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Ron

@ronshaan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: hunniah
I will never understand you TVS fans, ever... Adi wasn't married, hell he wasn't even engaged. Sugini knew that TVS was married, and I dunno maybe it's just me but doesn't matter how amazing the guy is I certainly wouldn't want to be labelled as a person who would break a marriage, especially when you are a naachne waali. I mean, its common sense to not want to go after a guy who is married but on top of that, dancers are famous for breaking marriages. So what did you guys want her to do? Tell TVS to doesn't matter if you have a wife I'll still let you buy me?

I mean, as amazing you TVS fans think he is, if he really was he would have divorced Reva and married Sugini. As for Reva, well at the time she really wasn't as bad as she has become NOW. And even if she was bad no body in the family knew that. So after she begged Adi to save her marriage, naturally Adi would want to help his maami save her marriage and Sugini wanted to disprove people that naachney waaliya aren't marriage breakers that they are famous for.

I mean, seriously, do you people really don't see why Sugini did what she did? Adi fell in love with her because of who she is inside. Things like that happen. There is nothing wrong with it. TVS hasn;t bought her or made a "claim" on her, she is a person of her own, TVS didn;'t "own" her. He didn't have any HUQQ on her. Especially not unless he was unmarried and free fro any oligations towards another woman.

And I am saying all that as a neutral in this Adi/Sugni + TVS/Sugini shipper fight.

Adi wasn't married, hell he wasn't even engaged --- Yes he was !!!! He was engaged to AMRITA ,

if he really was he would have divorced Reva and married Sugini - He said that too but sugni didnt want that she wanted vikram to remain married to reva and continue the dead marriage

well at the time she really wasn't as bad as she has become NOW - how do you know this ??? did u see any old days of her marriage with vikram and sow her as a great wife ??

More wrong points on your post ... but i wont highlight them now...
I guess u didn't watch Phir subah hogi or joined it recently cos the info u gave is wrong

if sugni had problem with breaking couples why did she break adi amrita's engagment ? when she sold her self why didn't she think of the woman of any thakur who would buy her ? why didnt she LEAVE that place .. vikram did not force her to remain with him .. she left him and he let her go but she decided to ruin her self ... sell her self ... and vikram saved her from being Raped because of her foolish decisions ...

Edited by ronshaan - 12 years ago

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Julie

@JulieD

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Vinnie bravo to you for explaining that important fact many choose to ignore.

You know to date , I don't believe Sugni has ever apologised to Amrita for betraying her like that. That really changed my opinion about Sugni and the fact that in the entire world, Aditya, the nephew of her love/fiancee and the fiancee of her friend, was the only guy she could have found to marry.

I have my opinion and others have theirs, but for those two facts, Sugni has lost my support. You don't betray people who have helped you in your worst times like that ever. She can try as hard as she wants but "Mahaan" is something she will never be.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: hunniah
I will never understand you TVS fans, ever... Adi wasn't married, hell he wasn't even engaged. Sugini knew that TVS was married, and I dunno maybe it's just me but doesn't matter how amazing the guy is I certainly wouldn't want to be labelled as a person who would break a marriage, especially when you are a naachne waali. I mean, its common sense to not want to go after a guy who is married but on top of that, dancers are famous for breaking marriages. So what did you guys want her to do? Tell TVS to doesn't matter if you have a wife I'll still let you buy me?

I mean, as amazing you TVS fans think he is, if he really was he would have divorced Reva and married Sugini. As for Reva, well at the time she really wasn't as bad as she has become NOW. And even if she was bad no body in the family knew that. So after she begged Adi to save her marriage, naturally Adi would want to help his maami save her marriage and Sugini wanted to disprove people that naachney waaliya aren't marriage breakers that they are famous for.

I mean, seriously, do you people really don't see why Sugini did what she did? Adi fell in love with her because of who she is inside. Things like that happen. There is nothing wrong with it. TVS hasn;t bought her or made a "claim" on her, she is a person of her own, TVS didn;'t "own" her. He didn't have any HUQQ on her. Especially not unless he was unmarried and free fro any oligations towards another woman.

And I am saying all that as a neutral in this Adi/Sugni + TVS/Sugini shipper fight.

First, I do not want TVS to end up with Sugni, he deserved better. Had you even watched this show from the beginning, you would have sided with him over Aditya in a heart beat and also would have chosen Amrita over Sugni if it came to loving someone from the inside. So this post has nothing to do with my favoring TVS; it is more about the ugliness of the three characters.

Also what does it matter if Aditya was not married? He was engaged to be married to Amrita. How does it make it OK to end a relationship if a couple are engaged? Destroying a relationship and emotionally blackmailing her friend's fiancee to marry you is WRONG. Perhaps you are supportive of this behavior, I am not. I think do not think it is OK to move in on a guy that your friend likes...but perhaps in your code book this is fine but not ours. Aditya and Amrita were in love with each each other. When you intrude on a relationship in this way, it is wrong.

Ultimately Sugni showed she was a relationship breaker - her actions were WRONG.

Sungi ruined the relationship between Aditya and Amrita for her own selfish needs. She didn't have to go with TVS; she could have left the village.- after all that is the decision she and her mother ended up making once they could not ensnare Aditya. Also Sugni didn't have to sell herself either.

And talking about the Sardakai...she was going to ruin the marriage of some other woman who probably didn't want her husband with a nachniwalee - how was their marriage any less important?

The marriage of TVS and Reva was dead ...it was not even a stable one...TVS did not love her, Reva was faking a mental illness and wanted the money and status...so how was this even a marriage that even needed to be preserved? TVS wanted a divorce. Reva was unpleasant from the start!

