StarPanchali's Patiyogita - p142: Pre-Vastra Haran Tally

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Hello Folks!šŸ˜›šŸ˜›
A warm welcome to you all.šŸ¤—
There has been much debate on this forum about who is Panchali's Pati No. 1. Who of the Pandavas loved her the most. This post will not answer that question for you.šŸ˜† Draupadi does not appear to have kept tally..šŸ˜•.alternately, Rishi Veda Vyas had more important details to note then who got what flowers for Mahabharat's Yagaseni.šŸ˜†šŸ˜† So while many may acclaim Bheem to be Pati No. 1 without a full record and analysis of the Pandavas marriage to Panchali šŸ‘ŽšŸ¼we cannot really assess who was truly PANCHALI'S PATI NO.1. But, friends let us not lose heart. 😳While we cannot judge history, which remains a mystery, we can TRACK THE PRESENT and have our own analysis.šŸ‘šŸ¼So,presenting to you all:šŸ˜Ž
Starbharat Paanchaali Patiyogita

Key Points of This Analysis
1.We will keep a running tally of the care, concern, connection each of the Pandava Princes express for their Patni Panchali in StarBharat. 😳

2.We will try to score the candidates objectively. For further details please see post 2. šŸ¤“

3.We welcome your post episode input daily on which princes should be awarded points and why. šŸ‘šŸ¼

4.The score for the most recent episode will be updated in the 3rd post along with rationales.ā­ļø

5.Progress Graph: Shyam09 will chart the progress of the princes in post 5 and post updates on an weekly basis at the end of the week. šŸ˜‰

6.PATI of the Week: ...Poojie... assess this weekly on Sundays. Please check 4th post for details. šŸ˜›

7.Awards for the Pati Of The Week: Abhishek_King will provide banners for the POWs.Shyam09 will provide trophies for them. Special Icons or Avis will also be there too.😊😊

8.Standout Performer Of The Week: ...Poojie... assess this also weekly on Sundays. Shyam09 generally makes gifs on the scenes of SOWs.😳😳

State of Competition Now:

Pandava Princes

Total to Date

Daily Score

Updated Total

1. Yuddhi

71.19

-0.47

70.72

2. Bheem

53.45

-0.87

52.58

3. Arjun

52.88

-3.87

49.01

4. Nakul

6.71

-1.2

5.51

5. Sahadev

9.41

-1.2

8.21

Scores for first week: Y=10.96, B=9.46, A=11.96, N=2.80, S=2.80
Scores for 2nd week: Y=25.72, B=17.72, A=15.72, N=5.90, S=5.40
Scores for 3rd week:: Y=29.42, B=18.42, A=19.42, N=7.10, S=9.60
Scores for 4th week: Y=45.92, B=26.92, A=33.42, N=7.10, S=10.60
Scores for 5th week: Y=52.16, B=30.16, A=47.41, N=7.35, S=10.85
Scores for 6th week: Y=78.36, B=32.89, A=40.61, N=10.08, S=13.88
GRADES on April 3/14: Y=76.11, B=43.14, A=47.86, N=16.18, S=15.98
Scores for 7th week: Y=73.00, B=54.34, A=48.77, N=11.33, S=14.03
Pre-VH Scores: Y=70.72, B=52.58, A=49.01, N=5.51, S=8.21

Rules:
1.This is a fun post - hopefully your sentiments are strong enough survive some lighthearted humor.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


2.So, if you want to argue why your favorite prince should get more points or another less then please press your case. Unlike King Dhrit we promise to hear first judge later.šŸ˜‰


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Positive Pati Points
1. Care n Concern: if a prince expresses care or concern for Panchali he will earn a point. This includes things like asking her opinion, holding her hand on rough geographic terrain, helping her down from chariots, etc. The expression need not be verbal - looks of concern will be valued.


2. Communication n Connectivity: Princes will also be awarded a point for maintaining communication with Princess Panchali - be it verbal or non-verbal (i.e. eye locks, nods, etc.).


3. Honour: Each prince will earn a point for defending their Panchali's honour either verbally or in deed (i.e. killing/punishing those who have insulted her).


4. Gifting: Princes will earn points for gifts.


5. Make Up: Princes will be also be awarded point for efforts they make to sooth Panchali's hurt feelings when she is upset or mad.


6. Mark Sharing: If an act is shared by more than one prince then the point - i.e. giving Draupadi adhikaar to go to Bhisma or gathering firewood then the marks will be split by the princes involved.




