Raman' Motivation - Obsession/Love For Adi Or Guilt?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay so I am one of those people who is immensely tired of this track; I am sure that is a common sentiment among many of us but the reason that prompted me to make this post is a simple one - trying to understand RKB and the acts of his (almost) insanity.
I didn't pick this up almost immediately but last night' episode somehow struck a chord with me, the scene which I am speaking about in this post is that of Raman and Neil in his chambers where Neil asks to speak privately with Raman.

I couldn't understand why that scene had me rattled until I watched it again with a calmer (read less pissed off) mindset did it occur to me what actually made me sorta uneasy about the scene. It was Neil' question to Raman where he wanted to make sure Raman wants to help his ex and Raman' reply to him. Now last night all I could hear was him going on his Adi track once again.

But on a replay what struck me was one sentence by Raman - Adi being disturbed about the divorce between his parents.

True we have seen less of the kid and aren't any fan of his but that one statement does have a resonance... Adi would have suffered a lot at the fragile age of 6 or 7, watching his parents get divorced, being questioned by lawyers about how his dad and mom behave with him and such, getting shifted from a home where he lived with his family - where everyone naturally loved and doted on him to a place full of servants, who would abide his orders but naturally not love him.

Recently in the scene with Bala we saw how even his dresses are ordered in the wrong size - that is a very small thing, knowing the size of your child' dress and yet even that couldn't be picked right by his mom who is such a social butterfly.

I am not trying to defend/justify Raman here but somehow it now occurs to me perhaps it isn't the blind love or the obsession of a father that is making him do crazy things which are bound to come back and bite him in the ass - his actions, all of them have their roots perhaps in the guilt that Raman feels as a father, as a man who feels he let down his child. Shagun left him for another man because he wasn't ambitious enough then, didn't make as much money as she thought he should/could have. Post their split that has become the sole focus of RKB - making more money, being more successful, more powerful than Ashok. All of which has got nothing to do with showing Ashok and Shagun what he is capable of but more likely him trying to be the father who could have had his way and kept back his son. Raman was proven weaker and was defeated in the court when the false accusation of being a parent who abuses his child was proven against him all because Ashok could afford a better, smarter lawyer because he had the means to do so.

Raman lost even though he wasn't in the wrong because he had no power back then - to fight back or even prove his innocence.

Somehow all his insane acts now which are focused on his son are borne from that guilt he feels I think. Yes Ruhi was abandoned as a baby by her mom but think about it - till Ishita entered her life she might not have had as loving and caring a parent but she GREW up in a household where she was loved by every member and NEVER had her mom and dad together, yes it affected and impacted her as we saw. But Ruhi never witnessed the ugly fights Adi was unfortunate to have, she wasn't sent packing to a hostel where perhaps life would have been made even a bigger hell with bullies who might have taunted and been cruel to make ridicule of her parent' divorce.

In a way even though Ruhi has suffered the consequence of her parents being divorced she has been saved from the worst of it. I don't know how far along right I am about this theory but somehow it seems fitting to me.

Sometimes there are no justifications or reasoning's or even explanations for certain things - acts committed out of love and guilt can be only understood with the heart and not the mind.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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very nice observation anni. yes he said adi is disturbed by their divorce and its very realistic child gets affected by parents differences. and raman felt he is weaker than ashok to whom adi has more respect just because he has given him luxury life . and may be raman wants to prove and wants to get back adi s love showing that his father has now some capability to keep him happy ( am not talking in terms of show off but his way to get back his son so take it as positive) and he wants to come out from that guilt in this way. may be ...
Edited by ZenerDiode - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is what I feel since the beginning. In this issue he isn't thinking right or wrong or even giving in just to get brownie points from his son...NO...I have said in previous posts of mine that Raman probably is acting this way cause he feels guilty for the life/state Adi is in and couldn't bring himself to traumatized his child even more by taking away the only person who (unfortunately) is his son's everything.
Shagun is a poor mother but for Adi she is the only loving parent he has. Like you have aptly put everything else has been taken away from him...

