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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wait, what nonsense are they showing?

Both the cousin brothers found only one girl in the world to fall for, who is in fact their first cousin? Bobby likes Trisha too? What kind of crap is this? I know such relationships are known to exist in many families, but having two male cousins fall for the same girl is so far fetched.

And I know that when parents are first exposed to any horrific truth about their children, their first reaction is to defend their child. But I hope Amrita, if not Prateek, later on have the insight that their daughter is equally to blame for the incestuous relationship with Vivaan. He wasn't molesting her, they were making out. Whole lot of difference.

I read the spoilers of the spanish show and seems like this one is completely copied from that. Prateek does turn out to have a relationship with his secretary. So I guess, I even know the future twists of the show. Losing interest, as this is turning into more of a weird, illicit relationship story instead of being a crime thriller.

Kabeer, as the chief investigative officer should have let the parents know about Vivaan and Trisha and the video as well as his interrogation with Vivaan. He is not a psychologist who has to keep his conversation with clients confidential because they demand so. Just because Vivaan told him to not let anyone know doesn't mean Kabeer should keep his word. Every little information he gains, and shares with the parents, might help the parents nad him to figure the intricacies of why Trisha has disappeared and who might be behind it.

I understand that this show is about new concepts and showing reality, but it's trying very hard to show every possible angle in the same family.

Sister and business partner extra marital affair.
Husband and secretary extra marital affair
Male cousin and female cousin affair.
Brother and friend gay relationship.

Next possibly is uncle and Trisha relationship or abuse. What more is left?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's true find very odd to c both the cousin brothers who are at the position of a brother having an affair
Many extra marital affairs
I know this kind of affairs do exist & we have heard about it
All together it's difficult to digest
But I guess that's what the show is about
If its per Spanish story then v can c kabir Amrita will develop feelings for each other but they won't be together
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Completely agree with you that it is a bit far-fetched! I have no problem with them showing bold relationships, but it's a bit far-fetched that ALL of it is happening in the same family. Like you said, they are trying too hard to show all angles happening within the same family. But I guess they have to do this to make a daily soap focusing on one particular family.

Vivaan and Bobby BOTH being in love with Trisha is really far-fetched though. Trisha seems like a really mean person anyways. The way she treated Meghan says a lot about her personality. And in general from flashbacks, she seems... i'm not sure what word to use without using offensive language. But I think it's really far-fatched that TWO of her male cousins would fall for her. BOTH of them ignoring boundaries of the "cousin" relationship, BOTH of them falling in love with same cousin, and that too a cousin who's pretty bitchy and mean and nothing special.. too far-fetched for me to digest.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks tani and Az07 for your replies.

There are a lot of loopholes that they need to cover as well. It really started off being very interesting, but now it just seems like more than findinf Trisha, the story is about unearthing all these weird relationships between all the family members.

They saw a video of Trisha removing money from the ATM bank herself. Kabeer should be thinking that this could be a plot by Trisha herself too? Especially after figuring out the happenings of that night. This disappearance can have so many angles and yet they are concentrating on only one, which is Prateek and his enemies.

What is to note is that the kidnapper called Prateek, after the news of his daughter missing was published in the newspaper. This should put Kabeer in a spot where he should think that this kidnapper could only be trying to make money out of a news story, without even having Trisha.

What happened to investigating more into why Bobby claims he sent that threatening message to Trisha from the PC? He is taking it on face value when both brothers claim that they did not have anything to do with her disappearance, when infact they both were the last ones to have seen her that night. Bobby, is no doodh ka dhula either. He took a video of his cousins making out. Like, why would he do that? Only to show it to the parents later as revenge? What does that say about his personality?

Why is no one keeping a watch on Vivaan either? He was typically the last one to be with Trisha, has just confessed to having an illicit relationship with her and is simply let of because he claims he didn't do anything to make her disappear? When, we are shown that he does drug deals and slyly keeps a watch on the investigations spying on the talks between elders and having an underhand agenda which is not spelled out completely yet. Kabeer, needs to be shown to have more sense than this.

