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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: sajni786



Ok so I have a question...why are we humans always expected to move on with another partner (romantically) after the demise/break up with the earlier one?
Why cant move on simply mean moving on from being depressed about the situation and living life to the fullest with the cherished moments of the loved one while spreading love and laughter around you.

Sometimes...falling and living in that love is a once in a lifetime deal...and once you have experienced it...you really dont have it in you to re experience it. Plus like you say...if he does share his love for Paro with Myrah...dont you think that's unfair to Myrah? Does she really deserve to have a man who she knows will probably never be able to love her as deeply as his first wife? No woman deserves such a empathetic and incomplete love. Heck if you come to know how deadly and deeply this man is able to be in love...you would be even more elated to experience it...and it would shatter you twice as much to realize that the man is now no longer capable of it...coz he has given it all away already...



R u sure Rudra has already given all his love ( I do not mean tht he has not loved Paro totally ) n he does not have capacity to love again . If Paro has made him whT he is today then he has huge capacity to love again. He has had only abt two yrs with Paro n now she is no more. I m all for he spending his life alone if makers has stopped the serial at Paro's death scene but they hv introduce Myra i. His life n there must be reason for it . I believe Myra will get equal amount of love frm Rudra n it will be diff kind . Any ways at the end of it we can go on n on debating on this , u have ur pov I hv my pov I believe in second chances n do believe tht every one has tremendous capacity to love n Rudra is Still so young . N second think n the fact is I don't want RR to end I defo want SaNish on my screen as I do not watch any Hindi serials apart frm the one Sanny in it . So I will take the story as they want to show it . U do write beautifully though . We r just diff in our thinking . I loved Rudra n Paro beautiful journey n I will love Rudra n Myra . .. No hard feelings . U ppl r just amazing with ur attachment to the story to the characters , I purely see as entertainment n of course for Sanaya n now Ashish .

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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: sajni786

Jo...all I want to say is...that as much as I like Myrah as a stand alone character...I cannot accept her with Rudra unless she is Paro.

I know its difficult but what I mean is with time even human being does move on even if we feel its impossible because life is like that .. if we hv to survive , we hv to then find a companion or else we die of suffocation .. as long as the change is subtle and believable it should b fine ..

Rudra's characterization that we have seen so far in these 7 months does not have that capacity to have another life partner...let alone a look like.

see the point is Rudra is not alone anymore .. its not just about him anymore .. a child is involved too with him .. so if he just thinks about his happiness , it makes a father selfish ..isn't it .. at times u need to compromise for your kid's happiness and this is what I want to see in Rudra-Myrah relation actually .. Instead of Rudra falling for Myrah so easily , I want to see him compromise eventually for Dhruv but continue to love Paro and then slowly Myrah can make efforts to make a separate place in his heart over the time ... that will make this new season believable ..

I made a post yesterday about how Rudra is like Raj Aryan Malhotra from Mohabbatein who when they fall in love...its once in a lifetime...and even after the demise of their spouse...they cannot stop loving them...they cannot move beyond them...

Read:
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4129941

I agree what u mean when u compared Rudra to Raj of Mohabbatein but we r forgetting there Raj was not hving any child .. he was all alone and so he had the liberty to forever keep loving one person .. here case is slightly diff as a child is involved ..

Rudra loved his Paro way too deeply and soulfully...and if you look at his character graph...there is no way he can justify any other woman's love if she is not Paro.

but Dhruv can love myrah as his mother na .. he has never seen Paro ./. thats where complications come .. does Rudra just think about his peace of mind or think from Dhruv's POV too ...

I know makers are trying to use the kid angle and justify Rudra-Myrah through him...but I find it very distasteful.

its because u r seeing it just as PaRud story and if I see it as PaRud story , I too find it impossible to accept Myrah-Rudra .. so I m seeing the situation more from PaRud's child's POV and is able to connect ...

And as you say...even after the mental clash of Rudra fighting over Myrah Vs Paro...it still wont make Rudra detached from Paro...His love for Paro was totally something else. TBH...if we really look at his character from RR1...there should not even be a question of Rudra having his mental war unless Myrah is Paro...coz Rudra never fell for Paro's face...it was a soul pull that made him keep bumping into her despite trying to run the other direction. So if you say that just coz Myrah has Paro's face he should have this dilemna and mental war...then that's character assassination right there. For Rudra to even have a mental war between Paro and Myrah...he has to feel a soul pull and for that Myrah has to be Paro.


