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So what was all that about? Roxanne is too curious!
This is the first time Alexander explicitly talks about his love for his mother, but in comparison to his love for his wife...??? 😡

Kya sach mein biwi ne maa ko maat de di iss baar? I find that hard to believe. 😲


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Biwi ne maat de di maa ko.. 😡😡
Alexander first asks her why she asked a question whose answer he didn't reveal even to his mother and whether she thinks he loves her more than his mother and later he discloses to her the real reason of sending Barsine to PR of which Olympias is unaware! It's all clear!

Originally posted by: inlieu

So what was all that about? Roxanne is too curious!

This is the first time Alexander explicitly talks about his love for his mother, but in comparison to his love for his wife...??? 😡

Kya sach mein biwi ne maa ko maat de di iss baar? I find that hard to believe. 😲


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These conclusions seem to me to be premature. Alexander tells Roxanne about Sumer, but that is something Olympias already knows, as she is there when Alexander and Ambhiraj meet Sumer.

He fobs off Olympias when she asks him about Barsine, saying that he wanted to surprise her.

It is, as yet, not shown explicitly anywhere that Alexander tells Roxanne about the reason for his sending Barsine to Paurav Rashtra. He is merely telling her that he doesn't forget an insult, and the one who insults him will have to pay for it.

While he is whispering this in her ear, she looks as though caterpillars were crawling all over her. If Alexander could have seen her face then, it might have cured him of his aashiqui.

And Alexander doesn't have to tell anyone, least of all Roxanne, that he loves his mother. That is one of those truths ( with apologies to Thomas Jefferson) that are self evident!

Right now, even after that pedestrian scene of Alexander blackmailing Barsine, we are no nearer finding out the WHY of Barsine's trip to Paurav Rashtra. I think that Roxanne is in the same position as we are.

Meanwhile, we have Barsine, still, to the despair of luckysnow😉, in the same Ovaltine colour dress, the fabric of which must be really sturdy, to have survived a dunking in perfect condition!😆 We really must organise a collect to get the poor girl at least one more outfit😉.

She proceeds, in the classic TV serial tradition, to look as guilty as possible when Chanakya is looking at her , or when she is looking sideways at Chanakya for no rational reason that one could think of😡.

I don't know about Alexander's famed sharp judgement, but here both the instruments he has chosen seem distinctly wobbly, the one because he is a fool, and the other because her heart is not in the job she has to do.

Then Sumer goggles at Anusuya is a manner that screams of a locha, but of course poor dear Anu spots nothing.

The scorpion must be a Dasyu. Just as the Dasyus can stay for a long time underwater, so too the Dasyu scorpion can stay buried in the ash without getting suffocated.😆

Kanishka's blue and gold dhoti looks remarkably fresh, seeing how long he has been in jail, as estimated from his beard. He is clearly meant to be the fall guy. But surely that won't work if he is still asleep in his open cell?

Finally, the Dasyu scorpion seems to be a champ,😉 for its poison not only acts instantly, but it makes Porus look as if he has been dunked in Robin Blue.😉

Shyamala Aunty

PS: I thoroughly enjoyed the nok jhok between Puru and Laachi, especially when she landed him one with a sharp elbow!😆 Now she is a girl after my own heart!

Originally posted by: Vaishnavi_

Biwi ne maat de di maa ko.. 😡😡

Alexander first asks her why she asked a question whose answer he didn't reveal even to his mother and whether she thinks he loves her more than his mother and later he discloses to her the real reason of sending Barsine to PR of which Olympias is unaware! It's all clear!

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So you should. Find it hard to believe, I mean. Preferably, you should not believe it at all.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

So what was all that about? Roxanne is too curious!

This is the first time Alexander explicitly talks about his love for his mother, but in comparison to his love for his wife...??? 😡

Kya sach mein biwi ne maa ko maat de di iss baar? I find that hard to believe. 😲


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Hi Aunty,

I take heart from what you wrote. It just doesn't go with his character because if there's one consistent thread in Alexander's track throughout this show, it's his love for his mother and his faith in her above all else.

