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First of all, I would like, to thank all those who have commented on my previous post
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4127855
Sorry I couldn't reply to many comments, nor we could have a proper discussion. So I made this post, just to clarify few things.
To all who don't know me, I'm Swetha, was an adherent viewer of EMA, watching EMA from the day Ashish entered EMA, coz I like Ashish,and for him I started watching EMA.
Though Ashish was the main reason for me to watch EMA, I made an effort to watch all previous episodes to understand all other characters of EMA to get more connected to Ashish's character. In that process, I saw the entry scene of adult Kalpana after leap, a simple average looking girl(not so attractive) staring at a tall building, thinking in her mind one day she will own that building to fulfill her mother's dream(though she doesn't have penny in her bag)
In that scene, Kalpana character's attitude towards life, pain being a neglected child, headstrong nature and self confidence, attracted me and I developed instant connection with that character and I fell in love with kalpana's CHARACTER(here I'm stressing CHARACTER word more cause, I never knew about this actress, Rachana, before EMA, So being her fan was out of question at that time)
It was Kalpana's character which attracted me more than my fav Ashish's character Raghav. So its was Kalpana, who made me proud fan of Rachana. Rachana with her excellent acting skills, breathed life into Kalpana's character. Now I love Kalpana and Rachana equally, so most of us state Rachana is was and will be our Kalpana. Coz we love Kalpana character that much.
So I hope, I anwered the question of some people who have doubt why am I connected to Kalpana. Though my fav Ashish was part of EMA, I watched EMA more for Kalpana.
Before comming to Suhana's character, let me clear something, I know Asha before she joined EMA, I have voted for her in Nach Baliye, even I felt sad for Asha and Ritwik when Sajid critisized them for thier performances. So just to let you all know, at one point of time I too praised Asha for her performances in Nach Baliye. So disliking Asha is out of question, when I critisize Suhana's CHARACTER(again here I want to stress on word CHARACTER)
LIKE ME, I SAW OTHER FORUM MEMBERS ALSO, DON'T MIX REEL AND REAL. WHENEVER WE TAKE NAME OF ANY CHARACTER, WE CRITISISE THAT CHARACTER ONLY, NOT THE ACTOR/ACTRESS PLAYING THAT CHARACTER
(Please note here I'm not talking about other social media, like twitter and FB)
And As I stated this forum members thing, so I want to clear one more thing, Most of Us think, this forum is like our family and we have cordial relation with so many members, I have quite a lot of friends now(love you sweethearts). Though few people doesn't care about this forum, but few do care about this forum coz this forum is a medium to interact with old friends and make new friends, discuss POV, vent frustration, support each other and have fun with each other. Though we faced tough times with the show, we always supported each other, even though we had huge difference in POV.
I feel its my responsibility to maintain cordial atmosphere in this forum, so I thought to clarify few things which went into some other direction.
First I want to clarify few member's doubts : Few fellow members stated, I opened 2 similar posts mentioning Suhana is Pakhi, just to instigate Asha fans.
Oh dear, I don't dislike nor hate Asha(i gave the reason why, above ) then why will I instigate other Asha fans? Some one posted a comment in my previous post, everyone has right to post or comment anywhere in this forum coz this is public forum. So I also have right to make number of post if I feel those post are not similar (though I mentioned Suhana is like Pakhi in both posts, one post was meant for fun and other post was to show my dissatisfaction, both posts according to me are different) Moreover If Mod's think I'm spamming or polluting this forum, or If my posts are instigating or if they breach rules of IF, they will take strict action on my post and will warn me also. I'm already aware of those strict action of MODs. There are some senarios where Mod's clubed similar posts, if they think discussion are similar in both posts.
Now coming to my dissatisfaction on Suhana's character, I clearly mentioned in my post:
SUHANA CHARACTER IS YET ANOTHER DISAPPOINTMENT FROM EMA
I want to specify word "CHARACTER" again here, I was talking about Suhana's character not about Asha(I know the difference between Reel and Real life, I'm not immature to bash an actor for any character)
Next thing I want to stress on this word "ANOTHER" , clearly meant to say, I was already dissiapointed with EMA coz they have butchered almost all the characters of EMA (except Ramu Kaka).