Negative Marks

1.Staking the Princess

2.Not objecting to her being staked

3.Marrying another Princess post marriage to Panchali*

4.Bringing home another Princess post marriage

5.Romantic moments with other Princesses**

6.Violating vows to her




*Please note - negative points will be awarded for other wives only if they are specifically shown or mentioned in StarBharat.
**Children symbolize a romantic moment with mom, so any children with another wife post-Panchali will be a negative point.
***Loving children will never ever garner any pati negative points.

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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Adopting Poojie's Analysis

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Final Grading Analysis - April 8, 2014

3

3
33Y,B,N,S object Panchali's Vastraharan.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS angry look when the entire sabha objects VH.

0





Yudi agrees they are das-dasi but what sort of punishment is this? (-1+1 = 0)

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS look at Panchali when she disagrees to be a dasi.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS mutely agree when Panchali says Kingdom is won by bal not chal.






When Bheeshma becomes helpless, YBANS sad look is more towards Bheeshma than Panchali.

-0.8

-0.8-0.8-0.8-0.8YBANS sad look when Bheeshma agrees that Draupadi is a dasi now. But since they don't oppose -1 has to be deducted.

-1

-1-1-1-1YBANS silence when Karna angrily calls out Draupadi.

-0.2

-0.2-0.2-0.2-0.2YBANS take some time before they join hands before Dury. They were busy looking at each other. Bheeshma was the first one to join hands.

1

1111YBANS join hands in front of Dury. I am awarding them each one point since this is more significant and hence should be given more than a split point. But Panchali is not impressed, maybe since she expected them to fight. Panchali isn't impressed, but they are trying...

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS get angry when Dury refuses forgive Panchali.

-0.8

-0.8-0.8-0.8-0.8YBANS sad look + muteness when Dury orders Dushy to disrobe Panchali. (0.2 -1 = -0.8)

-3

-3-3-3-3YBANS angry look + muteness when Karna insults Panchali. I think Karna insults her 4 times (not counting the aam/bhang dialogue) (1 - 4 = -3)

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

YBANS muteness when Dury orders Dushy again to disrobe Panchali.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS look at Panchali when she tells them to go quiet.

0.6

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look at Panchali's monologue after she tells them to go silent. Yudi has 2 extra shots.

0.33

0.330.33

YBA's sad look when Panchali says now God only will protect her.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look when Panchali gets into the centre stage and calls out Dushy.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look when Panchali folds her hands.







(-0.47)

(-0.87)(-3.87)(-1.2)(-1.2)Total for Today before Panchali VH

71.19

53.4552.886.719.41Since the total on the 1st pg is not updated, can't do the grand total. so 5% deduction can't be made.

70.72

52.5849.015.518.21Grand total before Panchali VH




We can deduct the 5% of the marks from beginning of tomorrow's episode. As it is the VH is tomorrow only.

(-0.47)

(-0.87)(-3.87)(-1.2)(-1.2)

TOTAL TALLY for today.


Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago
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~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~

~~WINNER~~

Week 7 - PATI OF THE WEEK - DAAS BHEEM

Scores for the week:
Yudi - (73 - 78.36) = (-5.36)
Bheem - (53.34 - 32.89) = 20.45
Arjun - (48.77 - 40.41) = 8.36
Nakul - (11.33 - 10.08) = 1.25
Sahadev - (14.03 - 13.88) = 0.15

Growth:
Yudi - ((73 - 78.36)/78.36) = (-0.07)
Bheem - ((53.34 - 32.89)/32.89) = 0.62
Arjun - ((48.77 - 40.41)/40.41) = 0.21
Nakul - ((11.33 - 10.08)/10.08) = 0.12
Sahadev - ((14.03 - 13.88)/13.88) = 0.01

Ranking: Bheem = 5, Arjun = 4, Nakul = 3, Sahadev = 2, Yudi = 1


Standout Performance: Bheem earns 10 points for his pran of breaking Dushasan's hands for dragging Panchali by her hair.



Credit for the gif: Krishna_Nair

Yudi = (-5.36)(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = (-1.96)
Bheem = 20.45(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 10(0.1) = 12.5
Arjun = 0.21(0.45) + 4(0.45) + (0.1) = 1.89
Nakul = 1.25(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 1.91
Sahadev = 0.15(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 0.97

Hence Bheem is the winner!! 😊


Credit for the trophy: Shyam09



Credit for the gifs: chippedcupofchai/Tumblr


Credit for the banner: Abhishek_King

Edited by ....Poojie.... - 11 years ago
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Dharma-Ke-Pratik: Yuddhistira

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Vrikodhara: Bhimasen


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Gandeeva Dhari: Arjunnaaa Damn That Eye Lock

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The Handsome and Dashing: Nakula

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Phoorvabhasing Pati: Sahadeva

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Sabhi Pratiyogitas Overall (updated/replaced weekly)


Link to Google Drive Spreadsheet Page!

