Rudra's state of mind: Tough Love - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Crystal29

OMG Anu - This is an awesome post on Rudra! 👏 Aww thanks yaar😳

You are so right. He doesn't believe in marriage but why did he marry her the way he did. His way of telling her that - you wanted marriage. I lost my job because of your zid. Ok I will marry you. It is not going to be pretty marrying me because I am not husband material and cannot be one. I can't trust, I can't love, and I can't be nice. And that exactly is what the 8 vachans were about and that is what he plans to do. Show her how she did the mistake of not going away when he asked her to. Exactly! And that is something that Paro and the others aren't realizing even though he's told them so DIRECTLY😆...Paro especially INSISTS on weaving rose-tinted dreams despite him making it so obvious that he's not cut out for this stuff...so he's basically left with no choice but to DEMONSTRATE as he sees it...actually go out of his way to hurt her and maybe then she'll get the message...but she obviously refuses to😆.


If he was left alone, he would have stayed as far as he can from her and let her go. He tried to scare her away, scream her away, put her on the spot etc etc. Nothing worked. She came closer and closer. Then proposed too. That too in front of so many people. For a person like Rudra who stayed away from anything resembling love for so long, that has to be cornering. And No he doesn't understand what he feels for her. All he knows is he does not want to even think that route as those feelings always end up hurting him. THIS...exactly...Rudra won't even LET his mind wander in the direction of pondering over these things...he's conditioned himself over the years towards this...since he's been burnt so badly when he trusted and loved with all his heart...he just doesn't want to put himself out there...he just doesn't think anyone's capable of or worthy of that kind of love...


The fact that he cares for her and has that love hidden in his heart is something he does not acknowledge himself. So starts the I will make you cry dialogues. But when she gets hurt and blood oozes out, he can't stop himself. This is quite an interesting characterization of Rudra. He doesn't fall for tears or bashans or reasoning. But when it comes to Paro getting physically hurt or when a third person tries to hurt her in any way, he cannot stop himself. He instinctively jumps in and takes over. Oh well, he doesn't even let Maithili take care of her when she was sick. LOL he's possessive in every way...he wants exclusive rights on both hurting her as well as healing her...twisted mind, but there it is.

Possessive he is. But with tough love - as you have beautifully pointed out. SO Haq Banta Hain is how it is going to be. But I feel the big revelation for him is going to be that he does have it in him to be a good husband. He does have it in him to feel that love. He does have it in him to trust. And that will be a beautiful revelation and an even more beautiful journey. Yes, that's the journey that he has to take and he has a ways to go...trust will probably always be a key point of contention...for him, trust is always fragile and Paro doesn't exactly understand him properly on that front yet...

Great husband ka toh pata nahin😆...he has a LOT of hangups😆...he's always going to be a difficult person to deal with...but Paro signed up for this so she has to deal with it😆...but yes Rudra is the kind of person who if he does form attachments, he forms deep and strong ones...loves fiercely with all his heart...and that is the reason why he runs away from attachments...he probably can't cope with the strength of emotion they bring in him...detachment has kept him alive and strong all these years...

It's basically a clash b/w Rudra's cynicism and Paro's idealism...and the fact that both of them are VERY stubborn regarding their viewpoints is what keeps the conflict alive...Rudra's extreme cynicism contrasts with Paro's extreme innocence.


Again. Great Post! Thanks again! :-)

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Are Yaar
Thats very eloquent and lucid rambling 👏

I would love to say more here (stupidly stuck with work on a friday night!)- the only thing I find really interesting is that he keeps saying ZINDAGI bhar ke liye?! A guy who doesnt believe in longivity and sustainability of Shaadi or any other kind of relation- talks about LIFE LONG TORTURES!! In his mind- THIS IS IT! That is very telling!

More later.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: yessehm


I hope it really takes a long long time for him to acknowledge his love for Paro. I love this fighting of the attraction/love and denying the feelings part. For me the thrill is in the chase...

Love this show to bits



WORD on that...the thrill is always in the chase...my interests ends the moment the chase ends as far as soaps go😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: CyberOstrich

Are Yaar

Thats very eloquent and lucid rambling 👏

I would love to say more here (stupidly stuck with work on a friday night!)- the only thing I find really interesting is that he keeps saying ZINDAGI bhar ke liye?! A guy who doesnt believe in longivity and sustainability of Shaadi or any other kind of relation- talks about LIFE LONG TORTURES!! In his mind- THIS IS IT! That is very telling!

More later.



Why thank you, Cyber Ostrich😳

Good point on the ZINDAGI bhar ke liye! I'm not sure if that's part of the act though or he really means it😆...he's doing nautanki to scare her and stuff too like the sarcastic tones with which he calls her shrimati, himself pati parmeshwar...that silkily dangerous tone, right?😆

Maybe he thinks that he's stuck with her regardless...not like she was refusing to leave even when he wouldn't marry her😆...so lifelong bond it is...and he's going to make it as tough for her as he can since she refused to listen to reason and sense when he gave her a way out.


