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awida

@awida

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Posted: 11 years ago

Hello DDBEDSians. 😊

I am trying to understand many things about daily soaps. What works for them? What doesn't? How to make them last long? When it is better to close them?and other things..

I'v just watched 2 daily soaps , non of them complete a year.😕 I am not satisfied with the way they ended by. 😡

I'v watched few American daily soaps which are still running since many years like: The Bold and the beautiful,. I think they are successful , coz they have many sub plots, each character has some thing to do. There are many shades in each character, which makes twists and turns justified. Leaps come naturally when you feel it is the right time to move on with the story. Introducing new characters doesn't come on the cost of the main leads. And many other things which keep viewers interested.😃

Coming to Indian daily soaps. There are many of them which ran for more than 5 years. Many others which are running successfully. Some which are running forcibly , coz whenever I visit those forums I find many members asking for closer .😆

I think some shows has to be made for a limited time . Like shows which are inspired by novels ..such as Saraswatichandra and Tumhari Paakhi. Or love stories. You know for a love story to leave a strong impact it is better to end it soon. Like : Iss Pyar Ko Kia Naam Doon, Geet, and Punaar Vivah. Keeping them long running will spoil the main story which happened with Madhubala. Even Qubool Hai which is still running successfully has to kill its leads and start a new love story to succeed. 😃

For DDBEDS I think running for a year could be enough. If cvs managed to speed the story, ignore unnesessory characters , and tracks. We may have the leads falling in love in the first 9 months. Then how they pass the challenges in their life. Then comes happy ending. No leaps, no actor replacements, no quits, no lead die. No viewers complains . 😃

I hope one day Indian producers and channels learn how to please viwers by the way they end the shows. And give a limited time to each show according to its story. So that many new shows come. Change happens , and actors find new shows to act in.😊

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Renuka

@Renu111

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Posted: 11 years ago

nice post awida ...u have done a good analysis... 👏 and agree with you daily soap should decided timeline for themselves . becaz after one end viewers may get bored.About love stories i feel most of the viewers like love hate type stories means where the leads char r not in love bt hate each other.viewers like their nok zok.and when they fall in love it is difficult for writer to keep the story alive.again i will give an example of pratigya ...once producer pearl grey said that it is hard to maintain storyline storyline after love confession.and american serials storyline is far different from indian soaps.and you know i knew two marathi serials which run hardly one year means actors producer knew the end of the story and one is suspense thriller and one is based on marriage and there was no villian and i love that serial.and these both serials telecasted on zee marathi.dont why hindi serials doesnt follow this formula.

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sanitha

@sanitha7

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Posted: 11 years ago

thanks awida gud post ,

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Manisha Sinha

@ArhanAngadholic

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Posted: 11 years ago

yup smwhere I agree wid u after love confession they keep of dragging storyline unnecessarily I watched MKAP n Bidaai before DDBEDS n in both show I feel the same In MKAP after love confession they keep on dragging story wid aRushi saga n in bidaai after love confession they killed the lead n started there own nautanki after dat

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rekrn

@rekrn

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Posted: 11 years ago

Nice Post Itidal😊

My views

I used to watch American Soaps but when they got rid of one of my favorite couples I stopped watching many years ago. They don't have leaps in American soaps so the word leap was surprising to me when I heard it mentioned on Indian Soaps. In American soaps they have what they term "SORAS" means Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome. One day the child might be a year old and the next they could be 6 without much of an explanation and no timeline change in the story it continues from where it left of the previous day.😆 Usually in American soaps they have an good outline of where they want the show to go and most shows are taped 3-4 months in advanced. I think American Soaps have a tendency to show things which is more acceptable in the states they are more liberal with what they show. Whereas there is more scrutiny on what can be shown on Indian Soaps, which to me is what made me attracted to Indian Soaps.

IMO Indian Soaps have main idea about what they want to show but haven't really always worked out the specific details. Like in MKAP the main concept was a man falling in love with a girl who hates him and eventually falls for him. Once that was shown they had no idea of what to do so they drag the scenes until the confession happens even in DDBEDS it was a love story but it took so many months to get Shivani to realize her feelings and if the show hadn't ended It would have taken even longer for Raghu to confess his feelings. BOth of these shows had so much more potential. It amazes me at times that the members of the forums have better ideas on how to proceed with the show then sometimes the CV's. I also think the channel is more involved with the Indian Soaps then American and that's why I think you see the story change all of the sudden.

