Raman' Motivation - Obsession/Love For Adi Or Guilt? - Page 3

Originally posted by: shalu79

good post.

Do agree with u.

But still sometimes I feel do cvs also think so much.

I think we invest too much emotions in thinking n justifying each n every aspect but they only think in d point of view creating drama n trp.

most of the time they forget simple things n change it according to their convinence.

simplest example i can give here is on which floor do Bhalla family stays.

1) they showed it their flat on first floor when Ishu was taking pooja for delivery Mr. N Mrs Bhalla were talkin g to Romi from First floor.

2) when that theif came it was on 3rd floor.

3) 2days back when Raman was feeling guilty after Ruhi n Ishu said sorry to him he came out for file that time it looked like it was ground flr.

I know u will wonder in why I am ranting abt this things here.

but I feels like a dejected fan. The way they r butchering Raman's character it's really feel sad to see it.

Hope today they don't show Raman without trying to come towards Ishu to speak drives off.

Thanks for this post Anni

Originally posted by: telly_j

Yeah Raman is right in helping adi...no second thoughts about that ...but his hiding the whole truth from Ishita is disturbing...WHY??...all along she helped him deal with adi and also encouraged him to be courteous to Shagun...and now on shagun's insistence all Ishu's past good deeds are forgotten...and he decides since she is not adi's natural mom she might not understand...I just wish he had used his brain for once and given Ishu a chance...he wld have discovered that not only her thoughts but her actions are noble too

Originally posted by: serendipity.

Beautiful post Aani! Absolutely agree.

first thing first 😲😲😲 Reens you made a reply and one that is this long 😆😆 OMGG on a serious note thanks for this reply hon 😊

It IS Love and Guilt together... but yes, Guilt... DEFO there... thats the driving force of his actions actually. I would like to see the heights that Raman can go to though... i mean he HAS wronged his son one way or another... deliberately or not... but he has... even now... by saving his apparently murderous mom and his exwife, hes doing wrong AGAIN... and he WILL realise... bas Ishita ko truth pata lagne ki der hai...

Yep its guilt working there and also perhaps the fact his son has ASKED of him for something finally after so long and right now that is all that matters to him, he couldnt fulfill the wishes/demands of his son before because he didnt have the means and now when he has got the chance to do so all he knows is he has to do this he isnt thinking right or wrong here but yes this demand of his son is wrong but does love work on logic?

Whatever hes doing for Adi IS out of guilt more than love. Because he loves Ruhi too... cant be that he intentionally treats them differently, he just knows that with ishita being there, their family is complete,

exactly he is secured on Ruhi' front because he has Ishita he trusts her with his daughter blindly but he feels his son needs someone to look over him rem the scene where Bala said his uniform wasnt of the right size he was so disturbed because he felt even the little things that can be done right are not being done properly for Adi

Ruhi hasnt ever gone away from him, nor will she ever go... Adi on the other hand... has always gone away from him and whenever he has had that tinge of hope that maybe he is finally getting some of his son back, he drifts away... he is scared again that Adi will grow further apart and away from him... that fear, and that guilt of what HIS personal life has brought upon on his son... make him take these insane, hasty decisions and steps that he will realize the fault of sooner or later.

Well Ruhi did go away from him once and he broke down finally even agreed to marry Ishita for that but she came back, he got a chance to fight with her and won that fight too but with Adi his chance is lost and now that he has some way finally to do something for his son he isnt thinking but when he does it would kill him for sure

But again, since he thinks that he himself and his son adi have been unfortunate enough, and not had The kind of relationship they should have had... he, in his guilt wants to do extra... to probably cover up for that... also to perhaps make up for all the years he has missed being with his son... also, since here, the son hates and literally detests his dad so much, so obviously Raman wants to take extreme steps and try harder

exactly! the more badly you want something the harder you try to attain it and that is happening here he wants his son' love so much he is doing even whats morally wrong despite knowing it because what he wants is above right or wrong to him

, like he does with Ruhi too, when she is upset with him...

exactly normally a father is all soft for his daughter but here since the son makes him be this crazy its taken otherwise but the truth is for Ruhi his love is as much too just the only extreme he had to do for her was marry Ishita - a decision which worked in his favor. And anything he does for Adi comes to bit him back in the ass since well... his son makes him do whats wrong things like the apology thing but once he realized that he made sure during the bullying issue Adi apologized to everyone

the only problem and difference is, Ruhi's innocence is intact inspite of all that has happened, whereas Adi... he has lost all his innocence, and true, as you said... thanks to Ishita and Raman's loving family, Ruhi didnt have to/get to see or experience the worst in this phase, also because she was so young... whereas Adi... well he got to see and experience the worst. Moreover, his naive and young mind was brutally manipulated amidst all that drama/phase.

Yep Ruhi came out with minor injuries compared to her bro who was brutally injured in the process for his sake I hope he is influenced by Ishita

Originally posted by: pomegranate

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Aani, from the beginning I thought his feelings were love mixed in with a lot guilt. He feels responsible for what his son has become, he feels guilty about not being able to fight for him all those years ago. I never condemned him for loving is son unconditionally, but the foolish mistakes he is making is astonishing.

I just need this track to end, it is giving me a headache

Originally posted by: Metamorphmagus

Good post Aani! You are right. This entire obsession is because of that guilt and helplessness he feels. But, as a normally sensible person, we expect something different from Raman. No one is against him showering all that love. He needs to be strict if the situation demands. That's all!

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

Hey Aani...
connect for sure 😛

Hey Lucky hi5 😛

this is exactly what I said to Isha on one of her posts a couple of days ago (Isha's topic instigated my comment, before the Neil discussion)>> Raman's knee jerk reaction was to protect his child. But since the first spontaneous reaction , he's been doing everything because he feels guilty (he calls it love for Adi, which I am sure also is a factor). He feels responsible for Adi turning out to be a monster (for a lack of better word) EVEN if Raman is not involved in his day-to-day upbringing and maybe BECAUSE Raman is not involved in his day-to-day upbringing he feels guilty.

exactly he is trying to compensate for what he feels he should have been able to do for his son and for that he is overcompensating without thinking in the slightest what is he doing

Of course, Raman's guilt is technically unwarranted, but thats what every parent would do right? Even 'normal' parents from happy families feel guilty (mostly masked with shame) if their child does something incomprehensible. And Raman's family isnt anywhere near normal.

Even though the separation, the divorce and Adi's custody are NOT his fault at all, Raman still feels guilty. BEcause eventually he feels responsible for his child.

exactly as a parent you feel responsible for all acts committed by your child even if you arent the culprit/wrongdoer technically since you feel its your duty to teach them things and the failure on your part to do so has manifested into your child doing what he/she did.

Of course, this doesnt show up in his relation with Ruhi, because whether he showed love to her or not, he's been involved in her life. He's seen her grow up to be a 'good' kid.

true Ruhi has had a lot of good things in life and he is basically very secured about her but Adi is his weakness because he feels worried about him more than Ruhi he knows Ruhi has people around her - two homes now his son on the other hand is all alone

Gosh, as I type this, I realise that this could also become a cause of resentment between the two siblings (but thats for another post, another day!)

LOL would be some post Lucky but wow would love to see something on these lines 😈

"Guilt is anger directed at ourselves" - Peter McWilliams

Originally posted by: rockstar29

Both guilty of hiding the matter with ishu and obsession with adi for love and and his obsession to hate shagun .