If, however, for some reason they end up showing that indeed biwi ne maa ko maat de di, then I think that would really be the tipping point for me and would make it hard for me to keep watching this show. I hope that Rubicon will not be crossed.

When I watched the episode, the way Alexander said:

Iss baat ka jawaab to maine apni maa ko bhi nahin diya, Roxanne. To tumhe aisa kyun laga ke tumhe is baat ka jawaab milega?
Tumhe kya lagta hai, ke main apni maa se zyaada mohabbat tumse karta hoon?

all that sounded quite sarcastic, as if to show her that she need not give herself excessive importance in his life, but I wasn't sure if I'd misread the scene. As I said before, I think he's figured out a way to slot her neatly into his life and carry one with his other (more interesting) plans.

Based on what we've seen of him so far, his mother would still be above all else. I think he's making light of the Barsine situation with Olympias because he doesn't want her to be worried about his plan, seeing as he's sent Barsine into enemy territory and must be up to some shrewd scheme. Of late, his mother's fear has been something he's kept a close eye on and has tried to address time and again.

As for Barsine looking guilty in front of Chanakya, maybe this is part of Alexander's plan. He knows exactly how Chanakya and Barsine will both react - his emphasis on the ittefaaq aspect makes me think he is counting on Chanakya being suspicious of her and Barsine being skittish or nervous. The more she behaves this way, the more Chanakya will focus on her, and then Alexander's real plan will be executed elsewhere. I was initially surprised at his choice of weapon, poison, but then remembered Vishuddhi. Is Alexander referring to the Farsi or the PR insult?

I also wonder if what he says to Roxanne about not forgetting insults was a veiled threat to her of sorts. The whole dancing scene in the other episode was about showing her that, actually, she couldn't just get away with anything every single time, including her insolent behavior and her lack of respect for him as her Shah and husband.

In today's episode, the way he holds her is not gentle or romantic at all and he doesn't seem to be in the mood for games with her. It reminded me of when he got irritated with her in the Bactrian palace scene, grabbed her wrist, and said he wasn't interested to know about her mood, rather asked whether she'd marry him. Roxanne is suddenly sounding all too nice and trying to emotionally blackmail him, and when that fails, tries to walk off as a mock nakhra. He does not fall for it and I love that he stops her in her tracks.

What right does she have to ask him such things or to make (insincere) wifely demands at this point and expect them to be fulfilled? What has she done specifically to make hm feel special. She doesn't even love him or give his love the due respect and that is very clear to him. Alexander's wife and queen would have understood his mother's importance in his life and would never try to compare or compete with his affections on that front, or even allude to it, especially when he knows she doesn't have any wifely feelings for him at all. 😡 She's trying to cash in on him saying that Kabhi kabhi biwi bhi kamaal ki Shah hoti hai, but he did say kabhi kabhi. 😉 Alexander is smart enough to pick up on what she is trying to do, and has figured out how to handle her, especially since he has found her weak point: insecurity about her position.

Caterpillars! 😆 Gosh, it's funny you should say that! When I watched that scene it seemed to portray her feeling as if her skin were crawling. I don't think he needs to see the mirror, though. He probably senses that anyway and very deliberately moves her hair out of the way. 😆

It's Roxanne's problem now. Alexander has done his best and he doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Now the onus is on Roxanne to prove that she is worthy of his love and attention. Otherwise, she can maintain her distance both physically and verbally and just leave him alone to do what he does best, instead of playing twenty questions. He should stop running trying to win her over - he's done more than enough so far.

One more thing. He talks about being insulted without referring to a specific incident and maybe even deliberately lets Barsine (and us) think that he has sent her to PR to avenge the insult during Porus' crowning ceremony. But could he have been referring to Roxanne insulting him in the past and now him devising a way to make her pay for it? 😕

Glad to see a little bit of Hephaestion again, even if it's only in a flashback and him pretending to kill Dryptis and Stateira to scare Barsine. 😆 I really wish we'd get more scenes between Alexander and him, where they actually have a meaningful conversation. CVs, are you listening?