But face does play an important role when it comes to triggering old memories of your past because face is the first thing that comes in our memory .. I m talking more from a realistic POV and not from a soul connection POV .. trying to look at RR2 in a more practical way as makers too r doing the same I guess and mayb its working for trps too 🤔

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: squivi


With regards to the bolded part: He doesn't see Paro in Myrah because, as he's said over and over again, they are not the same person. When he first saw Myrah, his mind instantly went to Paro, at how they look the same. Now, he's clearly made the difference in his head and has repeatedly stated that Myrah is not his Paro. Which is why there's no conflict or triggering of Paro's memories. His only trigger for Paro's memories is her not being there with him - doesn't need to look at Myrah to remember Paro. He clearly still is madly in love with her and doesn't want anyone else (so far). If there's a shred of thought in Rudra's mind that Myrah is Paro, then the conflict will arise.


I do agree that Rudra is watered down, but I chalk that up to him just losing his entire soul when Paro died. He's simply living for the sake of his son. Hence his passion and intensity died with Paro. And just bad writing on the CVs' part too.



See we can justify this part saying Rudra is not seeing Paro in Myrah anymore as he is detached from Myrah and realise he is not Paro ..

But trp viewers dont understand all these minor points and my post was mostly from trp viewers POV only ... last week trps went up only because we saw Rudra in that dilemma seeing a lookalike of his wife

CVs shuld play on this dilemma and keep that intensity high .. it just works well for trps .. just saying it from my own soap experience 😆😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvbuf

His intensity only looks good with Paro

CVs return our Paro to the show, and bring Rudra's intensity back

Rudy laughing too much - I don't get it 😡



I guess Paro wont return now because tpr viewers seems to hv accepted Myrah .. so well ... I m happy as long as we get good trps and SanIsh get their due 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rashika

To some point I can see where you are coming from but for me I see that Rudra doesn't feel anything for Myrah. He was having issues with her when he first met her because she looks exactly like Paro and we did see some flashbacks. The thing is he can't always have a go at her knowing full well that she a powerful uncle who could get him and his family thrown out. He also can't shout at Dhruv because he promised Paro he wouldn't.

Thats where I hv a problem ... Rudra was someone who never used to b scared of political pressures or anything but now he seems to hv gone too timid on that which is bothering me .. he can always shift back to the old house of theirs na .. they shifted because of Shantanu factor but now toh he is dead , so why remain in this house under political pressure .. thats not the Rudra we know ... I guess its just that CVs need a excuse to keep them on this set and also fit Myrah in the house and so compromise on Rudra ka character

The best scene of today was the flashback, him talking about Paro to the kids and when he was alone listening to Haili Mahri Sunle Ramji. He misses Paro very much and we can see that. I do wonder how he is going to handle Dhruv tomorrow judging by the fact Dhruv wants Myrah to stay forever. Hope the CV's do that scene well because Dhruv pinning his hopes on Myrah is not a good sign.

Yes I lvoed the fact that we do get glimpses of scenes where he is missing Paro .. I expect him to blast off Dhruv in private for thinking about Myrah as his mother ... see thats the basic nature of Rudra I believe even if he tries to melllow down .. he does loose his cool when it comes to his loved ones and thats where I want the intense Rudra back 🤔

As for Rudra Myrah I can't see this couple as a couple. There just is no chemistry there. I know the Sanish have chemistry on screen as we have seen it but they had the chemistry because Paro and Rudra had chemistry. Myrah and Rudra I can't see it. Rudra is still very much in love with Paro and I don't think he is even thinking about Myrah.

I hope if at all CVs planning a myrah-Rudra story , it should grow eventually and slowly .. not in a rushed way .. we might feel their chemistry if the bonding is taken in a slow manner without overnight showing Rudra falling for Myrah ..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parihoonmein_12

Interesting write up.

I don't get RR these days. When Myrah's character was introduced, I watched because I was sure there was an underlying suspense that is going to be mind-blowing. A part of me also wanted nothing more than Myrah=Paro revelation. I gave it a chance to see how the story is going to unfold and what justification there was for killing off Paro's character. But since last week, I feel like I'm watching a comedy and more for time pass only. I don't see any substance in the drama and too much tit-for-tat gamesmanship. Don't get me wrong, I love Myrah's character and she's a riot with her antics. But what am I watching! Seriously what am I watching!