My fav Ashish's character "RAGHAV" was huge dissapointment for me, few new members might not know, but the way most of us criticized Raghav (or I will use bashed word) , no body would have ever done that way. We love Ashish out side EMA, but never blindly defended his CHARACTER, we openly showed our dissatisfaction for RAGHAV, we gave harsh feedback to ASHISH also(still we do give harsh feedback to him) in a hope that RAGHAV CHARACTER will be redeemed. But all our efforts went in vain.
So for all those who think, why we support Raghav, Kamala and Vittal and not give chance to suhana. I would request them to please check few of our forum's previous posts, you will know how much love we showered on those characters.
For me, I would only pray no one should get a mother like Kamala, nor a father like vittal(vittal was kind of good father, but only thing which irks me is he puts kamla infront of everybody, atleast once we expected him to support his daughter Kalpana) in both reel and real life.
My POV on Raghav character, post may 9th after Raghav and Pakhi maarage, there is no difference between an object and Raghav, he was lifeless clueless confused soul. His character was butchered to such an level that now I would say Raghav is worst of all male leads in Indian television histroy. Ashish has utterly failed to impress us as Raghav, post Raghav and Pakhi marriage.
Comming to Kaplana, post sindoor marriage with raghav, we never ever blindly defended Kalpana for that particular bit. Most of us are completely against that marraige. We never were ready to consider Kalpana as second women in Raghav's life. Few of us believed Raghav and Pakhi marriage was fake(coz makers never showed any clip, where Raghav married Pakhi, its only verbally said by characters) so supporeted Kalpana's love. But again most of us wanted Raghav and Kalpana to be together with dignity.
Cvs butuchered Kalpana's character also to an extent, post Raghav Pakhi marriage, again most of us were unhappy with Kalpana's attitude towards Raghav. CVS disappointed us, by making Kalpana a doormat, waitress, and in some scenes they also made her a dumb character. But we still were connected to Kalpana coz CVS didn't change the nature and essence of this character. Still she had self-respect, self-confidence and zeal in her to achieve something big in her life.
Hope now I clear doubts why am I so connected with Kalpana, though I disagree with some changes, But Kalpana character's nature and essence was maintained throughout the show till revamp.
Now about my opinion on Suhana's CHARACTER:
I wanted to know, how Suhana's CHARACTER is portrayed in EMA post revamp?? I watched EMA episode to see how CVS are proceeding with revamp and the new Characters, just gave chance to EMA to see this new replacement in different angle.
So before forming any opinion, on suhana CHARACTER, I made an effort to first go and watch episode of Suhana, though I can't afford to watch Kamla on Screen( Most of us can't tolerate kamla anymore, we tolerated her only in a hope to see our beloved couple Raghav and Kalpana would unite in future).
I made a genuine effort from my side, by watching EMA show again, after that I made that post to share my POV on Suhana CHARACTER.
I didn't have much expectations on other characters nor CVS creativity, but only expected they would portray Suhana CHARACTER properly at least after revamp.
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4127855
Sorry I couldn't reply to many comments, nor we could have a proper discussion. So I made this post, just to clarify few things.
To all who don't know me, I'm Swetha, was an adherent viewer of EMA, watching EMA from the day Ashish entered EMA, coz I like Ashish,and for him I started watching EMA.
Though Ashish was the main reason for me to watch EMA, I made an effort to watch all previous episodes to understand all other characters of EMA to get more connected to Ashish's character. In that process, I saw the entry scene of adult Kalpana after leap, a simple average looking girl(not so attractive) staring at a tall building, thinking in her mind one day she will own that building to fulfill her mother's dream(though she doesn't have penny in her bag)
In that scene, Kalpana character's attitude towards life, pain being a neglected child, headstrong nature and self confidence, attracted me and I developed instant connection with that character and I fell in love with kalpana's CHARACTER(here I'm stressing CHARACTER word more cause, I never knew about this actress, Rachana, before EMA, So being her fan was out of question at that time)
It was Kalpana's character which attracted me more than my fav Ashish's character Raghav. So its was Kalpana, who made me proud fan of Rachana. Rachana with her excellent acting skills, breathed life into Kalpana's character. Now I love Kalpana and Rachana equally, so most of us state Rachana is was and will be our Kalpana. Coz we love Kalpana character that much.
