An erratic analysis of yest's episode!

Hi. It seems ages since i had any good scenes of Gaurav to analyse, though i realised this morning that it has been only 3 episodes... kehte hai nai, you should never ask a hungry person for an estimate of how much to cook!!

I still dont know how Abhimanyu is reacting to Naveen's death... he's come here to lay that ghost to rest (pun fully intended!) but when Naina said she doesnt want it followed up, he let it go... and he's back on the same back slapping terms with Rajeev.... what happened? Does he now want to find those people who framed Naveen? Is he ok with Rajeev's act of killing? Instead, the man participates in a 'mission' to keep Yudi as cadet and get Aalekh and Neelu married to each other...

Anyway, the entire mission thing is over and thank god for that. Just one observation: the scene in which Gaurav said 'jab kisi patient ko patiently samjhaya jaaye ki woh patient hai...etc', it was a very Amitabh Bachchan scene... the kind of comedy that he used to do in his films... par mujhe jaise Gaurav ne bola, AB ki yaad nahi aayi... i was so proud of that!

Now to yesterday's episode... incidentally, i think hawks and eagles would have been better titles than hawks and doves... this is too black and white, predator and prey, that would have been more interesting since its not necessary that those being chased are always doves or prey. Also, if Puneet Issar goes on saying things like 'doves yani kabootar', i shall throw something at my tv... dialogue writer, go kill yourself.

As for Gaurav in uniform, have never been too much of a uniform person to be impressed though i liked the hair tied back... cheeni kum, anyone?!... incidentally, i liked the inclination of head that Yudi gives to Abhimanyu when they are told that he is going to lead them... a half smile on Gaurav's face and a half smile on Kunal's face.... i want to see more of his equation with people other than Rajeev and Naina... what do the other students think of him?... what is his relationship/equation with them?

I liked the way Gaurav did the half smile again when Rajeev asked for permissin to take an orderly along... it was 'yeh dono kabhi nahi sudharenge' but not really exasperated kind of expression... the same which was shown in the promo.

And of course records toh todenge hi... heroes jo hain!!

Achcha Teena i hope you are happy now... your romance might just be beginning.... Naina ko patience of a predator kahan dikh gaya Abhimanyu mein.... humein toh bahut kuch dikha tha par yeh nahi... 😛

You know the reason i like Gaurav is perhaps precisely this, that he makes me believe in what he is saying... i think he built that scene so well... to be 9, the burden of being distinguished, wanting to live up to your father's expectations, fear of the inability to do so, unwillingness to kill or destroy something which is beautiful... also the sense of irony, mocking one's own self... knowing it was something that displeased his father... knowing that even then, in the moment of taking the decision.... and now finding that displeasure and fear of displeasure both still touching and important and also slightly funny... and then ending the whole thing with something completely irrelevant... which is the only way you can end such stories. If you go back to the scene, he's matched the mood of every line... changed the pitch of the scene throuhgout. Achche se kiya yeh...

Achcha though the dialogues were silly here, i liked the situation... it was a very vulnerable moment that he was sharing, though he made it sound anything but vulnerable, which is not surprising since that is how a lot of men cope with being vulnerable :).... more establishment of Abhi's character.

I loved the scene where he holds his hand out to her, he looked very heroic in this one ... and i absolutely loved the fact that she shakes her head and gets up on her own... very, very cute! Kudos to Naina for this one 😃

Pata hai, mujhe pata hi nahi tha ki har faisle ka apna plus or minus hota hai!!.. why do the dialogue writers make these people say such super brilliant things that leave me either irritated or laughing (depending on my mood) and in no way willing to give the show any chance?