Right now, Roxanne is 100% focused on Barsine and she is dying of curiosity and discomfort at not knowing what Alexander is up to. I like watching her squirm. 😆 I also love watching Alexander exert his supreme authority all-round, even with his mother and wife, saying that he knows what he's doing. After all, he is the Emperor, and has the final say in all matters. 😃

Phew, this post became much longer than I had intended! I guess I am a bit possessive and extra sensitive when it comes to the beautiful Alexander-Olympias relationship on this show. Any sign of that being tampered with and I feel like I'd probably blow a fuse. 😉


Originally posted by: sashashyam

So you should. Find it hard to believe, I mean. Preferably, you should not believe it at all.

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

Hi Aunty,

I take heart from what you wrote. It just doesn't go with his character because if there's one consistent thread in Alexander's track throughout this show, it's his love for his mother and his faith in her above all else.

If, however, for some reason they end up showing that indeed biwi ne maa ko maat de di, then I think that would really be the tipping point for me and would make it hard for me to keep watching this show. I hope that Rubicon will not be crossed.

When I watched the episode, the way Alexander said:

Iss baat ka jawaab to maine apni maa ko bhi nahin diya, Roxanne. To tumhe aisa kyun laga ke tumhe is baat ka jawaab milega?
Tumhe kya lagta hai, ke main apni maa se zyaada mohabbat tumse karta hoon?

all that sounded quite sarcastic, as if to show her that she need not give herself excessive importance in his life, but I wasn't sure if I'd misread the scene. As I said before, I think he's figured out a way to slot her neatly into his life and carry one with his other (more interesting) plans.

Based on what we've seen of him so far, his mother would still be above all else. I think he's making light of the Barsine situation with Olympias because he doesn't want her to be worried about his plan, seeing as he's sent Barsine into enemy territory and must be up to some shrewd scheme. Of late, his mother's fear has been something he's kept a close eye on and has tried to address time and again.

s for Barsine looking guilty in front of Chanakya, maybe this is part of Alexander's plan. He knows exactly how Chanakya and Barsine will both react - his emphasis on the ittefaaq aspect makes me think he is counting on Chanakya being suspicious of her and Barsine being skittish or nervous. The more she behaves this way, the more Chanakya will focus on her, and then Alexander's real plan will be executed elsewhere. I was initially surprised at his choice of weapon, poison, but then remembered Vishuddhi. Is Alexander referring to the Farsi or the PR insult?

I also wonder if what he says to Roxanne about not forgetting insults was a veiled threat to her of sorts. The whole dancing scene in the other episode was about showing her that, actually, she couldn't just get away with anything every single time, including her insolent behavior and her lack of respect for him as her Shah and husband.

In today's episode, the way he holds her is not gentle or romantic at all and he doesn't seem to be in the mood for games with her. It reminded me of when he got irritated with her in the Bactrian palace scene, grabbed her wrist, and said he wasn't interested to know about her mood, rather asked whether she'd marry him. Roxanne is suddenly sounding all too nice and trying to emotionally blackmail him, and when that fails, tries to walk off as a mock nakhra. He does not fall for it and I love that he stops her in her tracks.

What right does she have to ask him such things or to make (insincere) wifely demands at this point and expect them to be fulfilled? What has she done specifically to make hm feel special. She doesn't even love him or give his love the due respect and that is very clear to him. Alexander's wife and queen would have understood his mother's importance in his life and would never try to compare or compete with his affections on that front, or even allude to it, especially when he knows she doesn't have any wifely feelings for him at all. 😡 She's trying to cash in on him saying that Kabhi kabhi biwi bhi kamaal ki Shah hoti hai, but he did say kabhi kabhi. 😉 Alexander is smart enough to pick up on what she is trying to do, and has figured out how to handle her, especially since he has found her weak point: insecurity about her position.

Caterpillars! 😆 Gosh, it's funny you should say that! When I watched that scene it seemed to portray her feeling as if her skin were crawling. I don't think he needs to see the mirror, though. He probably senses that anyway and very deliberately moves her hair out of the way. 😆

It's Roxanne's problem now. Alexander has done his best and now the onus is on Roxanne to prove that she is worthy of his love and attention. Otherwise, she can maintain her distance both physically and verbally and just leave him alone to do what he does best, instead of playing twenty questions. He should stop running trying to win her over - he's done more than enough so far.

