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myviewprem

@myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: tvnamratha
but i hve one query...why didnt d tiger...didnt ate the deer????wats d logic behind diz??

Tiger treated deer like family

haven't you seen on discovery one lionness adopting a deer baby in africa may be same case

Why it treated only that deer like family? no idea only that tiger or God can say no logic.

But he killed all other deers/sheep etc given to him and ate it.

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Donjas

@Donjas

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: myviewprem

And you are right history can be interpretted many ways and it depends on reader. I think humayun, jehangir, dara sikoh, khusrau and akbar in his later years after 30s were better mughals compared to others. Others may think otherwise.

Thank you for you most polite response. And as we both agree, how we interpret history is most important. But, one thing I do know, whatever you or I may think, historians in general and public at large have a very poor opinion of Jahangir.

In fact, other than Akbar, none of the Mughals enjoys much interest in India. We know of Akbar, his 9 courtiers and numerous other people associated with him.

But nothing is known of Jahangir or his close associates. It is as if history has already chosen whom it wants to remember.

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myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

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In fact, other than Akbar, none of the Mughals enjoys much interest in India. We know of Akbar, his 9 courtiers and numerous other people associated with him.

But nothing is known of Jahangir or his close associates. It is as if history has already chosen whom it wants to remember.

Yup that is true Akbar was the greatest moghul and Jehangir most complex that is why maximum plays/movies etc on jehangir because till today all are confused about this person is he good or bad? was he really in love or not? was he cruel or not? did he love animals or not? did he rule or nur jahan? did he love khurram or not? did khurram love him or not? did nur jahan love him or not? why he behaved the way he did? was there anarkali or not? why he rebelled? no one knows so everyone makes their own stories. Actually he is missing in akbarnama from age 11 to 29 whyyy? All this curiosity is because of that reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can say Akbar was like Amitabh Bhachan and Jehangir(ohhh i am loss of words who can equal him in complexity Salman, Dharmendra etc none actually match his complexity but a Micahel Jackson may be though thats gross on Jehangir even his eccentricity cannot match MJs ) may be of Moghuls

But Sahh jahan is more famous around world because of taj mahal

What i do not understand is humayun tomb, akbar tomb, jehangir tomb, itmadullah tomb are also nice why people rarely go there and throng to taj? May be because of the white marbles they attract people more than red standstones may be(i have seen all except jehangir's)

Because its symbol of love many say- but i do not believe that. Because shah jahan married after mumtaz but jehangir did not and akbar also changed because of jodha to sdome extent so why not credit both of them also for love????? why only shah jahan monument famous for love???? Why only taj mahal promoted as symbol of love why not others tombs? Because they are not buried together????

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adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

A very interesting discussion.

I would like all to think of some issues - the translations that are most popular and the interpretations of Indian, Asian and Oriental history is mostly a Western perspective given by Western historians. Even those which are by Indians, Asians and Orientals have been tinged by a Western perspective - look at the way we view our cultures - its a highly Western influenced making us find excuses for our own cultures. This coloring of out outlook by the West makes us see Ashoka, Akbar, Jehangir, Shahjehan etc in the way the West has projected them - and the West has been unable to accept that there can be anyone liberal from the East.

If we really want to look at our history we will first need to remove the Western glasses from our eyes and unlearn the Western outlook and then with a clean and clear mind look at our history - perhaps then we may be able to interpret the historical narratives without the Western prejudices.

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: adianasr
A very interesting discussion.

I would like all to think of some issues - the translations that are most popular and the interpretations of Indian, Asian and Oriental history is mostly a Western perspective given by Western historians. Even those which are by Indians, Asians and Orientals have been tinged by a Western perspective - look at the way we view our cultures - its a highly Western influenced making us find excuses for our own cultures. This coloring of out outlook by the West makes us see Ashoka, Akbar, Jehangir, Shahjehan etc in the way the West has projected them - and the West has been unable to accept that there can be anyone liberal from the East.

If we really want to look at our history we will first need to remove the Western glasses from our eyes and unlearn the Western outlook and then with a clean and clear mind look at our history - perhaps then we may be able to interpret the historical narratives without the Western prejudices.

Can't put it better..!
Concise and to the point..!!..

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oiiinano

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Tiger treated deer like family 

haven't you seen on discovery one lionness adopting a deer baby in africa may be same case

Why it treated only that deer like family? no idea only thattiger or God can say no logic. 

But he killed all other deers/sheep etc given to him and ate it.

hahaha...tnx for clearing ma doubt dr...:)...n sry for d silly question...becoz i desperately wanted to knw dat