20 years leap- creative decision or deliberate attempt to destroy

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Posted: 11 years ago

hello everyone 😊

as the topic name easily tells you that the content is about the 20 years leap . but not any comparision of actors popularity , but for the way the 2nd generation story was deliberately ruined by the cvs . the second generation includes arjun , purvi , ovi , soham , sachin , onir, teju , punni etc . i wanted to make the topic earlier also but i was busy so couldn't do it.

FIRST GENERATION

first generation story was loved by everyone because of its strong content. . i noticed that a lot of issues where shown which had a strong impact on people. many issues like marriage of uneducated girl , dowry greedy mother-in-law, son and daughter-in-law throwing old parents out of home, extreme carrier oriented woman , husband having a secret wife/lover , pre marital baby, molestation , mental and physical harrasement of a girl for marriage , domestic violence , over ambitious husband etc . these issues along with the other necessary twist and turns made the show reach to so many people.not to forgot love , respect and spirit to fight , from weak to strong enough for fighting with the world.

THIRD GENERATION

till now we have seen that how a girl handles her siblings and home alone, a drunkard father , handling a mentally disturbed husband, the burning issue of rape , dowry greedy parents , denial in acceptance of a rape victim person as a daughter-in-law , money greedy daughter-in-law etc . i guess is just 6 months to the leap so this much is enough . even these issues are present in real life somewhere

but my point is where were the so called creatives of the show from december 2011 till october 2013 ❓ why was the second generation ignored when so many issues were there to be focused on by the them😲 dont tell me that what issues were there in second generation and how to utilise them. i can tell you the issues:

pre maritial baby, unwed mother condition in society, re marriage of a divorcee women , marriage of an unwed mother, people's thinking towards a divorcee , inter caste marriage , adjustment in a different cultured family , educating a goon and making him a part of society , human organ traficking etc to name a few , even after having so many issues in this second generation still they never shown properly in the show . CAN I ASK WHY 😡😡 . ekta and her pets were busy in making love triangle. square pentagon etc, the awful double pregnancy track🤪 stupid sacrifices , making strong characters weak day by day in the name of freaking creativity.😲

USAGE OF ACTORS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE CHARACTERS

FIRST GENERATION

there were so many characters in first generation and their lifes were shown properly. lets rewind:

archana manav - the story belonged to them , it showed how arman got married ,the problems they had , their poverty , their struggle, their love etc

satish varsha - they showed that how over ambitiousness can lead to problems in family. a strong headed girl and an mature boy , how she killed her own child for her carrier and its consequences and atlast the seperation.

vaishali dharmesh madhavi - a man who already love someone and kid with that girl , marries another girl and delberately distroys their life, how vaishali asks for justice and how everything is done by crooked dramesh and madhvi's incomplete love and off course the child.

manjusha vinod- a typical couple , where the wife is money minded , not caring about the in laws ,throwing old parents out of home for the sake of property

manohar sulochna - an old couple thinking about their kids and how they face problems and of course getting pain from their own kids.

damodar savita - a money greedy woman and a drunkard husband , with an add of humour and negativity how they behave with everyone

sachin shravani - a love couple, but unfortunately got seperated as sachin died, a pre marital baby , the way she came between arman and then how did she went away.

ajith vandita - a girl forced to get married to someone who molested her , insulting her publically , domestic violence on her etc

dk ashna - a loving wife and an extremely workholic husband , who doesnt want to see anything apart from his business , how does he change his views

not to forgot that rasika tai and few other people also played an important there .

THIRD GENERATION

i think its just 6 months right now so nothing can be explained , but still i would say that atleast every character has been utilised in some way or the other.

now coming to second generation, how brutally they ruined the story line is well known to all , let me think if there was something beyond what was shown.

arjun - introduced as one of the most strong and attractive character , faced the worst character assaination. initial he fought for love and then within one episode was made so weak , which is beyond imagination. the fighter in him is not shown at all.

purvi - initially one of the most strong headed character in the show and i dont think i even have to tell that how day by day the character was made only to show crying and doing silly things.pre martial baby , unwed mother such delicate issues were not at all enhanced . instead of showing purvi getting married for the sake of baby , they could have shown how she struggles and handles the problem of being an unwed mother in this orthodox society.