Edited by shyam09 - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

You now have PREVIEW of VastraHaran. So, you are welcome to change your minds. But, please CLEARLY VOTE for 1 Option ONLY. So Far its
Option A: Sabhayata, Poojie, Bheegi, PujaM, Amritat, ssroomani, Urmilla, PrincessN, Darklight, Option B: Yukhti
Option C: Shani, Diala, sscomp32, Shyam, nikki, Rihan05, Devashree, Abhi-P, Aparnauma, Khusi, Dixie, RonMione4ever, SimplyAppie, Rushika, KrishnaN, BrishtiSarkar, Abhishek
Option D:

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~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~

~~~~CALCULATIONS FOR THE PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~

PATI OF THE WEEK = HIGHEST POINTS + BEST GROWTH OVER THE WEEK + STANDOUT PERFORMANCE

Weightage: 45% (Highest points) + 45% (Best Growth) + 10% (Standout Performance)

For calculating Highest points, we will multiply each candidate's points by 0.45 (45%). From week 3 onwards, we would only be factoring the weekly performance and not the total till date. So highest points = This week's score - last week's score.

For calculating Best Growth, we will be ranking them, for. eg. if Nakul grew the most he gets 5, Sahadev next so he gets 4..etc. We will then multiply the rank number by 0.45 (45%). To calculate the best growth, we will be using this equation =( (This week's total - Last week's total)/ Last week's total)

For calculating standout performance, the one chosen candidate will be earn fixed 10 points which when multiplied by 0.1 (10%) will get him an extra 1 point.

Adding these three figures will get us the grand total and the one with the highest figure is the winner. 😊

Example: Credit goes to Anjana

Hypothetical situation

Scores for the week: Arjun 10 pts, Nakul 8, Bheem 6
Standout performance: Bheem gets 10 pts
Growth = if Nakul grew most he is given 5, Arjun 2, Bheem 1


Arjuna = 10(.45) + 2 X.45 + 0 (0.10) = 5.4
Nakul= 8 (.45) + 5 X 0.45 +0 (0.10) = 5.85
Bheem= 6 (.45)+ 1 X 0.45 + 10(0.10) = 4.15

So, winner is Nakul!

~~WINNERS~~

Please check the calculations for each week on the respective Pg Nos.

Week 1 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 13)

Week 2 - PATI OF THE WEEK - CROWN PRINCE YUDHISTHIR (Pg 41)

Week 3 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE SAHADEV(Pg 61)

Week 4 - PATI OF THE WEEK - KING YUDHISTHIR (Pg 101)

Week 5 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 132)


The Pg Nos till Week 5 corresponds to this thread:
Week 6 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR (Pg 31)

Week 7 - PATI OF THE WEEK - DAAS BHEEM (Pg 112)
Edited by ....Poojie.... - 11 years ago
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look at nakul's score...even sahdev bt i am more concerned with nakul's...he can never win this pratiyogita ever...😭
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Final Grading Analysis - April 8/14, p.142

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33Y,B,N,S object Panchali's Vastraharan.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS angry look when the entire sabha objects VH.

0





Yudi agrees they are das-dasi but what sort of punishment is this? (-1+1 = 0)

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS look at Panchali when she disagrees to be a dasi.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS mutely agree when Panchali says Kingdom is won by bal not chal.






When Bheeshma becomes helpless, YBANS sad look is more towards Bheeshma than Panchali.

-0.8

-0.8-0.8-0.8-0.8YBANS sad look when Bheeshma agrees that Draupadi is a dasi now. But since they don't oppose -1 has to be deducted.

-1

-1-1-1-1YBANS silence when Karna angrily calls out Draupadi.

-0.2

-0.2-0.2-0.2-0.2YBANS take some time before they join hands before Dury. They were busy looking at each other. Bheeshma was the first one to join hands.

1

1111YBANS join hands in front of Dury. I am awarding them each one point since this is more significant and hence should be given more than a split point. But Panchali is not impressed, maybe since she expected them to fight. Panchali isn't impressed, but they are trying...

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS get angry when Dury refuses forgive Panchali.

-0.8

-0.8-0.8-0.8-0.8YBANS sad look + muteness when Dury orders Dushy to disrobe Panchali. (0.2 -1 = -0.8)

-3

