Please give us Alexander and Roxanne on horseback scene

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inlieu

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

😲 Are you reading my mind? I was just about to write here that you seem to have adopted him too and are now the latest in a line of doting mothers. 😆

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sashashyam

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Posted: 7 years ago

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You know, my dear, there must have been something about the real Alexander which made women of his mother's age feel as if he were their son too. For all his tough, world conqueror image, there is still a little boy somewhere inside who would revel in being looked after and cossetted.

I wrote about this inner little boy seeking praise and acceptance when I was describing Alexander's reaction to the applause after he unties the Gordian knot. And more recently, while describing his attitude towards this stuffy trio of Barsine & Co., I wrote that had Sisygambis been there, she would, as she is said to have done, cooked him delicacies with her own hands and fed him, and he would have revelled in it, and purred like a sleek, contented lion cub with its mamma.

It is a great pity that we had no such scenes of Alexander with his mothers other than Olympias, for the one with Ada was prefunctory. Rohit would have aced them.

No, I did not read your mind, but very often we are of the same mind, and this time it was simultaneous!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu
😲 Are you reading my mind? I was just about to write here that you seem to have adopted him too and are now the latest in a line of doting mothers. 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

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486792

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Posted: 7 years ago

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@inlieu,Now this is something which I would love to seeAlex and Roxy on the same horse or both of them riding different horses but by each other's side,anything will do❤️

P.S.I am sorry for running away after posting a Res on both your postsActually I am on a vacation in the countryside😆This is why I am not getting the chance to come on IF.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 7 years ago

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And what about mine? Not even a reserved sign!😭

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=LawlessLawyer]@inlieu,Now this is something which I would love to seeAlex and Roxy on the same horse or both of them riding different horses but by each other's side,anything will do❤️

P.S.I am sorry for running away after posting a Res on both your postsActually I am on a vacation in the countryside😆This is why I am not getting the chance to come on IF.

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486792

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: sashashyam
And what about mine? Not even a reserved sign!😭

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=LawlessLawyer]@inlieu,Now this is something which I would love to seeAlex and Roxy on the same horse or both of them riding different horses but by each other's side,anything will do❤️

P.S.I am sorry for running away after posting a Res on both your postsActually I am on a vacation in the countryside😆This is why I am not getting the chance to come on IF.

Aunty!!!!! Check your post 😉😳

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tahera vejlani

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: sashashyam
Not Bucephalus! He will go on strike if he is asked to carry females.So the CVs will have get a new mount for the pair of them.😉 Which will probably cripple the budget.

Why don't you ask for a new dress for Roxanne instead? If not, judging from Barsine's wardrobe, she will be in this purple creation for the rest of the show.😉

This apart, I can see what sort of saccharine stuff I can expect from you youngsters. I must make sure I don't get diabetes!😆

Shyamala Aunty

PS: My post is up. And not so short at that.😉

Lol!! 😆 At this point it seems the only persons who can afford a change of clothes in the serial is Alexander and his Macedonian gang! Even with all the Paurav Rashtra's wealth, the PR gang also seem to be stuck wearing the same change of clothes 😛. I don't even want to get started on Barsine and her gown...she has been wearing the same thing for the past 5 months ever since she landed in India 😛

Edited by taherav - 7 years ago

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tahera vejlani

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree with you on this point too. Quite disappointed with their choice of actress to play Roxanne...I have read that she was an Orient and Alexander was completely besotted with her when he laid eyes on her the first time...the TV version Roxanne does not seem to fit the description...I had hoped that they would cast someone with a bit of Orient features or someone really stunning since Rohit really deserves such a lady to be cast opposite him...after all he has done an amazing job bringing Alexander to life!

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sashashyam

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Oh, very well! You are forgiven!

Shyamala Aunty

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Aunty!!!!! Check your post 😉😳

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sashashyam

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My dear Taherav,

I am glad to have someone who agrees with me on this! The rest seem to be more than satisifed with her. But one cannot blame them either, for they are so glad to get any Roxanne at all that they don't feel like complaining about the goods delivered!😉

Shyamala Aunty

I agree with you on this point too. Quite disappointed with their choice of actress to play Roxanne...I have read that she was an Orient and Alexander was completely besotted with her when he laid eyes on her the first time...the TV version Roxanne does not seem to fit the description...I had hoped that they would cast someone with a bit of Orient features or someone really stunning since Rohit really deserves such a lady to be cast opposite him...after all he has done an amazing job bringing Alexander to life!

Originally posted by: sashashyam
No, my dear, I don't. She is just not up to either Alexander or Rohit. Watch her carefully in the Friday episode, and you just might agree with me, especially about the latter. It is a pity.

And I am saying this quite objectively, not like one of those possessive mothers who thinks no girl is good enough for her son!😉 Come to think of it, Alexander already has three mothers, so he might as well have me too!

I think she will ride on horseback in India. Those solid wheeled chariots must be absolute rattletraps!

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago

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inlieu

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Posted: 7 years ago

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I think so too. They say he had this aura and charisma, that captivated his men enough to follow him to the end of the world and women probably fawned over him. I agree that mother figures tend to have a soft spot for the hard on the outside, tender on the inside type of guys. They look for that little child and want to shower their affection.