ovi - atleast this character has shown some growth . although i dont have liking towards ovi , but still i wanted her character to move on and had bright carrier . she should have shown moving forward with a new guy. even if cvs were keen on showing ovi's daughter , they could have shown that she got married to a good guy and have a daughter. even if they wanted to show arovi daughter, they could have made a suspense on it and revealed it after 20 years leap , it would have created more suspense. they could have shown that difficulties for ovi's marriage as she was a divorcee (some people still had that orthodox thinking about divorcee women)

onir - although he was not my favorite but i still felt he was a nice guy. instead of showing him married to purvi , they could have shown that how he helps and stands by purvi in tough times . if he was not married to purvi, who knows maybe he could have been a good life partner to ovi also.

infact onir shallini story was also rushed a lot without any sensibility.

soham - this character was so amazing , i really liked soham . the shades of soham were awesome. it was so good to see the transformation from vishnu to soham , but all of a sudden the drastic change in character and the way soham is ruined is beyond repair now.

sachin - this is one of the least utilised character . being the eldest son of the family , no importance or growyth was shown in this character.

teju - another standing poll character . unnecessary wastage of character. even the sunny track was shown , it could have been taken further and showed the problems of inter caste marriage and their adjustments.

punni- an evil character, they could have shown how it changes or becomes more evil and creates problem for others. but it was ended abruptly.

apart from these characters , sunny and his family , ruchi , aniket. mittal so many characters were not at all utilised properly.

Edited by ashvikian4life - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago

few more things are to be added upon it:

time factor - the show started on 1st june 2009 and took a leap on december 2011 that means after 2.5 years . the first generation story got a time span of 2.5 years , but when it came to 2nd generaton

they took a big leap on october 2013 , i.e 1 year 9 months ,can i ask why such thing happened . not even two years completed and the leap came . if i am not wrong ankita moved out because of the next gen leap , the news came on november 2012 , that means within 1 year of 1st leap.😕

parellel tracks - in the first leap we saw that arman and arvi track were going side by side , infact arman had a proper track till the reunion , but in the second leap, arvi were shown just as cameos and the whole story focused on othird generation characters.

looks and age - the first generation brought in many new characters. look i am not taunting anybody on looks but see vinod, manjusha, archana , manav, varsha , they all looked a bit more matured than the younger generation of arjun ovi purvi soham . they didnt looked like parents but atleast they looked a bit more older and matured than these newcomers. but the most of the third generation haracters looks either of the age of second gen actors or older than them. from no where the second generation actors looked a bit more matured than this third generation actors apart from the kids of course.

so many factors like this makes me wonder that the degradation of characters and story of 2nd generation was done deliberately for weird reasons.

the second generation had great new talents, but instead of exploring them they exploited them. even the second generation was getting recognition and not to forget the growing popularity of arvi , still ekta destroyed everything.

atleast the first leap was planned and done when the story of all the characters were utilised ,but here half of the characters are not utilised and half are destroyed . not to forget the strong characters were made weaker day by day.

the trashy way the second generation actors especially ashvik were treated is so shameful . ekta should be thankful to these actors that even after getting such treatment they are still respecting her.

even these shamless people didnt spared ashvik in the last days of their shoot , having another show to shoot plus the injury and all still they shoot for the show and many of their scenes were edited out.

i was so angry on ashvik that they stayed back after the leap , but later it was revealed that 🤬 production house begged them to stay till the time the new gen. characters are established , such ruthless and mean people.

i am just very much annoyed by the way the actors , characters and story of second generation was treated. the dirty politics played on them by ekta kapoor and her pets is inhuman.😡 karma is b***h , it will bite back you ekts kapoor , you have to pay for it.

sorry for writing a long post , but i felt it was necessary.

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ChannaMereya

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Posted: 11 years ago

Lol first generation wasnt treated properly either .shravani jaywant ashna many stories were left untd .Dharmesh story was left untold and many more their was no need for leap ht shoukd have been treated properly . And what jaap of second gen look younger and what not to each its own first generation was ill treated too .

Karma is bitch and rightly but hey ek is boss and has brains nahi toh if badua on her worked toh abhi tak she wouldnt exist and regarding popularity fortunate ly unfortunately is trp story ek wants trp which pvr kept declining and tat is reason ek is desperate she had no show which is giving her high trp at this moment ja is so tat is her fav shoe. She is businesses women she cant work on wims and fancies of actors or their fans . It is pure business

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 11 years ago

First generation stories had GLARING loopholes and horrible twists.. Manav-Archana the eternal insaaniyat ke devtas got divorced for someone else's bhalaai, then they decided to give away their own baby to someone else, Varsha-Savita had psychiatrist issues, handled very badly. Worst was Vandita's rape track- she was shown to marry the guy who tried to rape her and was abused later,her story was later left uncomplete when the first 20 year leap took place, Satish, Vaishali's story was left incomplete, so many other things happened bcos of which the viewers were so pissed off that we were PRAYING for Sushant-Ankita to leave the show.. Sushant is one of the rare celebrities who had such a smooth walk out from PR bcos his fans were RELIEVED that he was quitting PR.. there were no petitions to Ekta, no one sent mails anywhere, no one asked him to stay back..THIS much his fans were fed up of the show.