-3-3-3-3YBANS angry look + muteness when Karna insults Panchali. I think Karna insults her 4 times (not counting the aam/bhang dialogue) (1 - 4 = -3)

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

YBANS muteness when Dury orders Dushy again to disrobe Panchali.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS look at Panchali when she tells them to go quiet.

0.6

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look at Panchali's monologue after she tells them to go silent. Yudi has 2 extra shots.

0.33

0.330.33

YBA's sad look when Panchali says now God only will protect her.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look when Panchali gets into the centre stage and calls out Dushy.

0.2

0.20.20.20.2YBANS sad look when Panchali folds her hands.







(-0.47)

(-0.87)(-3.87)(-1.2)(-1.2)Total for Today before Panchali VH

71.19

53.4552.886.719.41Since the total on the 1st pg is not updated, can't do the grand total. so 5% deduction can't be made.

70.72

52.5849.015.518.21Grand total before Panchali VH




We can deduct the 5% of the marks from beginning of tomorrow's episode. As it is the VH is tomorrow only.

-0.47

-0.87-3.87-1.2-1.2

TOTAL TALLY for today.



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Final Grading Analysis - April 7, 2014 -p.135

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

YBANS watch Panchali land in the centre of DiceHall and Dury wants to see her blackface. She holds of Dushy on her own.

+0.6

+0.6

0.6

+0.2

+0.2

YBANS guilty look when P questioning Dhrit,Bhisma, Drona. More faceshots of YBA. Considering muteness am not giving more points for this.

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

Dhrit calls P Dasi

1

Yuddhi gives several concerned looks as P starts to scream-ask how she became a Dasi when AryaPutra Y never answered her q.

-1

Drau questions Y's adhikar to bet her after he lost himself...Y listens mutely. Vachan not to bet what he didn't have adhikar over broken. He doesn't ans so no point.

-1

-0.25

-0.25

-0.25

-0.25

Yuddhi answers Panchali that he thought she was "parivaar", P distinguishes patni"...He is then silent as she con't to question him. BANS look on mutely. Y = 1- 2 (ans - wrong ans & no answer). Mute Spectating.

2

0.5

Panchali ques Vidur. YA cry on..More soggy looks by Y till Shak intervenes

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

Shak faults her for not placing anukush on 5. They stand guiltily...

-1

-1

-1

-1

-1

She questions Pandav whether it was her fault that she didn't place ankush. Yuddhi looks extra guilty.

-1

-2

-1

-1

P demands answer from Arjuna...they all look guilty when she asks if they gave permission to Y. They don't answer...Extra negative for delaying answering, Parth.

-2

-2

-2

-2

-2

P reminds them of wedding vows to protect her. She reminds them of her sacrifice

0

Finally Parth apologizes on behalf of all. Answer cancelled by inadequacy of answer

-0.5

-0.5

-0.5

-0.5

-0.5

They all thought of their Dharma, but none thought of her. YBANS look guilty and Cry on - crediting the crying and giving on -0.5 all

YBANS angry looks at being called Napunsak by Dury...no sympathy from me..I agree!

2

3

3

2

2

5 angry looks at "Samband Banao", etc X3; YSN don't do anything though. (2) BA action anger (3)

2

Bhim's pran to break thigh

2

Arjun's pran to eat dirt

0.5

0.5

YA look upset as Dury asks Dhrit to stop disobedient Dasi

-0.8

-0.8

-0.8

-0.8

-0.8

Pandav mutely look at P when Dhrit orders her to obey Dury.

0.53

0.53

0.53

0.2

0.2

YBA look upset at Dhrit going on about disorder due to dasi disobedience. YBANS upset at Dhrit's Order for her to obey

0.33

0.33

0.33

Dury tells her to COME and YNS look at P

0.2

0.2

0.2

0.2

0.2

Pandav look upset at Vastra comment of Dury

1

1

1

1

YBNS angry look at NirVastra Order

3

Arjuna's shield move (2) & threat to Dhrit (1)

0.33

0.33

0.33

YBA look mad

3

Arjuna Objecting to VH with Dury's Maryada Mein Raho

-1.81

-0.89

4.11

-4.62

-4.62

TOTAL TALLY


@All - Looking through objections now... Even I have objections🤣🤣
1. Those complaining about Arjuna not getting enough credit for Kshama with folded hands.. He was apologizing for all and shoving the blame for four onto Jhest and Jhest's onto Dury. SO WHERE WAS THE OWNERSHIP OF RESPONSIBILITY? IF THE FOUR WERE NOT AT FAULT THEN WHAT ARE THEY APOLOGIZING FOR? WHAT AM I GIVING POINTS FOR??? PLEASE TELL ME? For meaningless tears & folded hands? Also, I didn't give Yuddhi credit for his pathetic answer either. In fact I deducted a point for his non-answer on top of the answer!

