Blast from the Past Thread #24 ** Golgappa Times ** p 113, ep 246 - Page 71

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Javeria3991

Stupendous take of episode 240. 
Very thoughtful take. The blue underline lines are my favorite lines. Love the way you describe Arnav and khushi emotions when her friends brought up her wedding day. Very true dressing up for the life partner is an important part of wedding, in this way one is accepting other. 
Khushi like a smart girl brilliantly wove a beautiful story without taking care of wounds of the broken heart, pain and anguish of that fateful night. It hurts both equally, there dreams of wedding day broke  and so does their families also. Questions again shine in her eyes which Arnav just couldn't answer, not now.



thanks so much, javeria... yes it's all questions and there really isn't a way to come to the answers, it hurts too much. he will tell her soon though and she will say what she must to clear the misunderstanding, but it won't do the trick. for that to happen, a feeling has to kick into place, in darkness and in hell... that is where real understanding and truth perhaps can sometimes be found. knowledge i think ipk said is cold and not really powerful... what is powerful is a feeling.

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Posted: 10 years ago

I finished reading and the last part had me also serene and calm and sad after that slightly not too great episode. Just like the atmosphere you describe. Beautiful writing.. the last part is the starting of the unraveling of all the hidden hurt, sadness, pain. And after a long time could instinctively feel for Khushi.. lovely lines throughout your take Indi di.



thanks, rhea,

yes, faiqa had spoken of that trunk during sangeet... now it seemed the burden had shifted a bit. thank you for bringing up that conversation with la... really what a loss the letting go of khushi. i don't know if you have seen queen, lovely film. there was that girl in khushi somewhere, then they finished her off.

i wondered the other day what would happen if asr met rani (from queen) would he suddenly remember a fiery young girl who was loopy but sharp and who had stirred him immeasurably with her possibilities, stunned him with her utter beauty and sensuality... would he have wished he could kidnap her and take her away somewhere safe before star plus, viewer psychographics, trp numbers, production house politics, mrs india, sheetal, achhi bahu, writers gone lazy could ever reach her?

lots of blue talk up there. thanks for reading. the lines and words come because of asr and khushi, nothing else really.
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Posted: 10 years ago
faiqa, you won't believe it but i wrote pretty much what you write here up there in an answer to rhea.

he needs to set things right... and yes, sahi... make them sahi. in my head it all goes back to the night everything broke and shattered when he was 14... since then he is trying all he can to construct, to make, to make right.

what a character.


he doesn't do it for Khushi or Guptas it's for that girl who he sees sad, and alone i that moment being humiliated by her family's degradation from others.He made it "sahi" for everyone. πŸ‘ πŸ‘


i adore this shot... in the same answer to rhea i felt sad about the khushi we lost. this was her... so damn full of possibilities, and that was him...

as he stood their in 240 watching her lie to preeto, i really thought he was hearing with his dil, not his ears.

this is what this girl did for him, connected him back to his dil, a connection terribly lost on a dark night in sheeshmahal. i think he was always capable of loving deeply, feeling intensely, being beautiful, but that essential dori to heart had gone, and he with such an infinite heart...

he broke her dori that stunning first episode of a momentous meeting, but it was she that would give him the dori to his heart back.

and he gave her an essential haq she had never really had... he became hers... to do pretty much as she pleased with. never in her life since the age of 8 had khushi felt this utter haq, a no need to justify haq over someone...

what a story they make.

thanks for that snapshot, i needed it today.

i know my ipk is slowly going haywire and delving into these days makes me so terribly sad.

maybe kidnap will make it better and then up to 1 august.

let's see.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 239

it's a wedding again. only a month after a night of "haan ya na" and a dulhan who had no idea she was.

i can't help but think of that night, and despite all the jollity all around, the unstoppable mirth, i think of a man who became bridegroom and took a bride amid only tears and chaos. yes, weddings always mean a bit of chaos, but not the sort they saw within themselves and around them that night.

two dialogues got repeated too many times not to mean a thing... this is ipk, writers are clever with forming loops and echoes and reflections with the spoken word, to magnify a feeling, to nudge a memory, to create depth and texture.
well said. that's why IPK is special than any other show.

so when there was that repetition of his "haan" changing everything, i had a feeling it was somewhere to remind us of that other night. when her "naa" couldn't change anything. she had no choice or he made sure she thought so that night. a tragic, intensely sad moment. but there was something sacred in what was to come.

on the flip side of that is today's "haan" where he had a choice but didn't know, and she made sure he didn't. a fairly comic, extremely lighthearted moment... and yet, was there to be a sacred moment soon? i couldn't see any sign of it anywhere in the din and rush of carrying carpets, fixing speakers, organising pandal, and avoiding rushing pesky kids... wedding milieu, wild wonderful and setting my teeth a bit on edge.