Also, Prateek is coming across as shady. I don't understand how he slams Kabeer all the time, when he is the chief officer handling his daughter's case. I can understand him not liking the way Kabeer speaks, but hiding things from him, belittling his investigation, always asking him to go away instead of letting him do his interrogations, is so random. Why is this not being picked up by Kabeer as some sign of restlessness or insecurity in Prateek? Prateek sure is afraid of Kabeer finding out about something, maybe his affair or something else. But, he shows clear signs of being afraid around Kabeer.

I don't know, this show needs to step up it's game big time. The actors are all so brilliant, but we need to see more logic and reality going on.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pari87


There are a lot of loopholes that they need to cover as well. It really started off being very interesting, but now it just seems like more than findinf Trisha, the story is about unearthing all these weird relationships between all the family members. I feel that they are going to cover everything slowly. The show hasn't lost its pace. It's still at the same pace and slowly things are unraveling. And I remember reading an interview where Bhagyashree or Eijaz Khan or maybe it was one of the producers said that this show isn't just a crime thriller, but it's about relationships and how secrets start pouring out when something like this happens in a supposed picture perfect family.

They saw a video of Trisha removing money from the ATM bank herself. Kabeer should be thinking that this could be a plot by Trisha herself too? Especially after figuring out the happenings of that night. This disappearance can have so many angles and yet they are concentrating on only one, which is Prateek and his enemies. This is usually the way a police officer goes. They have to concentrate on one angle at a time. If they only had that video then they would have concentrated on that. But then the kidnapper called and the investigation had to turn to the idea that maybe someone has kidnapped Trisha. When they realize that this isn't true they'll turn back to the video once again.

What is to note is that the kidnapper called Prateek, after the news of his daughter missing was published in the newspaper. This should put Kabeer in a spot where he should think that this kidnapper could only be trying to make money out of a news story, without even having Trisha. Okay let's suppose he had thought that and told the kidnapper to do what he wanted. Then Trisha's dead body turns up on the Swaika's doorsteps. What next? Don't you think the Swaikas would blame Kabir for not taking the kidnapper's threats seriously and letting them give him the money?

What happened to investigating more into why Bobby claims he sent that threatening message to Trisha from the PC? He is taking it on face value when both brothers claim that they did not have anything to do with her disappearance, when infact they both were the last ones to have seen her that night. Bobby, is no doodh ka dhula either. He took a video of his cousins making out. Like, why would he do that? Only to show it to the parents later as revenge? What does that say about his personality? Technically Bobby has only told Prateek and Amrita. And Prateek was never in a mood to share anything with Kabir and in everything that is happening maybe Amrita forgot. As for Bobby, I feel there are still many layers to reveal about him. Slowly and surely we'll see the true story behind everything. What I find interesting is that the video is exactly how it was shot onscreen for us to see as part of Bobby's memory. Practically speaking the video should be shaky, from far away, and maybe even shifting away at times to show a real hidden video.

Why is no one keeping a watch on Vivaan either? He was typically the last one to be with Trisha, has just confessed to having an illicit relationship with her and is simply let of because he claims he didn't do anything to make her disappear? When, we are shown that he does drug deals and slyly keeps a watch on the investigations spying on the talks between elders and having an underhand agenda which is not spelled out completely yet. Kabeer, needs to be shown to have more sense than this. Once again the kidnapper takes priority. Yes Vivan was the last one to see Trisha and yes he confessed, but at the same time a kidnapper has just called to say that he has Trisha. Everything else can wait. It's important first to find this kidnapper and Trisha and save Trisha.

Also, Prateek is coming across as shady. I don't understand how he slams Kabeer all the time, when he is the chief officer handling his daughter's case. I can understand him not liking the way Kabeer speaks, but hiding things from him, belittling his investigation, always asking him to go away instead of letting him do his interrogations, is so random. Why is this not being picked up by Kabeer as some sign of restlessness or insecurity in Prateek? Prateek sure is afraid of Kabeer finding out about something, maybe his affair or something else. But, he shows clear signs of being afraid around Kabeer. I fully agree here. Prateek is hiding something big time and that's why he's always after Kabir to stay away from the investigation. What I don't get is why he even bothered going to the police in the first place if he didn't want them interfering!

I don't know, this show needs to step up it's game big time. The actors are all so brilliant, but we need to see more logic and reality going on.