One more thing. He talks about being insulted without referring to a specific incident and maybe even deliberately lets Barsine (and us) think that he has sent her to PR to avenge the insult during Porus' crowning ceremony. But could he have been referring to Roxanne insulting him in the past and now him devising a way to make her pay for it? 😕

Glad to see a little bit of Hephaestion again, even if it's only in a flashback and him pretending to kill Dryptis and Stateira to scare Barsine. 😆 I really wish we'd get more scenes between Alexander and him, where they actually have a meaningful conversation. CVs, are you listening?


Right now, Roxanne is 100% focused on Barsine and she is dying of curiosity and discomfort at not knowing what Alexander is up to. I like watching her squirm. 😆 I also love watching Alexander exert his supreme authority all-round, even with his mother and wife, saying that he knows what he's doing. After all, he is the Emperor, and has the final say in all matters. 😃

Phew, this post became much longer than I had intended! I guess I am a bit possessive and extra sensitive when it comes to the beautiful Alexander-Olympias relationship on this show. Any sign of that being tampered with and I feel like I'd probably blow a fuse. 😉



Biwi will tie Rakhi to porus...maa kya karegi batao😆
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Originally posted by: inlieu

Hi Aunty,

I take heart from what you wrote. It just doesn't go with his character because if there's one consistent thread in Alexander's track throughout this show, it's his love for his mother and his faith in her above all else.

If, however, for some reason they end up showing that indeed biwi ne maa ko maat de di, then I think that would really be the tipping point for me and would make it hard for me to keep watching this show. I hope that Rubicon will not be crossed.

When I watched the episode, the way Alexander said:

Iss baat ka jawaab to maine apni maa ko bhi nahin diya, Roxanne. To tumhe aisa kyun laga ke tumhe is baat ka jawaab milega?
Tumhe kya lagta hai, ke main apni maa se zyaada mohabbat tumse karta hoon?

all that sounded quite sarcastic, as if to show her that she need not give herself excessive importance in his life, but I wasn't sure if I'd misread the scene. As I said before, I think he's figured out a way to slot her neatly into his life and carry one with his other (more interesting) plans.

Based on what we've seen of him so far, his mother would still be above all else. I think he's making light of the Barsine situation with Olympias because he doesn't want her to be worried about his plan, seeing as he's sent Barsine into enemy territory and must be up to some shrewd scheme. Of late, his mother's fear has been something he's kept a close eye on and has tried to address time and again.

s for Barsine looking guilty in front of Chanakya, maybe this is part of Alexander's plan. He knows exactly how Chanakya and Barsine will both react - his emphasis on the ittefaaq aspect makes me think he is counting on Chanakya being suspicious of her and Barsine being skittish or nervous. The more she behaves this way, the more Chanakya will focus on her, and then Alexander's real plan will be executed elsewhere. I was initially surprised at his choice of weapon, poison, but then remembered Vishuddhi. Is Alexander referring to the Farsi or the PR insult?

I also wonder if what he says to Roxanne about not forgetting insults was a veiled threat to her of sorts. The whole dancing scene in the other episode was about showing her that, actually, she couldn't just get away with anything every single time, including her insolent behavior and her lack of respect for him as her Shah and husband.

In today's episode, the way he holds her is not gentle or romantic at all and he doesn't seem to be in the mood for games with her. It reminded me of when he got irritated with her in the Bactrian palace scene, grabbed her wrist, and said he wasn't interested to know about her mood, rather asked whether she'd marry him. Roxanne is suddenly sounding all too nice and trying to emotionally blackmail him, and when that fails, tries to walk off as a mock nakhra. He does not fall for it and I love that he stops her in her tracks.