2. Agree Arjuna should get +1 for halting Dury's VH talks...I gave him +3, but forgot the angry yell at Dury. Its the protest to VH (see next point)

3. Sabhayata - you are right about Option C - Arjuna should get extramarks for objecting to VH. Am not doing deductions for all as they may as yet object today.

4. Poojie - the first deduction is for holding of Dushy on her own

5. Sabhayata - also agree we should deduct -1 from YNS for not doing anything during whole "Sambandh Banao" stuffs.

YBANSGrading Analysis - April 2/14 - p.109
1.00
Arjun requests Yudi not to answer & do adharm
-5.00
Yudi says losing Draupadi is not adharm (-1 negative mark on behalf of each of other four bros & Draupadi). He might well have re-staked her here verbally
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
BANS are upset at Yudi's answer.
1.00
Nakul says to Yudi what have you done?
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
YBANS angry look when Dury says to bring dasi Draupadi to Dushy. None protest insult except Bhim, but will spare as we already deducted for dasi insult yeterday. This is repeat
2.00
Bheem bhukamp punch. Xtra for the Force Protest
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
YANS too get up in anger.
1.00
Bheem if you touch P, I will kill you to Dushy
1.00
Arjun says I will forget the dharma
1.00
Arjun says I will bhasm you.
-0.25
-0.25
-0.25
-0.25
BANS refuse to leave Yudi when given a choice.
-1.00
Arjun also pulls Bheem back.
-0.20
-0.20
-0.20
-0.20
-0.20
YBANS silence when Dury orders Dushy to get Panchali here.
-0.80
-0.80
-0.80
-0.80
-0.80
YBANS look up at Panchali's scream. But, don't do anything. (0.2 - 1)
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
YBANS get up when Panchali gets thrown on the second floor.
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
YBANS silence when Panchali was pushed.
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
YBANS look down when Panchali looks at them. Here YBANS have an eyelock with her before looking down but don't think we can award them that point.
-2.00
-2.00
-2.00
-2.00
-2.00
YBANS staying mute when Panchali is being dragged.
1.00
1.00
1.00
1.00
1.00
YBANS shedding tears throughout the dragging.
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
YBANS lookdown as P looks at them after dragging.
3.00
B breaks swords (1) & pran to break Dushy's hands (2)
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
-1.00
YBANS silent as P gets thrown 2 dicehall centre.
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
0.20
YBANS look angry right at the end when Dury says to show her face, so being generous here.
-9.95
0.80
-2.95
-3.95
-4.95
TOTAL TALLY


YBANSGrading Analysis 04/04/2014
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
Shakuni suggest winning Panchali through stake. YBANS shocked
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
Dury stakes Bhanumati. YBANS are shocked at thought of staking Panchali
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
YBANS shocked faces when Shakuni says to Yudi to play, there is one more game left.
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
Yudi looks at BANS and they say no with their heads - refusing to bet P. Split Point
3
Bheem says Impossible. Objects Panchali's staking.
3
Sahadev objects Panchali's staking.
1
Yudi listens into Bheem and Sahadev's objections.
0.5
0.5
BA's angry look when Shakuni orders Yudi to sit and play.
3
Yudi objects Panchali's staking.
2
Bheem says if Panchali's honour is lost then those hands need to be burnt. Bheem's pran to burn Yudi's hands.
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
ANS determined look at Bheem's pran. Yuddhi agrees too.
0.33
0.33
0.33
BA's angry look when Dury orders Y to play. Y upset too
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
YBANS angry look at Dushy when he says it is impt for Yudi to have pride on Panchali as well.
0.13
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
BANS angry yell at Duryodhan when he insults Panchali. Split Point. Yudi's passive angry look (1/2 of 0.25)
0.33
0.33
0.33
YBA's angry look at Dury after Bheeshma's shrap on Dury
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
YBANS angry look when Ashwathama insults Panchali.
0.5
0.5
BA has more intense angry look at Ashwathama
1