Because the makers chose an older actor to play Alexander (Rohit), we don't register an important aspect of Alexander's life: the fact that he was just a teenager when he started to fight wars for Macedonia, and that he was only 20 when he became king. Still a "young" boy, far from home - there could be no better candidate for the welling of the "Awww, poor baby" emotion in these mothers' hearts. His love for Olympias and bond with her must have been very well known, and this was another aspect of Alexander that other mothers found endearing. While he was out traveling the world, he must have missed Olympias, and these other women sought to fill that gap. Alexander, too, was probably more than pleased to be the recipient of this affection, and his generosity towards them only cemented this relationship. He was viewed in many ways as the ideal son who puts one's mother above all else, and this is a privilege and respect that a lot of mothers must have craved from their own sons (Darius being a great example).

Alexander always sought Olympias' approval, consciously or subconsciously. He may not have do so directly, but his actions and decisions were driven by the upbringing she gave him and the confidence she had in him. So this feeling probably transferred on to the other mother figures in his life whom he wanted approval from. Queen Ada's eyes positively beamed with pride when he walked out on to the balcony to address the Farsis with her, when he cut open the Gordian knot in simple but smart way that no one had ever thought of, when she called him Sikander and explained its meaning, and when his men chanted Sikander! Sikander! in a show of faith in his vision and "right" to be Emperor of Asia.

If you remember my response to your post on The mystery of the missing mother

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4987359&PID=147219613&#p147219613

I am reposting here some paragraphs

Sisygambis - Would a mother by any another name be as loving?

Like many of my fellow viewers and forum members I was very much looking forward to seeing Alexander-Sisygambis interactions, not just because of what we know of their first meeting from history/legend but also because I wanted to see if my hypothesis about Alexander's soft corner for a maternal figure was on point.

Alexander is known to have been courteous towards Sisygambis right from the beginning. There is no doubt that his upbringing and noble lineage contributed to his respectful and charismatic approach to dealing with the royal family but I believe the shrewder side of Alexander did not want to get off on the wrong foot with his newly conquered Persian citizens.

Alexander did not expect cultural assimilation from his subjects, rather he revelled in the diversity of the peoples and lands he ruled over. What better way to harmonize this than to show them that his Persian-Macedonian subjects were, in his eyes, equal to the Macedonians from his birthplace, and that they had the right to be treated equally well?

As a lover of philosophy and culture, probably due to his education, he would have wanted to preserve the majesty of the Persian empire, which until then had been the biggest empire in the world. Why would a person as sensible as Alexander want to destroy such an exotic culture and disrupt their social practices by imposing his own?

Just as marriages were used to resolve or pre-empt political issues, the public acceptance and display of a filial bond between Alexander and the mother of the deserted royal family provided an extremely powerful image and reassurance to the fearful population. With the scene of Queen Ada declaring Alexander to be her son, my hopes of seeing Sisygambis were dashed, but I am glad the makers did not omit this important public display of affection altogether.

Alexander adopted his people and wanted them to do the same with him. He understood early on that in order to expand and conquer efficiently, he needed to avoid unnecessary bloodshed so that he could rule over people's hearts and not through fear. This would not only ensure their loyalty towards him in his absence and quell potential uprisings, but also increase his popularity amongst his subjects. As he says in Episode 113 - loyalty cannot be bought or forced. Persia appeared to be a patriarchal society so if the new "alpha male" in power who would control their fates were accepted as one of them, they would feel more at ease.

One of my favourite scenes in the show so far is in Episode 99 when Alexander bids his mother farewell, and says "to me you are above my life, dream, and goal" and then when he shakes his head imperceptibly asking his mother not to cry for him. He knows very well what it means for her to fear losing him forever while having the courage to let him spread his wings to leave the nest. They both know deep down that this may be their last meeting but on the outside we see their common trait: eternal optimism. Alexander's eyes simultaneously showed so much tenderness and determination to make his mother proud that I was spellbound by Rohit's performance in that scene.

They say children will always be a part of their mothers no matter how old they become, but in this case Olympias will always be a part of Alexander no matter how old and mature he becomes. As a result, Alexander would probably have a lot of respect for women and be appreciative of their intelligence and power. She was a tour de force that truly instilled in him the confidence and titanium (or perhaps Adamantium) will, so he was not bound by the traditional patriarchal mindset of women being inferior. It was telling that he comforted his sister when Philip wanted to marry her off forcefully as he did not agree to it either.

Back to my hypothesis, I had been wondering if seeing a mother figure so far from home, who was deserted by her son, softened him in a way that would be unexpected even by his aides. He would have never done that to his own mother. Sisygambis and Alexander must have made quite the impression on each other that resulted in the famous filial bond. As for Darius' mother disowning him and adopting Alexander, if this is ever shown I would not find it surprising at all. We've seen how little Darius cares for his own daughter and uses her as a pawn. Surely his mother would know of this trait but would not accept being humiliated by his cowardice when he deserted them. We are told repeatedly that Darius was a merchant and not a born ruler, so his escape was the result of his calculation of profit versus loss during the battle and not what a true leader would have done.

Originally posted by: sashashyam
You know, my dear, there must have been something about the real Alexander which made women of his mother's age feel as if he were their son too. For all his tough, world conqueror image, there is still a little boy somewhere inside who would revel in being looked after and cossetted.

I wrote about this inner little boy seeking praise and acceptance when I was describing Alexander's reaction to the applause after he unties the Gordian knot. And more recently, while describing his attitude towards this stuffy trio of Barsine & Co., I wrote that had Sisygambis been there, she would, as she is said to have done, cooked him delicacies with her own hands and fed him, and he would have revelled in it, and purred like a sleek, contented lion cub with its mamma.

It is a great pity that we had no such scenes of Alexander with his mothers other than Olympias, for the one with Ada was prefunctory. Rohit would have aced them.

No, I did not read your mind, but very often we are of the same mind, and this time it was simultaneous!

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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