What right does she have to ask him such things or to make (insincere) wifely demands at this point and expect them to be fulfilled? What has she done specifically to make hm feel special. She doesn't even love him or give his love the due respect and that is very clear to him. Alexander's wife and queen would have understood his mother's importance in his life and would never try to compare or compete with his affections on that front, or even allude to it, especially when he knows she doesn't have any wifely feelings for him at all. 😡 She's trying to cash in on him saying that Kabhi kabhi biwi bhi kamaal ki Shah hoti hai, but he did say kabhi kabhi. 😉 Alexander is smart enough to pick up on what she is trying to do, and has figured out how to handle her, especially since he has found her weak point: insecurity about her position.

Caterpillars! 😆 Gosh, it's funny you should say that! When I watched that scene it seemed to portray her feeling as if her skin were crawling. I don't think he needs to see the mirror, though. He probably senses that anyway and very deliberately moves her hair out of the way. 😆

It's Roxanne's problem now. Alexander has done his best and now the onus is on Roxanne to prove that she is worthy of his love and attention. Otherwise, she can maintain her distance both physically and verbally and just leave him alone to do what he does best, instead of playing twenty questions. He should stop running trying to win her over - he's done more than enough so far.

One more thing. He talks about being insulted without referring to a specific incident and maybe even deliberately lets Barsine (and us) think that he has sent her to PR to avenge the insult during Porus' crowning ceremony. But could he have been referring to Roxanne insulting him in the past and now him devising a way to make her pay for it? 😕

Glad to see a little bit of Hephaestion again, even if it's only in a flashback and him pretending to kill Dryptis and Stateira to scare Barsine. 😆 I really wish we'd get more scenes between Alexander and him, where they actually have a meaningful conversation. CVs, are you listening?


Right now, Roxanne is 100% focused on Barsine and she is dying of curiosity and discomfort at not knowing what Alexander is up to. I like watching her squirm. 😆 I also love watching Alexander exert his supreme authority all-round, even with his mother and wife, saying that he knows what he's doing. After all, he is the Emperor, and has the final say in all matters. 😃

Phew, this post became much longer than I had intended! I guess I am a bit possessive and extra sensitive when it comes to the beautiful Alexander-Olympias relationship on this show. Any sign of that being tampered with and I feel like I'd probably blow a fuse. 😉



Asli Alexander was too afraid of olympias to say such. 10000 miles door baitha bhi usse kya khaya kya piya batata tha😆 khair dont forget ke yeh abhi taxshila kaand hi hai...abhi 90 episodes Hain...to chill and enjoy creative mind of CVS... obviously at some point Barsine and Roxana will come face to face again...I just hope and pray ke KANISHQ fir se raja na ban Jaye...kyunke pr sena Ka koi deen imaan hai Nahin...

Abhi ambi Raj bhi jeewat hai usse bhi marna hain..Cleitus bhi marna hai...aur porus ke shadi bhi honi hai (shayad) maharani luchi se...Aram se 90 episode ho jayeinge...aur Chankya bhi badla to lega Alex see Puru ko behosh karne Ka...aur 26 august to Raksha Bandhan bhi hai
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Now this is what I call a nice, relaxed attitude towards this show of ours. Admirable!👏

Though I have grave doubts as to whether Cleitus is going to oblige you and get killed for your pleasure!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: luckySnow

Asli Alexander was too afraid of olympias to say such. 10000 miles door baitha bhi usse kya khaya kya piya batata tha😆 khair dont forget ke yeh abhi taxshila kaand hi hai...abhi 90 episodes Hain...to chill and enjoy creative mind of CVS... obviously at some point Barsine and Roxana will come face to face again...I just hope and pray ke KANISHQ fir se raja na ban Jaye...kyunke pr sena Ka koi deen imaan hai Nahin...

Abhi ambi Raj bhi jeewat hai usse bhi marna hain..Cleitus bhi marna hai...aur porus ke shadi bhi honi hai (shayad) maharani luchi se...Aram se 90 episode ho jayeinge...aur Chankya bhi badla to lega Alex see Puru ko behosh karne Ka...aur 26 august to Raksha Bandhan bhi hai


Originally posted by: inlieu

Hi Aunty,

I take heart from what you wrote. It just doesn't go with his character because if there's one consistent thread in Alexander's track throughout this show, it's his love for his mother and his faith in her above all else.