Please see my comments in blue. They're not meant to attack what you're saying. I'm just giving my opinion and how I see things on your points.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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illicit relationships do exist...and no police does not consider all the angles at once they take one and eliminate it later and regarding kabir hiding the fact about vivaan and trisha, he may have used it as a bait to make vivaan confess other things
Though you have put up an excellent argument...it is an indian fiction which for the first time is dealing with real human emotions... and i find it remarkable
cheers
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Posted: 11 years ago
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why do u watch it in the first place anyways the very first promo said that when the case will be investigated all the dark secrets of this family will come out. bhagyashree stands up and says she is fine with it.
i got intrigued with the first promo itself...so m watching it without having complaints
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Posted: 11 years ago
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and one more thing most of the shows on indian television are CRAP and beyond disgust..and the audience too which enjoys tht yes m generalizing u can report me for this...but its a fact.if a show tht comes and break all stereotypes and different then all the other cheap shows should stop either..the love story or what ever crap they show..tht doesn't happen in real lives either. don't want into get into this..otherwise a huge batlte with members joining from all the forum shall begin which i don't want.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RheaSingh

why do u watch it in the first place anyways the very first promo said that when the case will be investigated all the dark secrets of this family will come out. bhagyashree stands up and says she is fine with it.

i got intrigued with the first promo itself...so m watching it without having complaints


I don;t know why you are taking this so personally. I simply shared my views on a show that interested me. I understand family secrets come out, but all secrets seem to be about illicit relationships they all have and it's frankly a bit far fetched to me. Secrets can be very different kinds as well, but they only deal with random relationships everyone seems to be having. This is my opinion and I am entitled to complain or rant as a viewer.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhotaSikaShreya

I feel that they are going to cover everything slowly. The show hasn't lost its pace. It's still at the same pace and slowly things are unraveling. And I remember reading an interview where Bhagyashree or Eijaz Khan or maybe it was one of the producers said that this show isn't just a crime thriller, but it's about relationships and how secrets start pouring out when something like this happens in a supposed picture perfect family.

This is usually the way a police officer goes. They have to concentrate on one angle at a time. If they only had that video then they would have concentrated on that. But then the kidnapper called and the investigation had to turn to the idea that maybe someone has kidnapped Trisha. When they realize that this isn't true they'll turn back to the video once again.

Okay let's suppose he had thought that and told the kidnapper to do what he wanted. Then Trisha's dead body turns up on the Swaika's doorsteps. What next? Don't you think the Swaikas would blame Kabir for not taking the kidnapper's threats seriously and letting them give him the money?

Technically Bobby has only told Prateek and Amrita. And Prateek was never in a mood to share anything with Kabir and in everything that is happening maybe Amrita forgot. As for Bobby, I feel there are still many layers to reveal about him. Slowly and surely we'll see the true story behind everything. What I find interesting is that the video is exactly how it was shot onscreen for us to see as part of Bobby's memory. Practically speaking the video should be shaky, from far away, and maybe even shifting away at times to show a real hidden video.

Once again the kidnapper takes priority. Yes Vivan was the last one to see Trisha and yes he confessed, but at the same time a kidnapper has just called to say that he has Trisha. Everything else can wait. It's important first to find this kidnapper and Trisha and save Trisha.

I fully agree here. Prateek is hiding something big time and that's why he's always after Kabir to stay away from the investigation. What I don't get is why he even bothered going to the police in the first place if he didn't want them interfering!

Please see my comments in blue. They're not meant to attack what you're saying. I'm just giving my opinion and how I see things on your points.



Hi,
I appreciate your comments. When given an alternate view, you learn to look at the same thing in a different angle, so I am happy to read your comments and have that different angle to view things.

I agree that the makers are trying to show what happens when such a twist occurs and the image of the perfect family breaks. It is infact interesting to see the different facets that have come out sicne her disappearance. My only grouse is that all the facets seems to be illegitimate relationships. There are so many different "secrets" that could be unearthed, a different shade to a family member, but the focus is only on extra marital affairs.

As for the investigation, I don't say that don't follow up on the kidnapper and his calls. Of course that has to be taken as seriously, but when they reached the first venue and found that empty dummy lookalike of Trisha, Kabeer should have given it a thought in his head at least and had other officers keep an eye on other suspects like Vivaan.

I am most intrigued about Prateek, as I don't understand his reactions to Kabeer. He seems to hate the guy without any reason. But, I guess his affair with the secretary could be behind his discomfiture about the investigation.


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