Also agree on your Ruhi/Aditya point - both have suffered lack of parent's love in some form but yes ruhi grew up in a pretty loving family who literally dotes on her, she is their little princess...while Aditya was sent away to some hostel, his mother too preoccupied with her social life to give much attention to him...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well

Helping adi or Shagun is not the issue

Taking her to a hotel room

Trusting her

Taking her at face value is the issue

He has lost his marbles as he has even kept mihir from all this

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Posted: 11 years ago
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good post.
Do agree with u.
But still sometimes I feel do cvs also think so much.
I think we invest too much emotions in thinking n justifying each n every aspect but they only think in d point of view creating drama n trp.
most of the time they forget simple things n change it according to their convinence.
simplest example i can give here is on which floor do Bhalla family stays.
1) they showed it their flat on first floor when Ishu was taking pooja for delivery Mr. N Mrs Bhalla were talkin g to Romi from First floor.
2) when that theif came it was on 3rd floor.
3) 2days back when Raman was feeling guilty after Ruhi n Ishu said sorry to him he came out for file that time it looked like it was ground flr.
I know u will wonder in why I am ranting abt this things here.
but I feels like a dejected fan. The way they r butchering Raman's character it's really feel sad to see it.
Hope today they don't show Raman without trying to come towards Ishu to speak drives off.
Thanks for this post Anni
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Aani, from the beginning I thought his feelings were love mixed in with a lot guilt. He feels responsible for what his son has become, he feels guilty about not being able to fight for him all those years ago. I never condemned him for loving is son unconditionally, but the foolish mistakes he is making is astonishing.

I just need this track to end, it is giving me a headache
Edited by pomegranate - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah Raman is right in helping adi...no second thoughts about that ...but his hiding the whole truth from Ishita is disturbing...WHY??...all along she helped him deal with adi and also encouraged him to be courteous to Shagun...and now on shagun's insistence all Ishu's past good deeds are forgotten...and he decides since she is not adi's natural mom she might not understand...I just wish he had used his brain for once and given Ishu a chance...he wld have discovered that not only her thoughts but her actions are noble too

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post Aani! Absolutely agree.
It IS Love and Guilt together... but yes, Guilt... DEFO there... thats the driving force of his actions actually. I would like to see the heights that Raman can go to though... i mean he HAS wronged his son one way or another... deliberately or not... but he has... even now... by saving his apparently murderous mom and his exwife, hes doing wrong AGAIN... and he WILL realise... bas Ishita ko truth pata lagne ki der hai...


Whatever hes doing for Adi IS out of guilt more than love. Because he loves Ruhi too... cant be that he intentionally treats them differently, he just knows that with ishita being there, their family is complete, Ruhi hasnt ever gone away from him, nor will she ever go... Adi on the other hand... has always gone away from him and whenever he has had that tinge of hope that maybe he is finally getting some of his son back, he drifts away... he is scared again that Adi will grow further apart and away from him... that fear, and that guilt of what HIS personal life has brought upon on his son... make him take these insane, hasty decisions and steps that he will realize the fault of sooner or later. But again, since he thinks that he himself and his son adi have been unfortunate enough, and not had The kind of relationship they should have had... he, in his guilt wants to do extra... to probably cover up for that... also to perhaps make up for all the years he has missed being with his son... also, since here, the son hates and literally detests his dad so much, so obviously Raman wants to take extreme steps and try harder, like he does with Ruhi too, when she is upset with him... the only problem and difference is, Ruhi's innocence is intact inspite of all that has happened, whereas Adi... he has lost all his innocence, and true, as you said... thanks to Ishita and Raman's loving family, Ruhi didnt have to/get to see or experience the worst in this phase, also because she was so young... whereas Adi... well he got to see and experience the worst. Moreover, his naive and young mind was brutally manipulated amidst all that drama/phase.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good post Aani! You are right. This entire obsession is because of that guilt and helplessness he feels. But, as a normally sensible person, we expect something different from Raman. No one is against him showering all that love. He needs to be strict if the situation demands. That's all!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Aani...
connect for sure 😛

this is exactly what I said to Isha on one of her posts a couple of days ago (Isha's topic instigated my comment, before the Neil discussion)>> Raman's knee jerk reaction was to protect his child. But since the first spontaneous reaction , he's been doing everything because he feels guilty (he calls it love for Adi, which I am sure also is a factor). He feels responsible for Adi turning out to be a monster (for a lack of better word) EVEN if Raman is not involved in his day-to-day upbringing and maybe BECAUSE Raman is not involved in his day-to-day upbringing he feels guilty.

Of course, Raman's guilt is technically unwarranted, but thats what every parent would do right? Even 'normal' parents from happy families feel guilty (mostly masked with shame) if their child does something incomprehensible. And Raman's family isnt anywhere near normal.

Even though the separation, the divorce and Adi's custody are NOT his fault at all, Raman still feels guilty. BEcause eventually he feels responsible for his child.

Of course, this doesnt show up in his relation with Ruhi, because whether he showed love to her or not, he's been involved in her life. He's seen her grow up to be a 'good' kid. Gosh, as I type this, I realise that this could also become a cause of resentment between the two siblings (but thats for another post, another day!)

"Guilt is anger directed at ourselves" - Peter McWilliams

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