If, however, for some reason they end up showing that indeed biwi ne maa ko maat de di, then I think that would really be the tipping point for me and would make it hard for me to keep watching this show. I hope that Rubicon will not be crossed.

When I watched the episode, the way Alexander said:

Iss baat ka jawaab to maine apni maa ko bhi nahin diya, Roxanne. To tumhe aisa kyun laga ke tumhe is baat ka jawaab milega?
Tumhe kya lagta hai, ke main apni maa se zyaada mohabbat tumse karta hoon?

all that sounded quite sarcastic, as if to show her that she need not give herself excessive importance in his life, but I wasn't sure if I'd misread the scene. As I said before, I think he's figured out a way to slot her neatly into his life and carry one with his other (more interesting) plans.

Based on what we've seen of him so far, his mother would still be above all else. I think he's making light of the Barsine situation with Olympias because he doesn't want her to be worried about his plan, seeing as he's sent Barsine into enemy territory and must be up to some shrewd scheme. Of late, his mother's fear has been something he's kept a close eye on and has tried to address time and again.

s for Barsine looking guilty in front of Chanakya, maybe this is part of Alexander's plan. He knows exactly how Chanakya and Barsine will both react - his emphasis on the ittefaaq aspect makes me think he is counting on Chanakya being suspicious of her and Barsine being skittish or nervous. The more she behaves this way, the more Chanakya will focus on her, and then Alexander's real plan will be executed elsewhere. I was initially surprised at his choice of weapon, poison, but then remembered Vishuddhi. Is Alexander referring to the Farsi or the PR insult?

I also wonder if what he says to Roxanne about not forgetting insults was a veiled threat to her of sorts. The whole dancing scene in the other episode was about showing her that, actually, she couldn't just get away with anything every single time, including her insolent behavior and her lack of respect for him as her Shah and husband.

In today's episode, the way he holds her is not gentle or romantic at all and he doesn't seem to be in the mood for games with her. It reminded me of when he got irritated with her in the Bactrian palace scene, grabbed her wrist, and said he wasn't interested to know about her mood, rather asked whether she'd marry him. Roxanne is suddenly sounding all too nice and trying to emotionally blackmail him, and when that fails, tries to walk off as a mock nakhra. He does not fall for it and I love that he stops her in her tracks.

What right does she have to ask him such things or to make (insincere) wifely demands at this point and expect them to be fulfilled? What has she done specifically to make hm feel special. She doesn't even love him or give his love the due respect and that is very clear to him. Alexander's wife and queen would have understood his mother's importance in his life and would never try to compare or compete with his affections on that front, or even allude to it, especially when he knows she doesn't have any wifely feelings for him at all. 😡 She's trying to cash in on him saying that Kabhi kabhi biwi bhi kamaal ki Shah hoti hai, but he did say kabhi kabhi. 😉 Alexander is smart enough to pick up on what she is trying to do, and has figured out how to handle her, especially since he has found her weak point: insecurity about her position.

Caterpillars! 😆 Gosh, it's funny you should say that! When I watched that scene it seemed to portray her feeling as if her skin were crawling. I don't think he needs to see the mirror, though. He probably senses that anyway and very deliberately moves her hair out of the way. 😆

It's Roxanne's problem now. Alexander has done his best and now the onus is on Roxanne to prove that she is worthy of his love and attention. Otherwise, she can maintain her distance both physically and verbally and just leave him alone to do what he does best, instead of playing twenty questions. He should stop running trying to win her over - he's done more than enough so far.

One more thing. He talks about being insulted without referring to a specific incident and maybe even deliberately lets Barsine (and us) think that he has sent her to PR to avenge the insult during Porus' crowning ceremony. But could he have been referring to Roxanne insulting him in the past and now him devising a way to make her pay for it? 😕

Glad to see a little bit of Hephaestion again, even if it's only in a flashback and him pretending to kill Dryptis and Stateira to scare Barsine. 😆 I really wish we'd get more scenes between Alexander and him, where they actually have a meaningful conversation. CVs, are you listening?


