Zener: Is this what you meant?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Zener asked me to make a separate post... I "hope" this is what she meant
If not I would be happy to delete the content...
😃
Pros:

Mrs Bhalla totally nailed it when she said Ishita is going to pay for it dearly. Ishita Bhalla lacks passion. She is a half sanyasi, she is better off living her life as a jogan/sirf Ruhi ke liye Ma.

I have begun to love Simmi. What she is she is... no cloaks. Every home with an Ishita needs a Simmi

Raman's frustration was done beautifully. His line "It took me six years to get her out of my life AND OUT OF MY HEART" THERE! He said it! To all those that feel Ishita Bhalla is not getting any hints, here is the biggest one.

KP was amazing... so fabulous

Happy I didn't have to be subject to Ishita Bhalla's torturous speech about how "insensitive husbands are" because Raman didn't care for Shagun

Father-son conversation was damn cute

Raman's restlessness was adorable, when he said "I will apologize now but kill her in the morning" was to DIE FOR. KP does that with aplomb

I have lingering hope that Ishita will woo Raman and will apologize, but that wont happen I know. She will caress the name plate when she is alone or give a bhashan unnecessarily at some random conference instead.

Cons:

Ishita had NO REMORSE. MANY MANY times during the Adi track Raman would cringe in her presence, he has been extremely generous in saying he is sorry and in apologizing. She did not say ONE SORRY to the guy today. Its his EX-wife, if he doesn't care she is left on the street why should Ishita?

She was extremely nonchalant when she asked him to let her and Shagun enter. Like she really didn't care what Raman's opinion was?

AFTER she made Shagun comfortable, there was not one apology or mellowing of body language, no plea in her eyes.

Tomorrow when Raman will lose his temper she will jhaado a bhashan and walk away

Ishita couldn't find one vacant hotel room in Delhi?

Anita totally OTT, sorry, but she was...

Bringing water as the dutiful wife made me sick. Like ALL she cares about is if her husband is fed and hydrated?

Ishita has not only humiliated the institution of marriage, she also has insulted Raman by making him endure Ashok.

Bringing Delhi's crime rate into play IMO was unnecessary. Shagun voluntarily got drunk and misbehaved and was kicked out. Its an insult to all those girls that work in call centers and return home by public transport and encounter the fate. While I dont want her to endanger her virtue, I really dont care for Ishita's emotional blackmail using Delhi's crime rates
P.S. Shagun slept with Ashok while married to Raman. Thats a crime too, I would love to hear Ishita justify that😃
What a sad sad day YHM has come to

I hope this script change is going to cost Ekta Kapoor. I cannot imagine any EDUCATED urban, upper middle class working wife in Delhi, in her 20s or 30s wanting to bring her husband's ex-wife to her husband's bed.

Ishita Iyer has long disappeared. The caricature we see is merely a very common avatar of Ekta's other leading ladies.

Most startling shameful conclusion of the day: "Ishita's urge to help Shagun. It overrode everything. Despite being fully aware of every hurt and pain Shagun has caused her "mera pati ". As if all of Raman's pain is immaterial faced with her urge for some nari mukti aandolan.



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sumiko thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree, these are all the things I feel too but you have penned them very well , touching every aspect of the situation.I feel Ishita's heart is not in Raman any more. Her heart is in her duty towards right and wrong,and that when interacting with Raman we interpret her words, expressions,and actions as her special feeling for him but it comes to the fore only during an emergency or out of the way situations and the in between awareness and blushes and shyness she experiences are not dwelt upon by her like a woman in love would . She has shoved them to the back of her mind. May be Raman is not able to evoke impulsive and spontaneous feelings for him in her the way Subu could at one time.She is an uncomplicated person and I don't thing her emotional quotient can handle this unlike Raman who is a past master at this. May be Raman needs to be more understanding .He needs to awaken her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I get the feeling lots of us are reacting a bit too strongly against this track. You have put down the points but I feel like as if they are extreme in nature too much to the other side
Ishita is not completely wrong or completely right
Neither is Raman

