and watch. CV's can NOT change the REALITY even if they LOVE her so much. ;p


Future

For me, No separation should happen. JJ are expected to go on wars together. Next track in pipeline, as per timeline, is flight of Sharif-ud-din and his consequent war with Jalal, and i am expecting Sujamal also.
Before that(if CV's are meherbaan), then we are also expected to see Jalal getting hurt by an arrow, this scene was shown in the Jodha Akbar movie. TLC expected. ;p


About so many PMs, which you sent, i am answering here.>
I do Not see any Leap.LOL.
How on Earth is a Long Leap possible NOW.?. ROFL.
No leap of 15 years and that too in October.😕
How can we think that we will get Salim in October itself.?. LOL.

We have many tracks and all that will take time..So chillax and watch the PRESENT.
I mentioned so many tracks(at least 30 points) in Maddy's Old Sunday thread.. The New Promo is on similar lines.


I was fed up of this saintly Jalal, and wanted to see the one, as shown in the Promo.

I want the CV's to show him with a balanced persona, not ONLY a Dharmatma, because that Dharmatma image can NOT explain his Empire Expansion, as i said in my Page-1 post..!!!.


PS::
Also, See my Short Post Below this post, here. >
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/114585229



Superb writeup Abhay .

I completely agree with you about the leap .
You are right . Logically , a leap is not possible .However since we are witnessing a lot of illogical stuff in the name of history , anything is possible .

About Rukaiya , she has definitely done something wrong , which will get revealed via FB .
I am not too sure about the nature of the punishment that she will receive.

I am happy that Jalal has become ruthless again . This was really needed for his own growth , both as a shehenshah/warrior and as a husband .

I too do not foresee any misunderstanding or separation between Jodha and Jalal .( unless the Creatives are bent upon taking the soap opera route ) If a MU is shown , then the very purpose of showing the growing 'silent' understanding between the two them , will be defeated .

I have no hopes from the Creatives . I expect the 'fire' investigation and Zeenat's revelation to happen by Friday and I am positive that Rukaiya's track will stretch for the next ten days at least , until she is finally given the third degree in private , her title of being 'khaas' and BEK , and her control of the harem will be taken way , but her image will be preserved and basically no one other than the immediate family will know of her horrendous deeds .

Charu .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#94
Nice post radhika.
Loved reading the above discussion, n POVs.
Thanks all.

So sad to see Hussein too die today.
The death of the babies by conspiracies of zeenath now removes the reason of death due to Mahams curse. It's not becz of curse but becz of revenge.
Initially I thought that the incessant harping on the Mahams curse by cvs was a safety net to help Ruks escape if she did do something to endanger the kids. But looks like Ruks has not done anything to the kids, even if she swapped babies, that doesn't make her a murderer. It solely falls on zeenath. I don't see any reason for Ruks punishment as it's not apparent what she has done if at all, she has done anything. Wish Ruks does get punished for throwing false accusations at jodha n being so overbearing n disrespectful. Ruks may be grieving but doesn't give her carte Blanche to spew all this hurtful, insensitive, horrible accusations at Jo.
Sorry for venting or going off of today's epi discussion. Others have said it all, n so beautifully. So iam just going to write some random thoughts that come into my mind.
The fault for Ruks behavior totally falls on ja for letting her n things go out of hand.
Why r ja Jo (in general) acting as if Jo is the other woman, the mistress, who has taken the man from Ruks, n jajo feeling guilty for loving each other, n so pacifying n pandering to Ruks all the time?
Come on this is a plygamous relationship. Grow up, Ruks, Jajo.
Poor Salima begum, Jo never invites her to sit next to ja in dek, neither does ja. She has been relegated to keep the oldies company most of the time.
As someone wrote, it's such an assault on the senses to see one tragedy after another in succession on JA, waiting for things to change. A subdued Ruks, (with. Not so much screen time), an assertive Jajo, not this quivering, jellyfish, lost for words Jajo.
Parijat have done a stupendous, awesome job.
Cvs have done a mockery of the death of the twins of akbar. From the word get go of Jo's pregnancy nothing was as anticipated. The whole thing was so anticlimactic. But this track was so emotionally draining, waiting for the closure n new dawn in Jajos life.


N what has happened to bakshi Babi, n baby, (even shivani. ) Haven't seen bb at all since the twins were born. Very strange. Big blooper by cvs. Even sd was present at times.
Edited by ..PT.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


Thank you Sindhu .

I humbly accept your compliment , even though I honestly feel that I should not be compared with the other talented bunch at all . Each one of them has their unique style of writing and I appreciate their talent .
Coming to Rukaiya , I have a few theories about how she may get caught . She may find out that Jodha and Jalal had spent the night together and this is why Jodha was away from baby Hussein . Her anger will be more towards Jodha's proximity with Jalal , rather than losing baby Hussein. In a fit of jealous rage , she may try to harm the grief stricken Jodha .She may get caught in the process.

My second theory is , she may expect Jalal to show her sympathy for losing Hussein, after all she considered herself his ammijaan . Jalal's understanding and sympathies will naturally be towards Jodha , this will not go well with Rukaiya . She may have a war of words with Jalal and in the process reveal her true colors to him .

My third theory is this : Jalal has ordered an investigation about the fire , several other truths will come out in this investigation . Jalal may end up questioning Rukaiya about trusting Zeenat blindly and engaging her to become the dhaimaa instead of allowing the biological mother herself to feed Hussein . He will hold her responsible for the entire mess . Not the one to take the blame lightly , Rukaiya will get into arguing mode and end up revealing more than necessary .