Right now, Roxanne is 100% focused on Barsine and she is dying of curiosity and discomfort at not knowing what Alexander is up to. I like watching her squirm. 😆 I also love watching Alexander exert his supreme authority all-round, even with his mother and wife, saying that he knows what he's doing. After all, he is the Emperor, and has the final say in all matters. 😃

Phew, this post became much longer than I had intended! I guess I am a bit possessive and extra sensitive when it comes to the beautiful Alexander-Olympias relationship on this show. Any sign of that being tampered with and I feel like I'd probably blow a fuse. 😉




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It is not too long, this post of yours, and is in fact characteristically coherent and lucid. Only it focusses on only one subject, Alexander and Roxanne, and is not in any way, bar the reference to the caterpillar, a response to or a comment on my post.

Why, you have not even noticed the best part of my post, the Dasyu scorpion! If I say so myself, that was really funny. In any case, no one here appreciates my jokes.

I wish I could somehow go back to my old group, not just in the Jodha Akbar forum but even in that for Chandra Nandini. With them, one felt it was worthwhile to write at length, for they invariably noticed and enjoyed most of my favourite parts, and between them, covered all of them. Here, apart from the fact that the whole forum is probably no more than 30 strong, it is like talking to a wall.

Anyway, coming back to your obsession, let me put down my responses pointwise in blue, below the relevant paras. This apart, my advice to you, for whatever it is worth, would be to chill, back off from this Far from Great Romance, and watch other parts of the episodes as well. Puru and Laachi were very pleasant last night.

Olympias can look after herself, she does not need you to protect her relationship with her son.😉 If you carry on like this, you will only end up with ulcers,

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: inlieu

Hi Aunty,

I take heart from what you wrote. It just doesn't go with his character because if there's one consistent thread in Alexander's track throughout this show, it's his love for his mother and his faith in her above all else.

If, however, for some reason they end up showing that indeed biwi ne maa ko maat de di, then I think that would really be the tipping point for me and would make it hard for me to keep watching this show. I hope that Rubicon will not be crossed.

If it is, it is. How can one help it?

When I watched the episode, the way Alexander said:

Iss baat ka jawaab to maine apni maa ko bhi nahin diya, Roxanne. To tumhe aisa kyun laga ke tumhe is baat ka jawaab milega?
Tumhe kya lagta hai, ke main apni maa se zyaada mohabbat tumse karta hoon?

all that sounded quite sarcastic, as if to show her that she need not give herself excessive importance in his life, but I wasn't sure if I'd misread the scene. As I said before, I think he's figured out a way to slot her neatly into his life and carry one with his other (more interesting) plans.

I agree with the first reading, that he was being saracastic, as of now. But who knows what the morrow will bring?

Based on what we've seen of him so far, his mother would still be above all else. I think he's making light of the Barsine situation with Olympias because he doesn't want her to be worried about his plan, seeing as he's sent Barsine into enemy territory and must be up to some shrewd scheme. Of late, his mother's fear has been something he's kept a close eye on and has tried to address time and again.

Why should she be worried about it in any case? I think he wants to present her with a striking success, as he says in the first place.

As for Barsine looking guilty in front of Chanakya, maybe this is part of Alexander's plan. He knows exactly how Chanakya and Barsine will both react - his emphasis on the ittefaaq aspect makes me think he is counting on Chanakya being suspicious of her and Barsine being skittish or nervous. The more she behaves this way, the more Chanakya will focus on her, and then Alexander's real plan will be executed elsewhere. I was initially surprised at his choice of weapon, poison, but then remembered Vishuddhi. Is Alexander referring to the Farsi or the PR insult?

One can surely hope that @bold is correct. But then there would have to Assassin No.2, as suspected by LuckySnow. Like who? Kadika, who looks these days more and more like a toothpaste ad? I cannot understand a woman in her position grinning nonstop as she does.

I also wonder if what he says to Roxanne about not forgetting insults was a veiled threat to her of sorts. The whole dancing scene in the other episode was about showing her that, actually, she couldn't just get away with anything every single time, including her insolent behavior and her lack of respect for him as her Shah and husband.