And I think that is what the scene with both of them separate scene in the night is telling us
Edited by columbia - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wow so well said. i couldnt watch the episodes for the past 2 days for the story so i didnt. i'm a die hard YHM fan who would stay up until 11pm to watch an episode or i would go to sleep and set my alarm to wake up and watch it. now i'm taking a break from the show.
Ishitha could have, worst case, let shagun sleep in Ruhi's room, or found a hotel, or if ishitha was so worried she should have booked a hotel and stayed with Shagun to take care of her and let Raman know. would she have felt the same way if Subbu was invited to live in her house by Raman. this is a deal breaker for a marriage, she is hurting Raman and her family (especially the Bhalla's with this behaviour).
this pushes her relationship with Raman back to square one, where he was only angry. she has opened a deep wound and is now rubbing salt in it. i no longer believe in the goodness of Ishitha, if she wants to have such acts of courage and goodness then she must renounce her family and live in an Ashram where she can do Seva all day every day.
This act will take weeks of healing and it will be Raman who will do the forgiving. i would love to see Ishitha apologise and beg for forgiveness but like everyone has said, she wont do it because she doesnt believe that she is wrong. she should now take a vow of silence and a vow to stop meddling, but from the mimi wedding track we can see she is going to once again play detective to get to the bottom of the situation. why does she want to crash through peoples barriers and find their inner demons when it took her so long to let go of hers?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Omg 🤣
So all u want to say is KP is amazing in whatever he does.You wrote all those things to highlight this point.
Sorry,but that's what your intention seems to be.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Finding a hotel????! This is India yaar woh bhi Delhi baarish mei kisko ek decent hotel milegaa for a lonely woman come on guys! She brought her home becos that is her comfort zone, they have shown the contrast so well I felt - shagun had no where but ishita did!!! The secure atmosphere was her safety net - her own home
I don't think this brings it back to square one in fact I feel this teaches them both that they cannot escape their pasts, mistakes hongey and they have to learn above them
Minutes ago raman has told her she was absolutely wrong with Param and the way he talked to her any woman would have made him jump hoops but she didn't he went and interfered with her work colleague any thinking professional woman would be bringing him to the task he realize he is wrong he didn't get his chance to apologize becos she did something wrong now she will get a Chnave and he will also

Both have made mistakes and that is life guys both make mistakes both move on I for one I know I am minority 😊 But I love this track. Actually was asking aunties in my building they thought such a mature and well handled track i think we young ones are going little bonkers 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Honestly, you made the entire post sound like Ishita has forced Shagun back into his life after all this time.
It's not like Shagun wasn't a part of his life all this time. Hasn't Ishita been used by Raman countless times to put Shagun down.? Half of the problems in his life are because of that woman and I guess you seem to be forgetting that Ishita happens to be the one who saves him too.

I don't think she did any mistake by helping Shagun. If it makes a difference, Raman has also helped Shagun out of humanity when Tyagi was harassing her. Will you call him a "mahaanta ka moorat " too.?? She brought Shagun to Bhalla house, though I wasn't happy with it but still its fine as she had no option left. She put Shagun in their bedroom, that was where she went wrong for me.!

She did a mistake, agreed. But come on, its not the end of the world. If she has hurt him, she has also given him thousand reasons to be happy. But you made the entire post sound like all she has done is hurt him always.

I am not supporting her for her mistake but its sad to see that people ae saying stuff which are totally irrelevant and mean. Neither of them are saints IMO..He has hurt her on countless occasions too, but just like she has been there for him, he has been there for her too.

Edited by -IshRaDivAn- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't agree with your cons and I feel you are being extra harsh on ishita. I don't know why you are saying she has no remorse, later on when she was sitting on the bed her emotions spoke volumes. It clearly highlighted that she had hurt her family members and her husband. She also tried to explain to Raman but he was to angry and upset to listen. I don't know why you are picking on a thing like a glass of water, that was just out of care and concern or to clear things with him not to be dutiful or anything.
yes she did make a mistake by taking Shagun to her bedroom and that was probably her biggest mistake and she will repent it and realize her mistake.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh and to add on I don't remember Raman apologizing properly after the Adi track, he had caused her a lot of pain and hurt.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have begun to love Simmi. What she is she is...
no cloaks. Every home with an Ishita needs a
Simmi"

Are you serious ? I mean seriously ?
Here Ishita is trying every tooth and nail for her and you like Simmi taunting Ishita.

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