the other word was "dulhan", every time it was said, just after i had giggled, i'd remember a beautiful bride. was i to see her as dulhan again soon?


when you see a thing repeatedly, finally you might end up seeing something quite different from what you saw the first time. and this episode on this watch, brought me to a sacred moment on a rickety ladder.

i thought i saw a beautiful suhaag raat in broad daylight, with all its longing, its nasha, its jadoo, its lifting of a veil, its looking into each others eyes, its palpitating heart stopping moments and its flowers.
wow what a thought! And his satisfying expression after falling down with her, reminded me something else...i shouldn't mention I guess.

now i might be completely imagining this and if anyone from ipk read this they'd probably be rolling on the floor laughing, but i saw what i saw teehee.

a comic air, errors galore, constant activity, great blocking... things were going along in a happy frolicking pace. khushi sang about the season to bug the laad governor, bua ji and asr got into lovely little conversations and both abha parmar and barun sobti were very good together. but i missed my asr... this pulverizing of the waistcoat man is frankly just plain tiresome for me.

he came out... stood on the steps, i remembered him standing just there a little over a month ago, so happy, in brown suit, come to see his girl... to floor her.

perfect stranger walked up to him and asked in a familiar manner if he were free. long thinking look, then a "nahin", oh barun did never quite let asr go, did he.

finally he figured out that he has been taken for a ride by his dear loving caring sharing in everyone's sadness wife.

"oh no no!" said the man.

"oh no? koi takleef hai ka, babua..." is there a problem, shot back his jodi for the episode, bua ji.

a relationship has been made, and whatever we may say, the boy is well brought up, knows what is in good taste and what is not, plus after the initial faux pas he is very circumspect.
well perceived. He is always very respectful to elders. I loved his equation with buaji.

"oh no..." emphatic and hot, "koi takleef nahin hai, bua ji." an abs sweetheart, this tycoon.

but to himself, "yeh kahan fas gaya mein" what have i got stuck in, ugh.

happy khushi came bounding out with spatula held aloft of , sanka at a high.

she asked him to move from where he stood.

"kyun?" came the brusque reply.

next thing, the speaker had got him, he almost passed out.

"haw aapke kaan toh bilkul tamatar ke tarah laal ho gaye hain..." ha, your ears have gone as red as a tomato, she said with an innocent sweet look. she had taken her revenge for the rudolph the red nose comment that morning.

why do i get the feeling he likes this sparring, it excites him... someone not scared of him, not kowtowing, and someone so pretty too... there's spice and myrrh in the air suddenly among all the pink and chaos.
beautiful writing. 

pink again. the other night the mosquito net. way back a dupatta falling over an astonished girl's head. all moments of murmurous attraction, things not said because perhaps there is no need to.

"arre, aur phool chahiye..." we need more flowers said the bride's mother and made way for that moment i think of as sacred.

a beautiful silent act of love, just a ladder, a girl and a boy who wants to be with her. and that gust of wind on a pink dupatta.

she rushed to get the flowers which are at a height, but he is instantly alert, "khushi! khushi wait..." always protective of her... no matter whether it's mohabbat or nafrat.
always in mohabbat, nafrat is just a facade.

she's up, reaching for flowers, he arrived, concerned at the sight of wobbling step ladder.

"khushi, chadne se pahle sidi ki position check kar leti!" his rough admonishing hid that care he feels.

"neeche aao!" come down, he hollered in full asr mien. bet she felt all sorts of sensations when he talked like that. there's some sort of indelible love in that possessive angry way. like he has a right over her.

"aa rahe hain," i'm coming she said with an irritated most wife like, there goes my husband again sort of way, and she turned... he watched most concerned.

and a gust of wind came to blow a dupatta. wind, dupatta, something was about to happen.

she got more and more flummoxed by flying dupatta. the wind stayed and played.

"hume kuchh dikh nahin raha!" i can't see a thing, she said panicking as the dupatta covered her eyes and head.