I don't know. But the hints he throws out are very far from clear. A tough husband would have stopped her from walking away when he asked her to dance. Instead he goes thru all these roundabout methods to bring her round. Cleitus must be laughing his head off in private, and Hephaestion must be sad at what his friend has come to.

In today's episode, the way he holds her is not gentle or romantic at all and he doesn't seem to be in the mood for games with her. It reminded me of when he got irritated with her in the Bactrian palace scene, grabbed her wrist, and said he wasn't interested to know about her mood, rather asked whether she'd marry him. Roxanne is suddenly sounding all too nice and trying to emotionally blackmail him, and when that fails, tries to walk off as a mock nakhra. He does not fall for it and I love that he stops her in her tracks.

I agree.

What right does she have to ask him such things or to make (insincere) wifely demands at this point and expect them to be fulfilled? What has she done specifically to make hm feel special. She doesn't even love him or give his love the due respect and that is very clear to him. Alexander's wife and queen would have understood his mother's importance in his life and would never try to compare or compete with his affections on that front, or even allude to it, especially when he knows she doesn't have any wifely feelings for him at all. 😡 She's trying to cash in on him saying that Kabhi kabhi biwi bhi kamaal ki Shah hoti hai, but he did say kabhi kabhi. 😉 Alexander is smart enough to pick up on what she is trying to do, and has figured out how to handle her, especially since he has found her weak point: insecurity about her position.

She does it because he lets her. If he had cut her off after the first question, she would have been snubbed and silenced. I am not at all sure how smart he is. His falling for her blindly is proof of his folly, and all else follows.

Caterpillars! 😆 Gosh, it's funny you should say that! When I watched that scene it seemed to portray her feeling as if her skin were crawling. I don't think he needs to see the mirror, though. He probably senses that anyway and very deliberately moves her hair out of the way. 😆

It's Roxanne's problem now. Alexander has done his best and he doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Now the onus is on Roxanne to prove that she is worthy of his love and attention. Otherwise, she can maintain her distance both physically and verbally and just leave him alone to do what he does best, instead of playing twenty questions. He should stop running trying to win her over - he's done more than enough so far.

Fond hopes!

One more thing. He talks about being insulted without referring to a specific incident and maybe even deliberately lets Barsine (and us) think that he has sent her to PR to avenge the insult during Porus' crowning ceremony. But could he have been referring to Roxanne insulting him in the past and now him devising a way to make her pay for it? 😕

No, I think he is referring only to what happened to him in the Paurav Rashtra court. He has never mentioned the Faras fiasco to Roxanne as a source of humiliation for him.

Glad to see a little bit of Hephaestion again, even if it's only in a flashback and him pretending to kill Dryptis and Stateira to scare Barsine. 😆 I really wish we'd get more scenes between Alexander and him, where they actually have a meaningful conversation. CVs, are you listening?

I doubt very much if there is going to be anything more shown between Alexander and Hephaestion, who has been reduced to an extra.😡

Right now, Roxanne is 100% focused on Barsine and she is dying of curiosity and discomfort at not knowing what Alexander is up to. I like watching her squirm. 😆 I also love watching Alexander exert his supreme authority all-round, even with his mother and wife, saying that he knows what he's doing. After all, he is the Emperor, and has the final say in all matters. 😃

Phew, this post became much longer than I had intended! I guess I am a bit possessive and extra sensitive when it comes to the beautiful Alexander-Olympias relationship on this show. Any sign of that being tampered with and I feel like I'd probably blow a fuse. 😉

As I said at the beginning, this is not the be all and end all of this show. Relax!


Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Only a fool will show Roxana above Olympias ... Here also CVS only teasing , no way Roxana can take the first place we all know even if CVS tries to build a love hate Indian style relationship...even in history where Alexander was mad in love with Roxana he called his mother the most beautiful...
Hell she can't even take second spot also of hephestion so no way

Only thing I want to see is cat fight between Roxana and Barsine...tearing each other apart...khoonkhar fight...then we might get new clothes for barsine...As per chank 10 Saal ho Gaye Alex ko Macedonia chode hue...us anusaar to Barsine 8 9 Saal we uske Saath Hain...matlab same clothes
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