I get what u r saying .. yes the substance is no more there ,.. in tensity and basic story telling is lacking too .. also the base on which RR was set has gone off with Paro's death and all can return back only if Myrah is Paro whose chances too look less now .. we hv to see it like a total new story ..


Rudra confuses me! Before Myrah's entry, Rudra appeared passive and sober. Understandably, he is without his soul (Paro) and just going through the motions, caring for his son. But since Myrah's entry and because of her antics, he is quick to temper, he is drawn to battle with her over frivolous things, he's smiling for goodness sake. Where once he would leave the room, now he is comfortable walking in to her room without a by your leave. What's change?

Yup thats the issue I hv too .. he seems to b too fine with her when I was expecting him to just avoid her for sometime .. why joke around with her or laugh at her antics as if he is starting to enjoy her company overnight .. thats the feel I got and it was too soon for my liking


One on hand he is teasing and poking fun at her and on the other hand, he is quick to judge her character. He was equally judgmental of Paro in the intial stages. .When he was with Paro in the initial phrase, he was conflicted in the push and pull, driving her away with his words, but on an unconscious level wanting her by his side. He appears to have that same pull and push with Myrah so why is he not probing his conscience. Why is he so adamant that she should not know anything about Paro?

Yess .. I agree on this and thats where I feel once again CVs doing same mistake of rushing with the love story without really introducing Myrah properly to viewers .. I mean we dunno who r her parents or fiance yet ... and I m not liking that Rudra is enjoying joking around with her .. I expect him to remain more aloof and even if CVs show the communication between both , it should b related to Dhruv only for now ..


Strangely the intensity was lackluster before Paro's "death" (I'm still hoping that Myrah is Paro). I was hoping that this track would bring the intensity back, especially since there is so much mystery attached to Myrah.

I agree


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vaish2003



Falling on top of each other in yesterday's episode was not romance , there was awkward moment thts abt it .. Even Myra is not in romance mood wr Rudra is concerned , there is still time for tht . They have yet to explore . As of now both r irritated with each other . Rudra's mind does not get triggered by Paro's memories while looking at Myra because Paro is always with him n in his mind. Myra is just look a like tht it . The intensity will come when these two will come to know each other n I think cv's n actors r doing brilliant job of not showing tht awareness n intensity at the moment .

Rudra has to love Myra for whT she is n not because she looks like Paro n Myra has to love Rudra with all his emotional baggage . Paro has already healed him to some extent Myra will complete him ( n for this m going to get chappals 😆 ) but m loving this track. It's realistic n grounded ok thts my pov



I think Myrah is already in love with Rudra and so constantly she hears those bell sounds whenever he is close to her .. its like dil ki ghanti baji types 😆😆 .. and that fall was obviously a part of a moment CVs wanted to show to test the Myrah-Rudra chemistry meter for sure or lese the fall was relaly not needed 😆😆 ... and even after the fall why did Rudra keep laughing as if he enjoyed it .. I was expecting him to give a irritated look so that as a viewerr I can feel ok they were irritated after the fall like u said but in the scene I dint see any irritation , instead Rudra gave a smile after she left

And yup lets see Myrah's reaction once she finds out about Paro mayb which I feel will come this Janmashtami when Myrah will dress up like Paro and this is where Rudra might finally loose his temper 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: sajni786



Ok so I have a question...why are we humans always expected to move on with another partner (romantically) after the demise/break up with the earlier one?
Why cant move on simply mean moving on from being depressed about the situation and living life to the fullest with the cherished moments of the loved one while spreading love and laughter around you.

Sometimes...falling and living in that love is a once in a lifetime deal...and once you have experienced it...you really dont have it in you to re experience it. Plus like you say...if he does share his love for Paro with Myrah...dont you think that's unfair to Myrah? Does she really deserve to have a man who she knows will probably never be able to love her as deeply as his first wife? No woman deserves such a empathetic and incomplete love. Heck if you come to know how deadly and deeply this man is able to be in love...you would be even more elated to experience it...and it would shatter you twice as much to realize that the man is now no longer capable of it...coz he has given it all away already...