"khushi, stop it!" he yelled. and began to climb up the ladder, to reach her.

not a word, no music, just wind gushing steady, urgent, as he went nearer and she waited in pink veil... she looked through the veil and suddenly it all changed... notes of rabba vey entered. the whole world ceased to be, it's just you and me, here on a space between heaven and earth, why do i feel what i feel, and you? what is it that you feel? i can't stop looking at you or wanting to be near.
uff what a romantic scene! Your description is perfect.

he stood on a rung a little below her looking at her entranced...

a long time ago he had seen this very face through another pink veilwhen he didn't believe in love, when he had only anger and disbelief in such matters... but he had been struck even then...



today it's this girl he is mad about and no matter how angry or hurt, something reaches him the moment she is near...

she stared at him through the veil and her eyes sought things that her conscious mind said she will not.

he was rapt... just looking at her was all he seemed to be capable of suddenly.


slowly he took the veil down to reveal her face... a suhaag raat ritual. the way he held the veil and pulled it down to reveal her face, there was that sense of an important act. something much more than the literal meaning.

if there was a rapt mesmerised feel to the way he looked at her, in her eyes a funny sort of hunger for a second. a need.


she was embarrassed, he was just there gazing at her, to be with her is all he seeks, she lurched forward, he caught her. oh the heat of that coming together, even in a long shot there is desire everywhere.

as she averted her eyes there was suddenly a flicker of urgency, a question in his.


then the moment was over.

he let go of her shoulder. "tum neeche jao..." go down, he commanded.

"uh hamare phool?" but my flowers?

"phool main le aaonga!" i'll get the flowers, divine yelling and taking charge...

and then it happened.

she lost balance, and it all came tumbling down.


that falling felt significant. symbolic. together they are constantly in a plunge, falling ever deeper into an emotion, holding on to each other never letting go, who knows where it is taking them.πŸ‘

on the floor scattered with petals of marigold, together they lay, winded and then feeling things.

hey hey... heyheyhey.

as they tried to sit up the petals showered down. te brats had tipped the flower basket (okay, this bit was shot pretty badly, the gravity defying basket almost snatched my attention away from the magic unfolding).


he just lay there watching. in no hurry... i loved that look on his face, he has taken the veil off his bride's face, he has seen her, he is enamoured, now he will lie with her and revel in her. not suhaag raat? i loved this entire bit of episode, the pace, the colours, the emotions, the sheer scorch. 
Oh yes, suhaag raat in daylight or moreover in open space! without caring anybody how he was lying with his wife in open air was astounding. Gosh, his yearning look made me aphrodisiac. Barun's expression kills me every time.

she realised and was too smitten herself to do much about things.

marigold petals all over, yellow, orange, in the colours of the sun, spiritually significant and always at weddings and auspicious occasions, a certain sensuality to soft, plush petals. finally the entire tokri fell.

"phool toh.." she smiled.

"i know..." he agreed. they almost sounded like friends... or lovers, a bit shy, a bit lost.


rabba vey. she started to smile.


and he smiled back at her. it was perhaps their first uncomplicated, warm and private smile looking at each other with nothing but pleasure and love. yes, just that... love. was she dulhan for a moment there? and did he again give a "haan"? this time not without knowing what he said yes to.


soon we were rushing to generator and khushi had again taken umbrage at his arrogant little i am arnav sing raizada and started plotting. i thought he wanted her to succeed at fixing the machine. the advance retreat of asr khushi was a delight after such a long gap. he flicked her cheek, she was miffed. he sat next to salman with cotton in his ears looking a dish. he was devastatingly rude to the little boy with his "i don't care." the the boy spilled the beans, the busy businessman plays games on his laptop... er asr, did i hear right? this must be new if that is the case... your pagal biwi is having an effect on you.  anyway now he is going to be mechanic. oh h where is his waistcoat?πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

shyam stole the will... could have been a great track but alas.


loved it. Very beautifully written.
Your take on the ladder scene was sublime. It was indeed their symbolic suhaag raat. 
It was a beautiful episode. for a moment I forgot that there was any difference or animosity between them. They acted like lovers, who actually they are, but right now is in delusion. 
The lines I loved most, marked blue.
My comments are in purple.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Lovely.
One of my favorite episode.
your take on the golgappa scene was absolutely amazing.
Sanaya was looking beautiful in the episode. Barun was looking a bit tired but as I said above he is too gorgeous to look bad. 
All the blue lines stood out for me.
My comments are in purple.

 



thanks, sohara,

glad you liked the golgapa scene, something beautiful in it. timeless. i love the way we eat, all slurp, slosh, hands, spice hitting nerves and tear ducts... no fancy kanta chammach, bland sophisticated eating with a passive face, our khana compels reaction, lots of action... love the touch of finger on  the tongue, the lips... real eating.

ha ha we are all dead fans... bichara, only ghosts follow him madly.

can this man ever look awful... even tired we are passing out...