Waise Abhimanyu kuch kam nahi hai... Huda and Yudi kept saying sir, he never said 'Humne kya decide kiya tha, what will you call me?'... woh sirf Naina ko pucha... toh phir forum pe toh gaaliyan padni hi hai 😛

You know, all this running around and trying to guess who has gone where must be fun... I'm very kiddish in that i love all such games... being left in a maze is my idea of joy... issliye i'm thouroughly enjoying myself, though of course move-counter move and espionage games can be done much better... par itna bhi bahut hai iss show se. 😃

Finally, today, hopefully the chase will get more exciting... through this chase, there were this small scenes... for instance, the bonding with yudi scene, the looking for clues scene... but on the whole the chase scene has not had any good Gaurav scenes so far... he's constantly teaching the people with him, letting them take the lead, which is what he should be doing as a teacher, but which doesnt really help him right now.

Well thats that. I shall give my erratic chattering a rest here!

gr8 obsevation.it's so nice to read something gud abt him.btw nice meeting u,koi to hai jo use like karta hai, warna zyada log to use bash hi karte rehte hain.i really like gaurav and abhi a lot.
natalie.

I feel Abhimanyu knew that from before... it was only made up to cool Naina down

Originally posted by: whynot

Hi. It seems ages since i had any good scenes of Gaurav to analyse, though i realised this morning that it has been only 3 episodes... kehte hai nai, you should never ask a hungry person for an estimate of how much to cook!!

had been waiting for an analysis😛

I still dont know how Abhimanyu is reacting to Naveen's death... he's come here to lay that ghost to rest (pun fully intended!) but when Naina said she doesnt want it followed up, he let it go... and he's back on the same back slapping terms with Rajeev.... what happened? Does he now want to find those people who framed Naveen? Is he ok with Rajeev's act of killing? Instead, the man participates in a 'mission' to keep Yudi as cadet and get Aalekh and Neelu married to each other...

I think Abhi is trying to gain the trust of the cadets esp Naina before he makes further moves. Something joining the group.Regd mission 'work' must carry on even if you are music teacher😆

Anyway, the entire mission thing is over and thank god for that. Just one observation: the scene in which Gaurav said 'jab kisi patient ko patiently samjhaya jaaye ki woh patient hai...etc', it was a very Amitabh Bachchan scene... the kind of comedy that he used to do in his films... par mujhe jaise Gaurav ne bola, AB ki yaad nahi aayi... i was so proud of that!

Yes he does speak in AB baritone. I defer here I did connect with AB. My opinion is that Gaurav shd freely deliver the dialogue without being hindered of being compared to AB or trying to emulate him. His body language is too tense at times.

Now to yesterday's episode... incidentally, i think hawks and eagles would have been better titles than hawks and doves... this is too black and white, predator and prey, that would have been more interesting since its not necessary that those being chased are always doves or prey. Also, if Puneet Issar goes on saying things like 'doves yani kabootar', i shall throw something at my tv... dialogue writer, go kill yourself.

yes, dialogue writer needs to improve, pronto!!

As for Gaurav in uniform, have never been too much of a uniform person to be impressed though i liked the hair tied back... cheeni kum, anyone?!... incidentally, i liked the inclination of head that Yudi gives to Abhimanyu when they are told that he is going to lead them... a half smile on Gaurav's face and a half smile on Kunal's face.... i want to see more of his equation with people other than Rajeev and Naina... what do the other students think of him?... what is his relationship/equation with them?

I wld like him to get a hair cut and shave!!seriously why hide a great face behd that jungle? Slowly most of the cadets will like him except may be Huda!He has won over Yudi already.

I liked the way Gaurav did the half smile again when Rajeev asked for permissin to take an orderly along... it was 'yeh dono kabhi nahi sudharenge' but not really exasperated kind of expression... the same which was shown in the promo.

For me that mock smile was more of "oh I know the old trick buddy".Be creative man!

And of course records toh todenge hi... heroes jo hain!!