I also feel like Rudra is in a strange roundabout way TESTING her...he EXPECTS people to leave him, EXPECTS that relationships never last, EXPECTS people to BETRAY him...so he probably wants to test the limits of her resolve even if he finds her ludicrous...

He WANTS this to be too good to be true...how can he believe in Paro's brand of selfless (OVERNIGHT😆) love? It's too idealistic for a cynic like him...what seems like too good to be true, probably is...but at the same time somewhere he can't shrug off the pull he feels towards her. Interesting dilemma for Rudra dev😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


Great husband ka toh pata nahin😆...he has a LOT of hangups😆...he's always going to be a difficult person to deal with...but Paro signed up for this so she has to deal with it😆...but yes Rudra is the kind of person who if he does form attachments, he forms deep and strong ones...loves fiercely with all his heart...and that is the reason why he runs away from attachments...he probably can't cope with the strength of emotion they bring in him...detachment has kept him alive and strong all these years...

It's basically a clash b/w Rudra's cynicism and Paro's idealism...and the fact that both of them are VERY stubborn regarding their viewpoints is what keeps the conflict alive...Rudra's extreme cynicism contrasts with Paro's extreme innocence.


Again. Great Post! Thanks again! :-)


That is why I mentioned Good husband, not great. 😆 Of course he will do his Rudra taandav from time to time. So Paro will have to step up and learn the way to show her Shakti roop to cool him down when he does the taandav. 😆 That is where the whole Yeh bhi hain kuch aadha aadha, woh bhi rahe adhoori equation will complete itself.

Yes, both are stubborn and sparks will fly whenever they stand head to head on viewpoints. That exactly is what pulled me to RR. The equation between them when she was the captive and him captor. Never a dull moment there. I want that back here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Crystal29


That is why I mentioned Good husband, not great. 😆 Of course he will do his Rudra taandav from time to time. So Paro will have to step up and learn the way to show her Shakti roop to cool him down when he does the taandav. 😆 That is where the whole Yeh bhi hain kuch aadha aadha, woh bhi rahe adhoori equation will complete itself.

Yes, both are stubborn and sparks will fly whenever they stand head to head on viewpoints. That exactly is what pulled me to RR. The equation between them when she was the captive and him captor. Never a dull moment there. I want that back here.



LOL ok GOOD husband it is...great seems like a stretch😆

@bold: Oh the song lyrics...yes, very fitting...but the overall tone of the song is very much of angst and seperation..."sooni sooni se raatein aur nindiya"...even as something powerful binds them together, there always remains something keeping them apart..."rahe kyun rootha rootha tu manbasiya" also implies that more often than not, Rudra is gonna be pissed off at her😆...

Do you also feel that the captive/captor equation has ironically been reversed? First she was the captive...now it feels like he is the captive even though he's the one who forced her into the hate marriage...but he seems trapped in his own state along with her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: AreYaar



WORD on that...the thrill is always in the chase...my interests ends the moment the chase ends as far as soaps go😆


Exactly what i meant... After the declaration of Love in Soaps, its always downhill. Very few exceptions to that
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: AreYaar



LOL ok GOOD husband it is...great seems like a stretch😆

@bold: Oh the song lyrics...yes, very fitting...but the overall tone of the song is very much of angst and seperation..."sooni sooni se raatein aur nindiya"...even as something powerful binds them together, there always remains something keeping them apart..."rahe kyun rootha rootha tu manbasiya" also implies that more often than not, Rudra is gonna be pissed off at her😆...

Do you also feel that the captive/captor equation has ironically been reversed? First she was the captive...now it feels like he is the captive even though he's the one who forced her into the hate marriage...but he seems trapped in his own state along with her.


@bold - I never thought of it. But makes sense. That too with the number of role reversals portrayed in RR 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post.. Tough love..
Edited by Tanisha99 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Crystal29


@bold - I never thought of it. But makes sense. That too with the number of role reversals portrayed in RR 😆



LOL or maybe I am overthinking it...in a way, karma has come back to haunt Rudra too...lol...yes there was always destiny binding him to Paro but he's the one who brought her home as his captive...never in his wildest dreams also would he have thought that she'd turn around and declare she WANTS to be with him, WANTS to be married to him😆

There was a time when Rudra was willing to go as far as marrying her and he didn't balk at the notion cuz he was COMFORTABLE with the idea that she HATED him😆...but when she talked of LOVE, that too out of the blue as far as he's concerned, she's scared the hell out of him.

Thing is, Paro is as DIRECT as can be...straightforward to a fault almost...while Rudra's mind is a labyrinth of emotions that can't so easily be navigated through...Paro ko laga pyar hai toh usne INSTANTLY bol diya (although I doubt she really still understands what she means) and Rudra is still scrambling to make sense of this ki KIDHAR se aaya pyar? 😆

He's done NOTHING to make her think of love as far as he knows...but for Paro, his protectiveness IS love.😆

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