Edited by indi52 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
hi sohara,

you are here. πŸ€— all well? haven't bumped into you in a while. so you can't sleep without ac, haan? so bad you are, you laad governor ki ahem... πŸ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon


Rhea, great writing.. one of the forgettable episodes.. call me crazy/ possessive..I cant see him literally sweating.. does one has to always engulfed in luxuries and woolen suits.. absolutely not.. in fact he does lot of day and night hard work to earn bread for the entire family.. but this is plain majdoori.. a deliberately set up one .. that sight of him sweating with all the broken electricals was a bit too much.. and right there with you about all that about the cow dung fall.. did khushi really enjoy the sight of her laad governor walking half naked for that public bath or being stared at when he fell full bodied?? Isn't it supposedly embarrassing.. there is no sensitivity or humor but it was plain crass..
we get a pool side giggling water pipe bath for Shyam- Anj and for Arshi.. this!! Not Fair.
Anyway, not sure if Khushi is uncomplicated.. I guess she is only thing is she manages to make everything complicated.. right from running away with their shop papers on Payal's wedding day..
 
Her pain palpable and his regret.. this love and life is indeed complicated..
 
Great edits..
 
thanks rhea


Thank you horizon πŸ˜Š .  Way too long for that episode but you read through it all.. Something inexplicable about the man.. brings out all sorts of things from within us.. we want him to remain the rough dashing tycoon..not turn into this nice decent traditional hero kind of guy.. Agree about the mechanic thing. Had absolutely nothing special in it. Felt contrived. And you already read my stand on that embarrassing fall to follow. oh I also so badly want him to charm her, sweep her of her feet, make her blush, increase her dhak dhaks, not have a chance to resist him. can never be enough of that..

Haha And Khushi does makes things complicated. Buaji does call the parmeshwari for a reason. And didn't she remark one time.. Khushi nai ..naam khudkhushi hona chahiye tha.. but overall i do think she is uncomplicated. or rather likes to stay away from complications.. falling in love call it acidity.. heart ache how to survive.. force yourself to face it with a smile and a plan of swami torture.. part of her needs unravelling.. her need to please.. her need to be accepted.. but those complicated parts of her are safely locked away. For us to be aware of. maybe that one more shatir dimag guy to know. but not the girl herself. What do you think? I just wrote lots about Khushi in my 242. So have been thinking about her a lot.. that is why this talkative spurt in me ☺️..


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Posted: 10 years ago
stupendous as usual.
there are some good points you pondered, which I absolutely agree. slipping on cow dung and the forced Rabba vey was annoying to watch. We love to see them soppy, but not like this.
all the lines I marked blue are my favorite.
My comments are in purple.


Thank you for liking Sohara. And for all those comments.. I look forward to them so much.. makes me smiles.. also the ones who whisper for my ears only πŸ˜›.. I don't know about ASR's clients but now you have me wondering about the lucky girls who must have worked in Barun's office with him. Did anyone get any work done?! 

And Sanaya is really gorgeous. I liked her as gunjan from mile jab hum tum. Her character was also quite different. In fact I liked her so much that my friend suggested I should watch this show of hers. And I started watching IPK around November last year.. Years after you all actually.. And I still feel so thrilled to know I have you all to share this experience with.. πŸ€—
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would he suddenly remember a fiery young girl who was loopy but sharp and who had stirred him immeasurably with her possibilities, stunned him with her utter beauty and sensuality... 

Hi Indi di.. oooh I liked Queen too. Makes you feel so good to see a girl like rani. Liberating feel actually.. And isn't the acting good too? I confess I watched IPK because I liked Sanaya as Gunjan. but stuck on for ASR or rather what Barun did to..with..ASR. 
What you say about Shashi Gupta I completely agree. In fact then garima hadn't been thought of this way, I get a feeling. She was still ambiguous. Of course now I am wishing I can be a mother-in-law like her to my son-in-law some day.. Payal was taking no nonsense from ASR. Wow right? And Khushi Kumari Gupta.. Uff.. something just perfect, real, captivating about her then. Once she starts caring more about people and less about what comes from instinct it never was the same again. Well she always did care about people but still managed to do her own thing before.. And I specially like what you say about Arnav seeing tremendous potential in her. admiring her spirit.. and also finding her beautiful. call me pagal but I think these things are very important in love.
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Posted: 10 years ago


come fall with me
through the girdles of time
touching each instant that time did spell
so you and i could fall through every single one
together, fall with me

come fall with me
through every fear the mind does spin
i'll hold you, let your heart harness me
even if every fear comes haunting and comes
true, fall with me

come fall with me
or what is this dark space this prismatic creation for
if you and i will not plunge into one another
and let it all go in one single terrifying
unifying fall, fall with me

come fall with me
let me fall and find my end my echo in you
fall in me and leave eternity there
you and i till that and between us does go
forever, hamesha fall with me

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