Bheem looks angry when Karna insults Panchali.
2
Arjun objects to Karna insulting Panchali and shraps him
1
Yudi given a point for still not having started playing even after Shakuni/Dury has ordered him many times.
0.33
0.33
0.33
YBA's angry look at Shakuni when he says that Yudi is not proud of Draupadi.
3
Yudi gives a full lecture on how he is proud of Draupadi.
0.5
0.5
Arjun's stamp of approval and Bheem too agrees
1
Yudi throws away the pawns
0.5
Yudi says every bodycell will fight to win & keep Panchali. But, he is betting her so. 0.5
0.5
Yudi says to bring new dices and pawns - trying to make game fair. But, he is betting her so. 0.5
2
0.5
0.5
Yudi crushes the dices. BA's approved look
1
0.5
0.5
Yudi says either follow my orders or give me death penalty this instant. BA's angry look
0.33
0.33
0.33
BA's angry when Shakuni orders to get new dices. Yudi's shame faced look at Bhishma.
0.5
0.5
BA'a tears when Shakuni finally orders Yudi to stake Draupadi.
15.9
11.8
8.02
1.7
4.7
Pre-Stake Totals of all
' Tally from April 3 : Y=76.11, B=43.14, A=47.86, N=16.18, S=15.98
-9.2
Yudi stakes Panchali. (10% of 76.11+15.7)
-2.79
-0.9
Nakula & Arjuna did not object verbally -Deduction
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
BANS upset look when Yudi picks up the dices.
0.25
0.25
0.25
0.25
BANS upset looks throughout when Yudi plays the game
1
Yudi's sad/determined look throughout the game
1
Yudi's shocked look when the dices fall 12.
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.2
YBANS devastated when Panchali is lost.
0.33
0.33
0.33
Yudi's tears starts to flow. Arjun, Bheem's tears continue to flow.
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
YBANS angry tears at Dury saying Pandavas maha garv is Panchali sarcastically. But are SILENT at Insult (0.2 - 1)
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
YBANS upset look when Dury says Panchali will come as a dasi. It is insult because she isn't dasi - she will not accept her staking (0.2 - 1)
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
-0.8
YBANS upset look when Dury orders his attendant to bring Panchali into the sabha. Remain silent to insult - Lady in Dyut Sabha (0.2-1)
6.84
10.4
3.86
-0.9
1.8
Total Tally

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


Y

B

A

N

S

FINAL Grading Analysis - April 3, 2014 - p.84

2

Nakul questions Yuddhi to stop him

0.25

0.25

0.25

0.25

BANS try with their faces to stop Yuddhi from staking himself - passive


1

Sahadev gives one last try 2 stop Yuddhi with "Bhrata" - not a full blown effort

-2

Yuddhi agrees to play and stakes himself

0.33

0.33

0.33

Dury orders Panchali to come into Sabha. YBA look angry

1

Arjun's ASAMBAV

0.25

0.25

0.25

0.25

BANS Angry look

2

Arjuna says if Panchali is insulted there will be bloodshed. Its not a Pran so 1 pt, but he said P's name specifically so 2 pts

0.5

0.5

Yuddhi & Arjuna are angry

2

Bheem says he has 2 dharam - 1 is to protect family. His strength enough

1

Y's angry look at Dury

0.33

0.33

0.33

YAB's angry look at Dury after Drona's words

0.2

0.2

0.2

0.2

0.2

YABNS angry look post Draupadi bet statement by Shakuni

0.36

3.36

4.86

2.70

1.70

Total Tally

Objections/Comments:
1. Arjuna and Bhims statements were not Prans/vows... more like threats.
2. Bheem gets 2 pts - 1 for the family part that includes (Panchali) and the bloodshed is also in reference to their threat about bringing Panchali...its not about Pandava insult or subjugation.
3. Extra point awarded to Arjuna for specifically referencing "Panchali" following objections & 5 votes in favor of awarding him (Poojie, Shani, Rushika, Abhi-P, Nivithi, Ssroomani)
4. Nakul actively tries to stop Yuddhi with his question about Garv. So am awarding him +2 same as was awarded Bhim for his effort yesterday. If -2 for betting P's pati then +2 for trying to save him.


Y

B

A

N

S

Final Grading Analysis - April 2, 2014

-1

-1

Arjuna Stakes himself

-1

-1

Bhim Stakes and looses himself

+2

B gives idea to Y to save himself & other patis

-2

+1

-1

0

0

Total Tally


*We are being generous to Bhim today, but if -2 is taking then +2 for attempted saving of Yuddhi & through him other patis.
Grading Analysis - April 1/2014