In American Soaps you have villains but to me they are not as irritating as some of the one's on Indian Soaps. Sometimes I think maybe the director has them behave that way, they can be over the top.

Completely agree with you about the cancellation here at least not even soaps but shows usually know a few months in advance or even earlier whether this will be the last year and they can plan some good ending with some logic. Indian soaps from what has been my experience are lucky if they get even a month to rap up the storyline some get only a few weeks and then the story line is rushed and the last few episodes are not focused on the leads.

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Agnes

@agbabe

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Posted: 11 years ago

Thanks Awida...very interesting topic to share.

i have watched number of American shows since a kid i.e., Dynasty, Dallas, The Sin and of course B&B. Of lately i'm following The Walking Dead.

it is very true they don't have a leap in their shows but use the same leads with almost 3-12 months gap to show the ageing of a person. Though there are illogicality but usually they stay inline with the flow of the story.

And few Tamil serials i know have dragged to 3 to 5 years...seriously i don't have that much of patience to watch such too.

the only setback i saw in our show was not Shi's love phase but Raghu's confession. I knew this guy was head over in love with Shi when he saved her from falling from the pit at the picnic. There was many opportunities for CVs to show this but they failed miserably by focusing on other stuffs. IF the writer was a great person she/he should have know the flow of the show and the audience needs.

They could have introduced Rag's confession and continue on how ppl with different status struggle in their daily life's with only LOVE as their only wealth. this would have been interesting and logic to watch.

not like Bela forcing Raghu to confess etc. That's where most Indian serials/movies fail as they tend to go around the bush by bringing a lot of illogical senses to us viewers.

It may have worked 20 years back...but i think we the newer generations are smarter and expect simple and logic story line.

DDBEDS was killed by none other then the Writer, CV, PH whom ever you name them.😡

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awida

@awida

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Renu111
nice post awida ...u have done a good analysis... 👏
Thank you Renu.😳

and agree with you daily soap should decided timeline for themselves . becaz after one end viewers may get bored.About love stories i feel most of the viewers like love hate type stories means where the leads char r not in love bt hate each other.viewers like their nok zok.

I agree with you. This kind of shows attracts viewers. But , it was refreshing to watch another love story which starts with respect and understanding , then friendship. DDBEDS showed that this is a new formula which may click if writers give it a try.😉

and when they fall in love it is difficult for writer to keep the story alive.again i will give an example of pratigya ...once producer pearl grey said that it is hard to maintain storyline storyline after love confession.

Agree with you . I am from these ppl who loose interest after love confession. But , I was curios to know how will Raghu treat Shivani after he confessed his love with her. How could he romance her? Won't daaju's memories hint him sometimes? Raghu can't change this easy.😆

and american serials storyline is far different from indian soaps.and you know i knew two marathi serials which run hardly one year means actors producer knew the end of the story and one is suspense thriller and one is based on marriage and there was no villian and i love that serial

I too hate villains. Story can be told without villains. Look at the success of Hum Aapki Hai Kaun. This movie worked , and how! Without any villains. Just be true to the story. You don't need to force villains every where. DDBEDS didn't need Sumitra. Coz Raghu's prejudice played the main difficulty for him to accept Shivani's love .😕

.and these both serials telecasted on zee marathi.dont why hindi serials doesnt follow this formula.

Sadly Indian shows has to end either with low TRPs, or with viewers hating these shows after many twists and turns, or when new shows are coming , so that channels has to end the show without giving a chance to wrap up.

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awida

@awida

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sanitha7
thanks awida gud post ,

You are welcome Sanitha.😃

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awida

@awida

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArhanAngadholic
yup smwhere I agree wid u after love confession they keep of dragging storyline unnecessarily I watched MKAP n Bidaai before DDBEDS n in both show I feel the same In MKAP after love confession they keep on dragging story wid aRushi saga n in bidaai after love confession they killed the lead n started there own nautanki after dat

Thanks for comment Mannu.😊

I understand why cvs can't move on with the story of leads after love confession , and they focus on other characters. They go out of ideas it seems. But there are lots of shows which are running successfully after leads settled in happy marriages. And that too without seperating them.😆 Cvs have just to seek inspiration from real life where ppl live togather happily , and have lots of challenges in life. The main problem is that if cvs don't have good ideas they have to admit it. Closing the show before making drastic changes may let viewers down, but it is better than making them hating those shows and their beloved characters.