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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: frappie

no not at all I have always told right from the begining that this is not a competition that who deserved draupadi more than others I have only told that paanchali loved paarth and he reciprocated her love as a geniuine husband and he deserved her as he won her by proving his mettle and she deserved him because she loved him. thats as simple as that


in that case its the end of discussion between you and me .We both agree on same points😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: devashree_h

I am only tring to prove things from Parth and Draupadi's angle, which still proves my point. Satyabhama feeling that doesnt change the fact that Parth shared his moments with Madhav and included Panchali in that.


Isnt this telling Deva? I had to rethink on your "two most important men" comment😆😳

When Jayadratha comes to Kidnap her and says stupid stuff to her Draupadi saya :-


Draupadi replied, "Though I am so powerful, why doth the king of Sauvira yet consider me so powerless.

Well-known as I am, I cannot, from fear of violence, demean myself before that prince.

Even Indra himself cannot abduct her for whose protection Krishna and Arjuna would together follow, riding in the same chariot.

What shall I say, therefore, of a weak human being.

When Kiriti, that slayer of foes, riding on his car, will, on my account, enter thy ranks, striking terror into every heart, he will consume everything around like fire consuming a stack of dry grass in summer.


The warring princes of the Andhaka and the Vrishni races, with Janardana(Krishna) at their head, and the mighty bowmen of the Kaikeya tribe, will all follow in my wake with great ardour.


The terrible arrows of Dhananjaya, shot from the string of the Gandiva and propelled by his arms fly with great force through the air, roaring like the very clouds. And when thou wilt behold Arjuna shooting from theGandiva a thick mass of mighty arrows like unto a flight of locusts, then wilt thou repent of thine own folly!


Bethink thyself of what thou wilt feel when that warrior armed with the Gandiva, blowing his conch-shell and with gloves reverberating with the strokes of his bowstring will again and again pierce thy breast with his shafts.


And when Bhima will advance towards thee, mace in hand and the two sons of Madri range in all directions, vomiting forth the venom of their wrath, thou wilt then experience pangs of keen regret that will last for ever.

As I have never been false to my worthy lords even in thought, so by that merit shall I now have the pleasure of beholding thee vanquished and dragged by the sons of Pritha. Thou canst not, cruel as thou art, frighten me by seizing me with violence, for as soon as those Kuru warriors will espy me they will bring me back to the woods of Kamyaka.'"




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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Medha.S


Isnt this telling Deva? I had to rethink on your "two most important men" comment😆😳

When Jayadratha comes to Kidnap her and says stupid stuff to her Draupadi saya :-


Draupadi replied, "Though I am so powerful, why doth the king of Sauvira yet consider me so powerless.

Well-known as I am, I cannot, from fear of violence, demean myself before that prince.

Even Indra himself cannot abduct her for whose protection Krishna and Arjuna would together follow, riding in the same chariot.

What shall I say, therefore, of a weak human being.

When Kiriti, that slayer of foes, riding on his car, will, on my account, enter thy ranks, striking terror into every heart, he will consume everything around like fire consuming a stack of dry grass in summer.


The warring princes of the Andhaka and the Vrishni races, with Janardana(Krishna) at their head, and the mighty bowmen of the Kaikeya tribe, will all follow in my wake with great ardour.


The terrible arrows of Dhananjaya, shot from the string of the Gandiva and propelled by his arms fly with great force through the air, roaring like the very clouds. And when thou wilt behold Arjuna shooting from theGandiva a thick mass of mighty arrows like unto a flight of locusts, then wilt thou repent of thine own folly!


Bethink thyself of what thou wilt feel when that warrior armed with the Gandiva, blowing his conch-shell and with gloves reverberating with the strokes of his bowstring will again and again pierce thy breast with his shafts.


And when Bhima will advance towards thee, mace in hand and the two sons of Madri range in all directions, vomiting forth the venom of their wrath, thou wilt then experience pangs of keen regret that will last for ever.

As I have never been false to my worthy lords even in thought, so by that merit shall I now have the pleasure of beholding thee vanquished and dragged by the sons of Pritha. Thou canst not, cruel as thou art, frighten me by seizing me with violence, for as soon as those Kuru warriors will espy me they will bring me back to the woods of Kamyaka.'"