    Bheem intend to stake himself. -0.5. Arjun voices to offer himself -1. Sahadev instead offers himself -1. Yuddhi starts to stake Sahadev -0.5. Draupadi walking in. Yudi, Arjun, Bheem look at her +0.33 each. Dury orders Draupadi is forbidden.Yudi, Bheem and Arjun look angry +0.33 each. Draupadi walks in and pauses to look at N, Nakul turns to look at her with pain. +1 She then looks accusingly toward other 4. ABSY look at her +0.25 each There is a pause before Yuddhi looks, but am splitting point with ABS as its no different from their somewhat embarrassed look for the state of things. Draupadi says to stop the game. Yudi looks at her +1 Draupadi says break the promise. Yudi looks at her +1 Draupadi says Arjun, Bheem is dedicated towards you. A looks at her in agreement +1 Bheem looks proud & teary +1 Yuddhi looks at her reflectively before & after D asks what are you scared off +2 Bheem says Panchali is right, lifts gadha, and asks permission to free Nakula +2. Panchali says you will at most lose your empire, property, throne. Yudi looks at her +1 Draupadi goes to Nakul. Nakul looks at her +1 Draupadi says you lost my husband. Nakul is shamefaced/hurt +1 Yuddhi looks at her shamefaced +1 Shakuni eggs Yuddhi to play. Yuddhi is about to play ignoring Panchali's pleas -2 Draupadi stops him. Yudi stops and looks at her +1 Shakuni tells him to tell Panchali to leave..Yudi takes his time.. that Shakuni has to start to leave.. Should we award him a point?? +0.5 (awarded with reluctance) Yuddhi stops Duryodhan from leaving -2 (he turned Panchali's win into a loss!😔😔) Arjun and Bheem are taken aback at his decision to stop Dury +0.5 each Yuddhi turns looks at Panchali & orders "Panchali" to leave -4 (Gross insult to Samragi & wife...think its worse than not objecting to VH, but less than betting her...so 4 points!) ABSN are angry/upset/taken aback & Y is upset too. +0.20 each. Yuddhi turns away from her while she looks at him with painfilled eyes -1 She looks at Nak out of corner of eye. He hangs head in shame/helplessness +1 Arjuna & Sah also appear helpless +0.5 Yudi, Sahadev, Arjun, Bheem look at her leave +0.25 each.
  • Yuddhi stakes Sahadev another hubby of hers...after she stopped everything nullifying original staking -2
Tally Total - done by Diala (p.67): Y=-2.64, B=4.36, A=2.36, N=4.2, S=0.2
Grading Analysis - March 31/2013
  • Arjun moves to offer himself to stake. Since, he doesn't get to voice it. -0.5
  • Nakul verbally offers to stake himself -1
  • Bheem, Arjun, Sahadev stop him but it is not related to Panchali Yuddhi says to Nakul, that I can't stake you. But, decision not related to Panchali Nakul says it is only right that you stake me. He is just repeating his sacrifice...can't sacrifice twice unless original sacrifice gets nullified/rejected
  • Yuddhi is about to stake Nakul.. can't finish the sentence but still the intention was there. Doesn't even remember Panchali's right over Nakula😔 -0.5
  • Dasi comes with Draupadi's message.YAB listen and look at the flower. +0.33
  • Yuddhi stops dasi, looks at the flower & grasps the message with a smile +1. Yuddhi declares he can't put Nakul at stake +1.
  • B & A look happy, but unclear its related to P's message or Y's action
  • Yuddhi says we 5 brothers are connected via Panchali +1
  • Yuddhi says she has right over all of us and becuz of this game finished +1 Arjun, Bheem are happy +0.5 each (generous here that it is connected to her - objection welcome not to award)
  • Y,B,A,N.S start to leave +0.2 each. (lol... such agreeable hubbies...again generous..objections welcome) Shakuni stops them.
  • He reminds that Samragi came later. Yuddhi thinks. A & B look angry. A & B +0.5, Y appears puzzled/confused so no point.
  • Yuddhi finally turns back and stakes Nakul against Panchali's reminder of her adhikar over her husbands. As all agreed with flower and walked away, so Nakula volunteering got nullified. Shakuni even asked Nakula & Nakula didn't re-volunteer. He didn't object though. So, Yuddhi -2
Objection/Mercy Plea:
1. I will consider reducing Nakula's initial volunteering to 0.5 deduction if 5 posters think we should do so out of pitty. He is the Pati with the least points. So far Diala & Sabhayata think we should be kind.

Total Tally
Yuddhi: -2.5 + 4.53 = 2.03 , Arjuna = -0.5 + 1.53=1.03, B=1.53, N= -1 + 0.2 = 0.80, S= 0.2

Grading Analysis - March 28/14 (p.26):
+1 Yuddhi for looking at Panchali after approaching dice table before starting.

Objections:
1. Other possible eyelocks are unclear including one when Drona mentions adharma. Y appears to be looking at Arjuna who is to his right. D is to his right but further back. Camera goes Y then A then D. D is looking at Y & A not them toward her.