I am not saying PR was a bad show or the first generation story was worse than second generation.. if that had been so then I wud have not watched the show at all... what I am trying to say is that every generation story has had a lot of points when the story was good and interesting and many points where the show has SUCKED.. it's not like Ekta deliberately made a good story for first and third generation and a bad one for the second generation... this assumption itself is RIDICULOUS to say the least.. she is a BUSINESSWOMAN, she would want her serial to do well, she is putting her own MONEY in the show, why would she want to hurt the show by deliberately giving a bad story to one generation? I have read posts saying she had vendettas and agendas against some actors and hence a bad story was deliberately made for them.. wah.. what a style to take badla.. wouldn't it just be easier to throw the actors out of the show rather than ruin your own show and ALSO pay such high amounts per day basis to these same actors? Who takes revenge this way? Gah!

The simple fact is Ekta has twisted writers who can write good stuff and have proved it time and again, but at many times they resort to the most pathetic and illogical twists cos at the end of the day this is what helps the show sell! There is nothing like one generation is favoured more and one generation's story was bad! You say third generation has been favoured more- simple question- WHY HAS THE SERIAL BEEN SHIFTED TO 6.30 PM SLOT THEN?

The simple reason for this question- Ekta is a businesswoman. She needs a prime time slot to help her new show do well hence opted to get Pavitra Rishta shifted to an evening slot. Ekta is the last person who resorts to silly favouritism and politics of 'make the story bad for this generation and good for this generation'. She is a businesswoman, her MONEY goes in this show. When a show runs out of steam or TRP's drop, she takes a leap- she has done it in EVERY of her past shows. When her females lead want to quit, she will do ANYTHING to make them stay, male leads walking out doesn't affect her that much.

All fans feel that their favourites are always the worst treated but come on, just analyse it a little and think practically- no one likes to ruin a perfectly running profit giving show, certainly NOT the producer of the show.

PS: Also I find it weird how much Ekta is cursed all the time by fans of the actors that too when she hasn't done something so horrendous to deserve this.. rather she is the one who gave these actors such a good break and bcos of her all of them have secure futures now with loaded bank accounts, fame and fan following.. I am NOT a fan of Ekta at all, but no matter how much crappy her shows get from time to time, I can't refuse it that she is the one who gave these actors a break.. now I can understand if fans of someone like Pulkit Samrat cursed her cos she actually tried to ruin his career, but regarding others I am just 😕

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: crazyRajputfan
Lol first generation wasnt treated properly either .shravani jaywant ashna many stories were left untd .Dharmesh story was left untold and many more their was no need for leap ht shoukd have been treated properly . And what jaap of second gen look younger and what not to each its own first generation was ill treated too .
Karma is bitch and rightly but hey ek is boss and has brains nahi toh if badua on her worked toh abhi tak she wouldnt exist and regarding popularity fortunate ly unfortunately is trp story ek wants trp which pvr kept declining and tat is reason ek is desperate she had no show which is giving her high trp at this moment ja is so tat is her fav shoe. She is businesses women she cant work on wims and fancies of actors or their fans . It is pure business

i know ekta kapoor can find out good actors and amazing couples , but after a point of time she herself destroys the good story . atleast in first generation almost all the characters were given a bit screen time and there stories were shown , may be asusual ekta destroyed their stories too . but the second generation most of the characters were nt all used only , and the ones that were used were also overly exploited, that is known by all.

like you feel there was no need of 18 years of leap , similarly i feel that there was no need of 20 years of leap. the first generation got atleast 2.5 years for their story , but the second generation couldn't even get 2 years properly.

like some do a daily jaap of TRPs and awards , so others can also do. i dont think i have told anything like a jaap . i have not even told that any actor/actress looks ugly , did i ?i just told the second generation actors mostly looks kidish infront of many first and third generation actors , there is no insult of any actors/actress if they look kidish or a bit mature.

if you compare , first generation story with that of second generation honestly , then it will be crystal clear that which story line was treated in the worst way.

pr was declining in trps because of ekta's fault only . if you show worst story lines with baseless concepts, definately people will move away from her show and the trp will be down , an actors/actressses popularity also can't help it.

after seeing the way she treated the second generation characters and actors , i doubt she can utilise her brains properly😕 she is a boss and desperate to have trps but for that ruining a budding storyline is out my understanding.