So I hope, I anwered the question of some people who have doubt why am I connected to Kalpana. Though my fav Ashish was part of EMA, I watched EMA more for Kalpana.
Before comming to Suhana's character, let me clear something, I know Asha before she joined EMA, I have voted for her in Nach Baliye, even I felt sad for Asha and Ritwik when Sajid critisized them for thier performances. So just to let you all know, at one point of time I too praised Asha for her performances in Nach Baliye. So disliking Asha is out of question, when I critisize Suhana's CHARACTER(again here I want to stress on word CHARACTER)
LIKE ME, I SAW OTHER FORUM MEMBERS ALSO, DON'T MIX REEL AND REAL. WHENEVER WE TAKE NAME OF ANY CHARACTER, WE CRITISISE THAT CHARACTER ONLY, NOT THE ACTOR/ACTRESS PLAYING THAT CHARACTER
(Please note here I'm not talking about other social media, like twitter and FB)
And As I stated this forum members thing, so I want to clear one more thing, Most of Us think, this forum is like our family and we have cordial relation with so many members, I have quite a lot of friends now(love you sweethearts). Though few people doesn't care about this forum, but few do care about this forum coz this forum is a medium to interact with old friends and make new friends, discuss POV, vent frustration, support each other and have fun with each other. Though we faced tough times with the show, we always supported each other, even though we had huge difference in POV.
I feel its my responsibility to maintain cordial atmosphere in this forum, so I thought to clarify few things which went into some other direction.
First I want to clarify few member's doubts : Few fellow members stated, I opened 2 similar posts mentioning Suhana is Pakhi, just to instigate Asha fans.
Oh dear, I don't dislike nor hate Asha(i gave the reason why, above ) then why will I instigate other Asha fans? Some one posted a comment in my previous post, everyone has right to post or comment anywhere in this forum coz this is public forum. So I also have right to make number of post if I feel those post are not similar (though I mentioned Suhana is like Pakhi in both posts, one post was meant for fun and other post was to show my dissatisfaction, both posts according to me are different) Moreover If Mod's think I'm spamming or polluting this forum, or If my posts are instigating or if they breach rules of IF, they will take strict action on my post and will warn me also. I'm already aware of those strict action of MODs. There are some senarios where Mod's clubed similar posts, if they think discussion are similar in both posts.
Now coming to my dissatisfaction on Suhana's character, I clearly mentioned in my post:
SUHANA CHARACTER IS YET ANOTHER DISAPPOINTMENT FROM EMA
I want to specify word "CHARACTER" again here, I was talking about Suhana's character not about Asha(I know the difference between Reel and Real life, I'm not immature to bash an actor for any character)
Next thing I want to stress on this word "ANOTHER" , clearly meant to say, I was already dissiapointed with EMA coz they have butchered almost all the characters of EMA (except Ramu Kaka).
My fav Ashish's character "RAGHAV" was huge dissapointment for me, few new members might not know, but the way most of us criticized Raghav (or I will use bashed word) , no body would have ever done that way. We love Ashish out side EMA, but never blindly defended his CHARACTER, we openly showed our dissatisfaction for RAGHAV, we gave harsh feedback to ASHISH also(still we do give harsh feedback to him) in a hope that RAGHAV CHARACTER will be redeemed. But all our efforts went in vain.
So for all those who think, why we support Raghav, Kamala and Vittal and not give chance to suhana. I would request them to please check few of our forum's previous posts, you will know how much love we showered on those characters.
For me, I would only pray no one should get a mother like Kamala, nor a father like vittal(vittal was kind of good father, but only thing which irks me is he puts kamla infront of everybody, atleast once we expected him to support his daughter Kalpana) in both reel and real life.