2. At the end unclear who is looking at whom amongst Panchali & Pandav.

Grading Analysis - March 27/2013 - Adopting Poojie's analysis
    Arjuna walks toward Draupadi...but, looks like its so he can look properly at Yuddhi's back. They essentially trade places. Nothing to do with Draupadi. Draupadi calls out Aarya then Yudi eye movement reveals he is listening in and Sahadev turns to looks at her +0.5 each. Arjun-Panchali eyelock +1 Yudi smilingly saying what could be the yojana in response to D +1 Yudi for smilingly saying lejaye toh lejaye hamara sab kuch. +1 Draupadi says the question is not of rajya. Yudi looks at her +1 Draupadi says she fears they will lose more than property. Bheem, Nakul and Sahadev are looking at her +0.33 Sahadev looks at her a second time after looking away +1. Yudi walks up to her and eyelock +1 Yudi for saying if we protect dharma, we will win back everything +1 Yudi for saying if not this kingdom, then we will build up a new kingdom. +1 Yudi for saying we can't refuse Taatshree's order +1 Yudi for not listening into Draupadi when she twice explained him. -2
  • Bheem, Arjun, Nakul, Sahadev look at Panchali as she leaves with Gandhari and Kunti for Kuldevi mandir +0.2 each.

Total Tally
Yudi = 7.5 - 2 = 5.5; Bheem = 0.53; Arjun = 1.2; Nakul = 0.53; Sahadev = 2.03

Objections: I checked Arjuna's walk - its wasn't purposefully toward D. I reviewed the Y's replies - they were directly responsive to her. I agree we should deduct 2 marks, however, as he listened but didn't hear her objections/fears which were beyond property & kingdom...but, rather about the very intangibles the six of them valued such as honour & dharma.

Grading Analysis - March 26/2014 - Mostly adopting Poojie's analysis
Kite flying sequence
    Not sure whether Sah looked at her direction or not right at the beginning.. šŸ˜•
  • Nakul I think looked at her after sahadev says about catching the dor. +1 Agree
Arjun-Subhadra Scene
    Arjun -1 for smiling when Subhadra says that can't u play for ur pregnant wife? Arjun -1 for saying tum meri santaan ko chausar ke sanskaar deh rahi hoon Arjun -1 for saying smiling and saying madh or madira ka nahin. Arjun -1 for smiling when Subhi saying u don't know anything about love. Arjun -1 for smiling and saying soh toh nahin jaogi tum? Arjun -1 for smiling when he sees that Subhadra is asleep. Arjun -1 for saying that she slept before knowing how to come out of the chakravyruh. Arjun -1 for smiling going to her. Arjun -1 for sorting out her feet. Arjun -2 for patting her forehead several times. Think this is at least two marks
  • No negative mark for Chakravyu explanation. A wasn't looking at S nor was the explanation remotely romantic. 🄱
Vidur brings the invitation
    Yudi +1 eyelock after Vidur enters. He waits for her to look at himā¤ļø Yudi +1 eyelock when Vidur says the function is specially honouring Draupadi.
  • Yudi +1 eyelock when Arjun becomes stern with Vidur.
Total Tally
Yudi = 3, Arjun = -11 😭, Nakul = 1
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago
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My inputs

Kite flying sequence

I am not sure whether Sahadev looked at her direction or not right at the beginning.. šŸ˜•
Nakul I think looked at her after sahadev says about catching the dor. +1

Arjun-Subhadra Scene

Arjun -1 for smiling when Subhadra says that can't u play for ur pregnant wife?
Arjun -1 for saying tum meri santaan ko chausar ke sanskaar deh rahi hoon
Arjun -1 for saying smiling and saying madh or madira ka nahin.
Arjun -1 for smiling when Subhi saying u don't know anything about love.
Arjun -1 for smiling and saying soh toh nahin jaogi tum?
Arjun -1 for smiling when he sees that Subhadra is asleep.
Arjun -1 for saying that she slept before knowing how to come out of the chakravyruh.
Arjun -1 for smiling going to her.
Arjun -1 for sorting out her feet.
Arjun -1 for patting her forehead.

I am not sure whether we should deduct a point for arjun explaining the chakravyuh.

Arjun fans would be might pissed today. šŸ˜†

Vidur brings the invitation

Yudi +1 eyelock after Vidur enters.
Yudi +1 eyelock when Vidur says the function is specially honouring Draupadi.
Yudi +1 eyelock when Arjun becomes stern with Vidur.

Total Tally

Yudi = 3
Arjun = -10 😭
Nakul = 1

Objections welcome...

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