ekta doesnt listens to the wihm is something i dont believe anymore. may be before ekta would have not listened to anybody's whims but now she definately listens but of course not of this newcomers

its not badua , its a fact that karma is a bitch , may be an egoistic women like ekta is safe now but who knows whats on future , i still say ekta will definately pay for the dirty politics she played.

and of course you can never agree to me because its my POV and of course the prime reason that i am an ashvikian

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Jagruti

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Posted: 11 years ago

I would blame the creatives of the show..i dont know I have not watched PR much before ArVi's characters were introduced but yes I had seen few episodes..atleast the tracks were bearable unlike the tracks shown in second generation..!
I guess never in Television have cv's butchered the characters of their leads to such extent that people would start to hate them..this thing happened with Arjun Purvi..Arjun Purvi's characters were butchered beyond anything..its not like they are my favs thats why i'm saying this..i watch a lot of shows and never have I seen character assassination to such extent!
First six months of leap were amazing..Things got crazy after Arjun Ovi marriage,Double pregnancy..and then Baby swapping track which was like a final blow to viewers..after that many of us stopped watching the show I guess(including me)..started to watch the show again only when they started to show arjun purvi together!
anyways Arjun Purvi got famous..their jodi their chemistry is something that had me watching this show even with such disgusting tracks!
Cv's are the ones to blame..dont know what happened to their brains after Arjun Ovi marriage..such experienced creatives writing tracks like Double Pregnancy and Baby swapping *shakes head*
If only Arvi ovi and Soham's track had been dealt nicely..if only cv's had utilized actor's talents properly !
So glad that AshVik left this show :)

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ChannaMereya

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Posted: 11 years ago

Haha ppl acyually believe ek kistens to wims yeah right darling .she threw smriti out of ksbkt and no she doesnt and even when she does it is them whom she think are talented as simple as that .it is business at end of day u will chose ur best employees and other get wrath so if ek budges it is for her own selfish reason.And yeah whats with being with ashvikians u guys are umm ones who cant handlr criticism .Ekta will stoo favouring ram ronit sakshi day their work is bad .it is pure business and fortunately or unfortunately even actors dont do charity and they should not it is work for them as well so dufficult to understand.

Karma is bitch is one ecploited phrase like humbleness used by fans as their whins and fancies inc me lmao

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Candylicious

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Posted: 11 years ago

Before the first 18 years leap, it was good storey that could be related to real life happenings in society. After the 18 years leap the storey was good but only to be destroyed with utter nonsense storey. The second generation storey was ruined the moment one character decide to quit. So it is a deliberate attempt and the reason is so obvious.

It is a pity that characters like Arvi, Ovi, Teju, Punni, Onir and Sunny talents was not utilize. The CVs and PH could have made the most out of these characters but what a waste. Well sure they have better opportunity on their way.

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Posted: 11 years ago

@ TM.. i somewhat agree to your post. even though first generation was also not treated well, the second gen was given a pathetic treatment... there were so many issues which could have been properly shown..

and there was a terrible character assassination of arvi.

arjun, a strong headed business man became a weak lovelorn two timing person.

purvi, the sweetest and sacrificing type girl made many wrong decisions even though she was trying to help others.

if the cvs wanted to make arvi together in the end, why did they bring that deal story and got arovi married?

arOvi and punir were nice couple and people had started appreciating it, then y did they break it to unite the leads?

if arvi loved each other they have every right to be together so accepted ... but then again why seperate them for 20 years?

arjun, ovi, purvi all 3 lead a lonely life for 20 years...

a beautiful story with a terrible twist...

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Originally posted by: rkis
Before the first 18 years leap, it was good storey that could be related to real life happenings in society. After the 18 years leap the storey was good but only to be destroyed with utter nonsense storey. The second generation storey was ruined the moment one character decide to quit. So it is a deliberate attempt and the reason is so obvious.

It is a pity that characters like Arvi, Ovi, Teju, Punni, Onir and Sunny talents was not utilize. The CVs and PH could have made the most out of these characters but what a waste. Well sure they have better opportunity on their way.

yes...

the characters were not utilised properly..

sachin and teju didnt have any role...

and arjun having children from two woman twice dint make any sense...😕

Arjun's charcter wa severely butchered...

they could have shown him married to purvi and living happily with her and pari😳 and could have introduced a guy who falls head over heels with ovi... or..

they could have shown arjun married to ovi and slowly realizing his feelings for her and then their baby pia would have come to this world.

the story that was shown didnt impress any of the fan group.. neither ovi, onir or arvi...😭