My POV on Raghav character, post may 9th after Raghav and Pakhi maarage, there is no difference between an object and Raghav, he was lifeless clueless confused soul. His character was butchered to such an level that now I would say Raghav is worst of all male leads in Indian television histroy. Ashish has utterly failed to impress us as Raghav, post Raghav and Pakhi marriage.
Comming to Kaplana, post sindoor marriage with raghav, we never ever blindly defended Kalpana for that particular bit. Most of us are completely against that marraige. We never were ready to consider Kalpana as second women in Raghav's life. Few of us believed Raghav and Pakhi marriage was fake(coz makers never showed any clip, where Raghav married Pakhi, its only verbally said by characters) so supporeted Kalpana's love. But again most of us wanted Raghav and Kalpana to be together with dignity.
Cvs butuchered Kalpana's character also to an extent, post Raghav Pakhi marriage, again most of us were unhappy with Kalpana's attitude towards Raghav. CVS disappointed us, by making Kalpana a doormat, waitress, and in some scenes they also made her a dumb character. But we still were connected to Kalpana coz CVS didn't change the nature and essence of this character. Still she had self-respect, self-confidence and zeal in her to achieve something big in her life.
Hope now I clear doubts why am I so connected with Kalpana, though I disagree with some changes, But Kalpana character's nature and essence was maintained throughout the show till revamp.
Now about my opinion on Suhana's CHARACTER:
I wanted to know, how Suhana's CHARACTER is portrayed in EMA post revamp?? I watched EMA episode to see how CVS are proceeding with revamp and the new Characters, just gave chance to EMA to see this new replacement in different angle.
So before forming any opinion, on suhana CHARACTER, I made an effort to first go and watch episode of Suhana, though I can't afford to watch Kamla on Screen( Most of us can't tolerate kamla anymore, we tolerated her only in a hope to see our beloved couple Raghav and Kalpana would unite in future).
I made a genuine effort from my side, by watching EMA show again, after that I made that post to share my POV on Suhana CHARACTER.
I didn't have much expectations on other characters nor CVS creativity, but only expected they would portray Suhana CHARACTER properly at least after revamp.
But again EMA NEVER FAILS TO DISAPPOINT ITS VIEWERS.
A simple basic expectation from Suhana character was, she should at least resemble like Kalpana, coz for an OLD EMA VIEWER(people who watched EMA before revamp) Suhana is just a new name given to Kalpana's character with a new face after revamp.
Though, due to memory loss suhana might be clueless now, but some expect the nature and essence of Kalpana to be maintained.
And coming to the point, while comparing Suhana with Pakhi, I clearly mentioned Suhana resembled like Pakhi BEFORE MARRIAGE. Pakhi was introduced as lively rich girl who overly cared Kamla, always had a smile on her face. (FYI : Before-marriage Pakhi was positive character, but dumb most of the time, she was not vamp. but after marriage, CVS turned her negative)
CVS butchered Suhana (Kalpana) character by making her another Pakhi. Now Suhana is rich lively girl who cares kamla just like Pakhi, which we already watched in EMA, So there is nothing new about this revamp and Suhana character. We never liked Pakhi and Kamla relation coz Kalpana was always neglected, but here Kalpana itself is in pakhi's place, so disliking Suhana is out of question. But Suhana acting like Pakhi is my main objection.
Next question was giving time to Suhana:
If anyone meant giving time to Asha as Suhana, I want clear one thing, Asha is an experienced actress not a newcomer, She's doing her job as per CVS instructions, so the question of giving time to Asha, doesn't arise at all. Its Cvs fault, not Asha's, for ruining Suhana CHARACTER. But at the same time, I can't praise Asha, for Suhana's CHARACTER. coz to praise her we need to re-connect with Character in first place.
Now giving time to Suhana CHARACTER, For an old ema viewer like me Suhana is not a new character, to give time to see how this character evolves, its just a new name given to an old character Kalpana. Aryan is a new character, I can give time to see how this character evolve.