See its possible if u r all alone but if u r carrying a kid with u na its not possible to forever remain with the memories of a dead person as it then suffocates the innocent child too who might b longing for both father and mother's love equally as the child dont understand all this true soulmate connection and all ... he/she will just need love of both parents which Rudra too wanted in childhood but never got for obvious reasons ... I m sure Rudra will not want Dhruv to become his carbon copy and kept away from a mother's love especially when Dhruv sees hope in Myrah ... this is the struggle which Rudra will hv to go through and maybe eventually compromise for his own kid .. 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sai1985

I didnt find any odd as rudra face didnt look as if he was enjoying myrah on top. N in every epi they r still showing him as devdas of paro n am all for myrud because i belive evrry person has a rt to be happy. N abv all i love sanish.



I thought he did smile after Myrah left .. so that gave me a feel as if he dint really mind the fall .. mayb enjoying is a wrong word but what I meant was he might b slowly starting to accept Myrah's company which I feel is too soon and rushed up 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Vaish2003

My apologies for barging in here! My two-cents! I get where you are coming from. There is love and there is love. Rudra was depicted as someone who was embittered by the past and has huge trust issues relating to women specifically in general. He was also portrayed as a man who is very loyal and staunching faithful. Be it his relationship with his dad, his mom or even Laila. This kind of exclusivity is very rare generally speaking in this day and age. Despite the betrayal by first his mother and then his father, the dynamics of their relationship did not change. Paro broke the barriers he had erected and penetrated his shell to make a place for her. She is his first real love. She taught him how to love and feel emotions, laughter, to celebrate the joys of life; she was the teacher and he the pupil. So now that he's knows the meaning of love, relationship, the dynamics with Myrah will be deeper and more intense.

This is all find and dandy and may even make sense if the creative did not go about showing Parud as an eternal couple who very essence is two-bodies-one-being. The "Tu Mein Hamesha"; Nobody can come between us; I won't let anyone come between us even; Nobody can separate us, even in death (something like that - Hindi is not my first language); I will die without you; you are my very existence; Without Paro, there is no Rudra, yada yada yada. So I can't buy what they are selling now if they decide that Myrah is going to replace Paro in Rudra's life. Both Paro and Myrah are poles apart in personality. At least for now they are keeping Myrahs character under wraps. When Paro was first introduced, she came across as demure and docile, timid and vulnerable. Slowly but surely the layers unfold and her character evolved to show the inner resilience and strength. Perhaps there may do the same with Myrah as she still is very much a mystery. Irrespective, I still cannot digest Rudra falling for a lookalike Paro. It's just too creepy.

Currently he's lifeline is Druv. He's promise to his Paro to be a good father for Druv, to smile and care for him. Paro did not complete her second request (perhaps a good thing because that would have been catastrophic, causing many fans to totally give up watching). Right now even the creative are undecided. If the creative want to show a sacrificial lamb giving in to the demands of his child and for his child's happiness - that is so clich and seriously an ideology of the dark ages and again may proof to be catastrophic. So they are playing with the fans' emotions - Swinging both ways (Paro's memories and Myrah's antics) to appease Parud and Myrud fans, which I find distasteful!

They are stalling for TRP reasons before they make that determination but it's taking a toll on me. I'm not contributing to the TRPs and seriously don't understand how this works. From what I have read so far it is not an ideal barometer of measure but I'm no resident expert so don't quote me on this.

@ sajni786

I'm with you. I fail to understand the concept of moving on with another partner (romantically), especially in a coercive manner (be it pressured by society, or by peers, or by parents, or for the sake of a child). Why can't we not cherish the moments that we had (especially beautiful moments). What's the guarantee that we can get the same happiness, the same love, etc.? Everyone has to right to move on and if they are blessed with love a second time round - halleluiah. But don't use a child as a pawn to bridge the gap. 😳

I've said this before and I'm saying this again. I don't understand where RR is headed. It is appearing as though the creative don't have a map either as they are so undecided. I'd rather they cut down of Mohini's and Shatabdi's and show two minutes of Myrah-and her parent's or chacha's convo or her talking about her plans for the upcoming wedding. Instead we are getting scenes of her involvement with the Ranawats and joining in their functions. Are they waiting for the TRP results before deciding which route to take?

Opps! This is my first long response I think - Sorry😳

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