Thank u Medha for posting this.
Draupadi refers to all her husbands, but she CLEARLY gives more emphasis to her sakha Lord Krishna n Arjun.
She gives more emphasis to Arjun, n kind of expresses more trust on his skills as a warrior, than on any of her other husbands( atleast in this mentioned part).
Maybe, it is bcoz of these reasons, n subtle hints, that it is believed that Draupadi loved Arjun the most.
We don't know for sure, who loved whom the most. But I guess these subtle hints, tell us a lot.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: amritat


Thank u Medha for posting this.
Draupadi refers to all her husbands, but she CLEARLY gives more emphasis to her sakha Lord Krishna n Arjun.
She gives more emphasis to Arjun, n kind of expresses more trust on his skills as a warrior, than on any of her other husbands( atleast in this mentioned part).
Maybe, it is bcoz of these reasons, n subtle hints, that it is believed that Draupadi loved Arjun the most.
We don't know for sure, who loved whom the most. But I guess these subtle hints, tell us a lot.


Strictly with reference to the passage that Medha has posted. Here Draupadi praises Arjun the most because Arjun is the greatest warrior amongst the Pandavas hands down. Bheem too is mentioned for his prowess, but not in the same vein as Arjun. This guy literally defeated all the Kaurava greats during the Virat war single-handedly. I don't think it's correct to suppose that Draupadi praised Arjun the most here because he was her favourite. There might be other clues scattered within the text that show her partiality towards him, but this is not one of them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashwini_D


Strictly with reference to the passage that Medha has posted. Here Draupadi praises Arjun the most because Arjun is the greatest warrior amongst the Pandavas hands down. Bheem too is mentioned for his prowess, but not in the same vein as Arjun. This guy literally defeated all the Kaurava greats during the Virat war single-handedly. I don't think it's correct to suppose that Draupadi praised Arjun the most here because he was her favourite. There might be other clues scattered within the text that show her partiality towards him, but this is not one of them.

Maybe. Maybe not.
It is only a matter of perception n perspective, isn't it?
When I read this part, I felt as if she was more proud of Arjun, than her other husbands.
So, I said it.
Arjun was certainly the greatest warrior among the Pandavas, but Bhim was no less.
Anyway, I wrote what I felt.
And I strongly believe, that it was not just Arjun's greatness as a warrior, but also the pride that Draupadi felt for him, that made her say these words.
In the mentioned part, it seems as if Draupadi trusts Arjun more, when comes to these matters.
Arjun's skill is certainly a reason. But her feelings could be responsible too. Maybe.
But that's just my opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: Ashwini_D


Strictly with reference to the passage that Medha has posted. Here Draupadi praises Arjun the most because Arjun is the greatest warrior amongst the Pandavas hands down. Bheem too is mentioned for his prowess, but not in the same vein as Arjun. This guy literally defeated all the Kaurava greats during the Virat war single-handedly. I don't think it's correct to suppose that Draupadi praised Arjun the most here because he was her favourite. There might be other clues scattered within the text that show her partiality towards him, but this is not one of them.


Here is a most telling one- perhaps there is no other passage where she so openly admits her pining for one of the husband!

After Arjun's departure from Kamyaka Van...
"...The princess of Panchala in particular, remembering her third lord, addressed the anxious Yudhishthira and said, 'That Arjuna who with two hands rivals the thousand-armed Arjuna (of old), alas, without that foremost of the sons of Pandu, this forest doth not seem at all beautiful in my eyes. Without him, whenever I cast my eyes, this earth seems to be forlorn. Even this forest with its blossoming trees and so full of wonders, without Arjuna seems not so delightful as before. Without him who is like a mass of blue clouds (in hue), who hath the prowess of an infuriated elephant, and whose eyes are like the leaves of the lotus, this Kamyaka forest doth not seem beautiful to me. Remembering that hero capable of drawing the bow with his left hand, and the twang of whose bow sounds like the roar of thunder, I cannot feel any happiness, O king!..."
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth


Here is a most telling one- perhaps there is no other passage where she so openly admits her pining for one of the husband!

After Arjun's departure from Kamyaka Van...
"...The princess of Panchala in particular, remembering her third lord, addressed the anxious Yudhishthira and said, 'That Arjuna who with two hands rivals the thousand-armed Arjuna (of old), alas, without that foremost of the sons of Pandu, this forest doth not seem at all beautiful in my eyes. Without him, whenever I cast my eyes, this earth seems to be forlorn. Even this forest with its blossoming trees and so full of wonders, without Arjuna seems not so delightful as before. Without him who is like a mass of blue clouds (in hue), who hath the prowess of an infuriated elephant, and whose eyes are like the leaves of the lotus, this Kamyaka forest doth not seem beautiful to me. Remembering that hero capable of drawing the bow with his left hand, and the twang of whose bow sounds like the roar of thunder, I cannot feel any happiness, O king!..."

Thank u for the post.
This is y Yudisthir probably believed that Draupadi loved Arjun the most.
N I believe it too.

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