But again keeping "Memory loss criteria" in mind, I thought not to jump into conclusion so soon, that's the reason I mentioned "CVS MAY MOULD SUHANA CHARACTER IN FUTURE" in my post, But most of the OLD EMA VIEWERS lost our hopes on EMA, so have nil expectations of CVS.
Though, due to memory loss suhana might be clueless now, but some expect the nature and essence of Kalpana to be maintained.
And coming to the point, while comparing Suhana with Pakhi, I clearly mentioned Suhana resembled like Pakhi BEFORE MARRIAGE. Pakhi was introduced as lively rich girl who overly cared Kamla, always had a smile on her face. (FYI : Before-marriage Pakhi was positive character, but dumb most of the time, she was not vamp. but after marriage, CVS turned her negative)
CVS butchered Suhana (Kalpana) character by making her another Pakhi. Now Suhana is rich lively girl who cares kamla just like Pakhi, which we already watched in EMA, So there is nothing new about this revamp and Suhana character. We never liked Pakhi and Kamla relation coz Kalpana was always neglected, but here Kalpana itself is in pakhi's place, so disliking Suhana is out of question. But Suhana acting like Pakhi is my main objection.
Next question was giving time to Suhana:
If anyone meant giving time to Asha as Suhana, I want clear one thing, Asha is an experienced actress not a newcomer, She's doing her job as per CVS instructions, so the question of giving time to Asha, doesn't arise at all. Its Cvs fault, not Asha's, for ruining Suhana CHARACTER. But at the same time, I can't praise Asha, for Suhana's CHARACTER. coz to praise her we need to re-connect with Character in first place.
Now giving time to Suhana CHARACTER, For an old ema viewer like me Suhana is not a new character, to give time to see how this character evolves, its just a new name given to an old character Kalpana. Aryan is a new character, I can give time to see how this character evolve.
But again keeping "Memory loss criteria" in mind, I thought not to jump into conclusion so soon, that's the reason I mentioned "CVS MAY MOULD SUHANA CHARACTER IN FUTURE" in my post, But most of the OLD EMA VIEWERS lost our hopes on EMA, so have nil expectations of CVS.
So for me Suhana CHARACTER is disappointment from EMA
My clarification on other issues, which we discussed in my post
Regarding Suhana's voice : In many shows, we witnessed actor/actress replacement happens overnight. But show's other characters,help viewers to re-connect with character(who's actor is been replaced) again and they help to fill the gap which replacement left behind. Though actor is changed character remains same. So we expected Kamala, as a mother should recognize her daughter's voice. By this we meant to say, how can plastic surgery change voice of her daughter (please note Suhana is Kalpana with new identity, And as a mother Kamla heard kalpana's voice for more than 20 years, so she should recognize her voice now also. This is a blooper from EMA side).
Regarding Earring, Pakhi bedroom and Reusing sets : This topics again was misinterpreted , each and every show has bloopers, EMA also has so many bloopers, we make fun posts on such topics to have fun. Its not only Suhana's character, we also made fun posts on Kalpana's belongings also.
And finally regarding one comment in particular, where they mentioned stay-out of this discussion, I personally felt it was inappropriate to comment in that manner. So I'm sorry of behalf of that member, to all those who felt offended with that particular comment.
Regarding Earring, Pakhi bedroom and Reusing sets : This topics again was misinterpreted , each and every show has bloopers, EMA also has so many bloopers, we make fun posts on such topics to have fun. Its not only Suhana's character, we also made fun posts on Kalpana's belongings also.
And finally regarding one comment in particular, where they mentioned stay-out of this discussion, I personally felt it was inappropriate to comment in that manner. So I'm sorry of behalf of that member, to all those who felt offended with that particular comment.
I sincerely request, all members, to please consider others POV (whether you agree or disagree), at least make an attempt to understand others person's view, before jumping into conclusions or condemn other's POV.
Thank you all for reading my post so patiently, and sorry for such lengthy post
Hope I clarified things from my side, please leave your comments
Thank you all for reading my post so patiently, and sorry for such lengthy post
Hope I clarified things from my side, please leave your comments
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