Achcha Teena i hope you are happy now... your romance might just be beginning.... Naina ko patience of a predator kahan dikh gaya Abhimanyu mein.... humein toh bahut kuch dikha tha par yeh nahi... 😛

You know the reason i like Gaurav is perhaps precisely this, that he makes me believe in what he is saying... i think he built that scene so well... to be 9, the burden of being distinguished, wanting to live up to your father's expectations, fear of the inability to do so, unwillingness to kill or destroy something which is beautiful... also the sense of irony, mocking one's own self... knowing it was something that displeased his father... knowing that even then, in the moment of taking the decision.... and now finding that displeasure and fear of displeasure both still touching and important and also slightly funny... and then ending the whole thing with something completely irrelevant... which is the only way you can end such stories. If you go back to the scene, he's matched the mood of every line... changed the pitch of the scene throuhgout. Achche se kiya yeh...

Achcha though the dialogues were silly here, i liked the situation... it was a very vulnerable moment that he was sharing, though he made it sound anything but vulnerable, which is not surprising since that is how a lot of men cope with being vulnerable :).... more establishment of Abhi's character.

Yes they did try to establish Abhi's charac but for me it lacked the sensitivity or say positioning of the scene. While on a mission/drill it cld have been something more pertinent. Its the scripts fault though. Gaurav did the scene well, softening his voice and looking at Naina. Great timing👏.

I loved the scene where he holds his hand out to her, he looked very heroic in this one ... and i absolutely loved the fact that she shakes her head and gets up on her own... very, very cute! Kudos to Naina for this one 😃

I liked Abhi more in the scene to accept refusal and carry on. Brave👏

Pata hai, mujhe pata hi nahi tha ki har faisle ka apna plus or minus hota hai!!.. why do the dialogue writers make these people say such super brilliant things that leave me either irritated or laughing (depending on my mood) and in no way willing to give the show any chance?

Waise Abhimanyu kuch kam nahi hai... Huda and Yudi kept saying sir, he never said 'Humne kya decide kiya tha, what will you call me?'... woh sirf Naina ko pucha... toh phir forum pe toh gaaliyan padni hi hai 😛

Abhi is deliberately being friendly with Naina he has a goal in mind. I dont think he likes/loves her its all for his GOAL. But he might have had feelings for Nandini.

You know, all this running around and trying to guess who has gone where must be fun... I'm very kiddish in that i love all such games... being left in a maze is my idea of joy... issliye i'm thouroughly enjoying myself, though of course move-counter move and espionage games can be done much better... par itna bhi bahut hai iss show se. 😃

yes this game is much better than that preposterous marriage and heart attack stuff!

Finally, today, hopefully the chase will get more exciting... through this chase, there were this small scenes... for instance, the bonding with yudi scene, the looking for clues scene... but on the whole the chase scene has not had any good Gaurav scenes so far... he's constantly teaching the people with him, letting them take the lead, which is what he should be doing as a teacher, but which doesnt really help him right now.

No it does, he wins their confidence and trust. Only then will the cadets listen to him and do his job.

Well thats that. I shall give my erratic chattering a rest here!

and mines too😆

Originally posted by: luv_huda

gr8 obsevation.it's so nice to read something gud abt him.btw nice meeting u,koi to hai jo use like karta hai, warna zyada log to use bash hi karte rehte hain.i really like gaurav and abhi a lot.
natalie.

Hey Natalie you're welcome.

Ya i too like Gaurav a lot... still have to make up my mind about Abhi though 😉 😃

Originally posted by: tere_bin

I feel Abhimanyu knew that from before... it was only made up to cool Naina down

Sweetie i think you are referring to Naveen's death?

If Abhimanyu already knew that, why did he react so violently in the... ahem... sword fight?

had been waiting for an analysis😛

Thank you... thats very sweet of you 😃

I think Abhi is trying to gain the trust of the cadets esp Naina before he makes further moves. Something joining the group.Regd mission 'work' must carry on even if you are music teacher.

Yes i hope there is a reason. And yes good 'work' they're carrying out!

Yes he does speak in AB baritone. I defer here I did connect with AB. My opinion is that Gaurav shd freely deliver the dialogue without being hindered of being compared to AB or trying to emulate him. His body language is too tense at times.