If we have to go by the Zee guys words , then there is a clue already aired that we all have missed which may get 'begum e khas in trouble' . Whatever it is I am ready to say 'tata' , 'bye-bye' to her . Sooner the better .


Charu.



She being angry with Jodha any more cannot happen because she is at fault too. She was the one who wanted Zeenat to be in Jo's hojra 24 hrs. Also this mishap would have happened 3 days before if Jalal did not bring Hussein to JO. Poor baby at least got to spend some time with his real mother.

Second and third theory is very much possible.

@bold: me too me too

I badly want to see the assertive Jodha giving back to Ruks...
Edited by SindhuMenon - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Abhay - thanks for the lovely update...I do not have any more patience to tolerate Ruks, Abhay. Cant they at least reduce her screen space.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..PT..

Nice post radhika.

Loved reading the above discussion, n POVs.
Thanks all.

So sad to see Hussein too die today.
The death of the babies by conspiracies of zeenath now removes the reason of death due to Mahams curse. It's not becz of curse but becz of revenge.
Initially I thought that the incessant harping on the Mahams curse by cvs was a safety net to help Ruks escape if she did do something to endanger the kids. But looks like Ruks has not done anything to the kids, even if she swapped babies, that doesn't make her a murderer. It solely falls on zeenath. I don't see any reason for Ruks punishment as it's not apparent what she has done if at all, she has done anything. Wish Ruks does get punished for throwing false accusations at jodha n being so overbearing n disrespectful. Ruks may be grieving but doesn't give her carte Blanche to spew all this hurtful, insensitive, horrible accusations at Jo.
Sorry for venting or going off of today's epi discussion. Others have said it all, n so beautifully. So iam just going to write some random thoughts that come into my mind.
The fault for Ruks behavior totally falls on ja for letting her n things go out of hand.
Why r ja Jo (in general) acting as if Jo is the other woman, the mistress, who has taken the man from Ruks, n jajo feeling guilty for loving each other, n so pacifying n pandering to Ruks all the time?
Come on this is a plygamous relationship. Grow up, Ruks, Jajo.
Poor Salima begum, Jo never invites her to sit next to ja in dek, neither does ja. She has been relegated to keep the oldies company most of the time.
As someone wrote, it's such an assault on the senses to see one tragedy after another in succession on JA, waiting for things to change. A subdued Ruks, (with. Not so much screen time), an assertive Jajo, not this quivering, jellyfish, lost for words Jajo.
Parijat have done a stupendous, awesome job.
Cvs have done a mockery of the death of the twins of akbar. From the word get go of Jo's pregnancy nothing was as anticipated. The whole thing was so anticlimactic. But this track was so emotionally draining, waiting for the closure n new dawn in Jajos life.


Nice write up PT 😊.

I think we will being to see the old ruthless Jalal again .

I feel that Rukaiya will be definitely punished but will still remain in Jalal's life , after all she is his first queen .She is also the chief negative lead in the serial . So she is not going anywhere . To be honest , I 'd rather put up with her , than see a new villain/vamp being introduced . ( Remember Mahachuchak ? Her character is still ruling Kabul . I shudder to think of her coming back again )

Hopefully after today , we will not witness anymore tragedy in JA at least for the time being .

I feel that henceforth we will see more of Akbar as a ruler , a capable administrator , a brave soldier and also the spiritual growth of Jodha and Akbar .



Charu.






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Posted: 11 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



She being angry with Jodha any more cannot happen because she is at fault too. She was the one who wanted Zeenat to be in Jo's hojra 24 hrs. Also this mishap would have happened 3 days before if Jalal did not bring Hussein to JO. Poor baby at least got to spend some time with his real mother.

Second and third theory is very much possible.

@bold: me too me too

I badly want to see the assertive Jodha giving back to Ruks...


When I said that Rukku would be angry with Jodha , I meant that she would be angry , as in the jealously invoked angry , for spending time with Jalal and not staying with Hussein . She already questioned Jodha several times about her whereabouts during the night in front of Jalal and others .

It would give me utmost happiness to see Rukaiya being abused by all the ladies in the harem , bandhis and Hoshiyar Khan .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


When I said that Rukku would be angry with Jodha , I meant that she would be angry , as in the jealously invoked angry , for spending time with Jalal and not staying with Hussein . She already questioned Jodha several times about her whereabouts during the night in front of Jalal and others .

It would give me utmost happiness to see Rukaiya being abused by all the ladies in the harem , bandhis and Hoshiyar Khan .


The only reason why I don't want to see Jodha react to Rukaiya is because I want Jodha to maintain her dignity , good manners and magnanimity . I want her to stop sympathizing with her, stop feeling guilty about coming in between her and Jalal and stop influencing Jalal to understand Rukaiya's nature. That woman deserves no sympathy . Jodha should stop all communication with her asap .


Charu .
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


The only reason why I don't want to see Jodha react to Rukaiya is because I want Jodha to maintain her dignity , good manners and magnanimity . I want her to stop sympathizing with her, stop feeling guilty about coming in between her and Jalal and stop influencing Jalal to understand Rukaiya's nature. That woman deserves no sympathy . Jodha should stop all communication with her asap .


Charu .



totally agree. I also do not mean JO should yell back, but I want JO to be more assertive.

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