But spian I'm tired of hearing how similar to AB he is... i want him to be Gaurav, not an AB clone... so whenever he's given something which is an AB scene and he does it differently, i like it.... but see in this scene you did connect with AB, so i guess a lot depends on the viewer as well... perhaps i did not see AB because i didnt want to see AB in it 😊

yes, dialogue writer needs to improve, pronto!!

There are these lines that i tend to use repeatedly... here's one of them for you... 'great minds think alike' 😃

I wld like him to get a hair cut and shave!!seriously why hide a great face behd that jungle? Slowly most of the cadets will like him except may be Huda!He has won over Yudi already.

Yes he has won over Yudi. But great face eh?! I've never thought of Gaurav's face as great... you've given me something to think about!!

For me that mock smile was more of "oh I know the old trick buddy".Be creative man!

Ya it could have been that too... i tend to see Abhimanyu as less competetive but then thats strictly personal reading...

Achcha Teena i hope you are happy now... your romance might just be beginning.... Naina ko patience of a predator kahan dikh gaya Abhimanyu mein.... humein toh bahut kuch dikha tha par yeh nahi... 😛

Yes they did try to establish Abhi's charac but for me it lacked the sensitivity or say positioning of the scene. While on a mission/drill it cld have been something more pertinent. Its the scripts fault though. Gaurav did the scene well, softening his voice and looking at Naina. Great timing👏.

You're right about the position of the scene... didnt suit a drill at all... but i've been so irritated at there being no Gaurav scenes that i forgive them the clumsy placement... but i agree that he did the scene well, used his face very well... especially when he raised his eyes when she said you have the patience of a predator.

I liked Abhi more in the scene to accept refusal and carry on. Brave👏

Ummmm... did he have a choice?! 😛

Abhi is deliberately being friendly with Naina he has a goal in mind. I dont think he likes/loves her its all for his GOAL. But he might have had feelings for Nandini. yes this game is much better than that preposterous marriage and heart attack stuff!

I too think that so far he does not have any major romantic feelings towards Naina, though his warmth towards her is increasing. If he does have a goal, i hope its a sensible one... as for the marriage and heart attack, truly preposterous... but the kids here really enjoyed it.

No it does, he wins their confidence and trust. Only then will the cadets listen to him and do his job.

When it said it doesnt help him right now, i didnt mean Abhimanyu... i meant Gaurav... constantly downplaying himself may work for the character Abhimanyu but it may not work for the actor Gaurav since its not helping him at this moment in the show, when he needs to establish himself.

Finally, thank you so much for the detailed comments... and welcome to the 'i nitpick about everything' club. 😃

👏 👏 well seriously its really great to see ur Analysis concentrsting on Gaurav 👏 👏 👏

But u see as Kanak di said i too feel Abhi knew or had a hint atleast tat Raj mercy kiled Navin 😳 😳 😳
thn but since he heard it frm Naina he dint want 2 hurt her so mayb he acted tat way 2 Raj 😛 😛 😛
its wat i feel 😳 😳

But teres a lott hidden in Raj Navin Abhi frndship
n Nandini too 😉 😉
hope we can open up all those closed rooms 😆

Originally posted by: minnee

👏 👏 well seriously its really great to see ur Analysis concentrsting on Gaurav 👏 👏 👏

But u see as Kanak di said i too feel Abhi knew or had a hint atleast tat Raj mercy kiled Navin 😳 😳 😳
thn but since he heard it frm Naina he dint want 2 hurt her so mayb he acted tat way 2 Raj 😛 😛 😛
its wat i feel 😳 😳

But teres a lott hidden in Raj Navin Abhi frndship
n Nandini too 😉 😉
hope we can open up all those closed rooms 😆

Well sweetie i like Gaurav... honestly bahut try karti hoon ki doosri cheezon pe concentrate karoon, par hota hi nahi 😉 😆 😆

I dont think Abhi knew... otherwise his reaction becomes difficult to explain. As for the story, lets see what happens. 😃

thanksssssssssssssss......... shvetal. it's a b e a utiful analysis..
bahut dino ke baad kuch revitalizing mila hai.....