TVS got divorce papers but it was Sugni who tore them up - did you miss that episode too?

And if Aditya wanted to help, how does it help either by taking Sugni away from TVS and TVS from her? Want to save a marriage? There is something called marriage counseling and if the marriage is not working, it is NOT his place to make matters worse.

And it is very wrong what Aditya did. Eyeing the woman whom your uncle loves in a sexual manner is revolting and then marrying her? If you have feelings like that, you do not act on them. Just because they (TVS and Sugni) were not married does not make it ok.

It is disgusting.

These two men were bonded in a father-son relationship - if you don't see anything wrong in Sugni transferring her feelings from one to another, then heaven help you.

Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: hunniah
And why Sugini did the things she did? I guess she got caught up in the moment, and maybe she wanted to move on and not be tied to TVS in any way shape and form? I would agree that Sugini did come between Adi and his girlfriend and I kind of hated her for that for a bit but if Sugini hadn't married Adi, TVS would have done the sur dhakaayi thing that Thaakurs do to naachney waaliyan. Aadi was only trying to help his Maami, he wasn't looking at Sugini as someone's (TVS') amaanat (hate that sexist term, btw...) but someone who was helping him save his maami's marriage.

But then again why am I saying these things, you guys just won't understand. No matter how hurt you are you never do the things that TVS is doing right now. You don't just listen to someone blindly and trust a person like Reva, especially since he knows what kinda person she is. I am quite annoyed at Sugini for trusting Reva right now. The show is frustrating but not for the reasons you guys think it is.

I mean sure Sugini and TVS jodi was great, despite the huge age difference, but TVS should have just divorced Reva long ago instead of doing the whole drama he did very early on.

When you want to move, you don't go ahead and sell yourself and ruin the lives of others in the process...it is NOT OK to come between someone because they are just engaged. If your friend liked someone, would you chase after her her fiancee? After all, they're not married...perhaps that is not a relationship you value, but that, in the minds of a lot of us on the forum is WRONG.

TVS ended up doing it indirectly by giving Aditya the money and IF you are doing this on behalf someone, you do NOT fall in love with them OR marry them.

And we do know what TVS is doing wrong - we've said it, but that does NOT justify ANYTHING that Aditya, Gulabiya and Sugni have done...these three actually are bigger culprits because of their actions these behaviors started. TVS actually LEFT Sugni but she chased after him again. So explain that.

And again, TVS wanted to divorce Reva, but Sugni tore up the papers and Aditya refused to let him divorce his darling Mami. He didn't even suggest this as an option to TVS that he could support and as you can see, he never has. He's a very disappointing male lead.

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Julie

@JulieD

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#15

It always pisses me off when Aditya and Amrita's engagement is dis-credited. What does it matter if they won't married? She was engaged to him and living in his home with him and his family, and Sugni herself had brought a gift for their engagement.

But the main point people tend to over look is that Amrita was Sugni's friend. She was the only female thakur to ever show kindness to Sugni. She never did Sugni a single wrong deed and Sugni did not not think twice before stabbing her in the back. This is what I cannot stand about Sugni and her fake words about not wanting to be labelled a home wrecker. Some one needs to tell that girl the meaning of the word friend.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: hunniah
I missed a few episodes here and there, I do that because unlike American or British shows, Indian shows tend to drag on quite a bit.

I'm not saying the show is perfect, just that Sugni isn't really THAT much at fault. I think her motive was to get married to Adi and then TVS would get discouraged and maybe move on with his life, and then she'd leave Adi for his gf/fiancee. I agree with you that I didnt like the way they handled that but the show creators were hell bent on getting Adi and Sugni together. I mean, name one Indian show where people behave like normal human beings would in real life? I can't think of any! I just give Sugni the benefit of the doubt. She wasn't in the right frame of mind when she did the marriage n the gun point thing.

As for TVS publicly announcing, well he should have divorced Reva first before doing that. He alsoshouldn't have lied to Sugni and hide the fact that he was in fact married. I don't think decent guys do that.

And everything else he's been doing nowadays? I dunno how you guys can see that and think he's justified. I mean, he has enough brain cells to put two and two together, or at least not trust a person who is only with his for status and money.

And a result, you missed some crucial elements of this show...O, Sugni is very, very much at fault. When you emotionally blackmail the man of your friend to engage in a fake marriage...that is going to last a lifetime and without her consent or letting her know..THAT IS WRONG! And then, if you want him to move on with his life..You do not parade yourself in front him.

If she wanted to do the Sardakai, she could have done it in private where it would not have been known to TVS - why do it in a public arena? She knew TVS was the richest man in the area.

Thus all these actions have no justification for her behavior.

We ALL knew why he lied, but this in NO WAY justifies any of the behavior Sugni or that of Aditya or Gulabiya who made matters worse.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: JulieD
It always pisses me off when Aditya and Amrita's engagement is dis-credited. What does it matter if they won't married? She was engaged to him and living in his home with him and his family, and Sugni herself had brought a gift for their engagement.

But the main point people tend to over look is that Amrita was Sugni's friend. She was the only female thakur to ever show kindness to Sugni. She never did Sugni a single wrong deed and Sugni did not not think twice before stabbing her in the back. This is what I cannot stand about Sugni and her fake words about not wanting to be labelled a home wrecker. Some one needs to tell that girl the meaning of the word friend.

Sugni can NEVER be redeemed. Plus she lied to TVS mother and yet she and her mother were all show offy when TVS deceived them. These two made up their own excuse to justify their actions but when TVS did what he did, they could only see wrong in him.

If I knew my son liked a girl and then my grandson was getting married to her and she had feelings for him, I'd take the girl and throw her out of my house...a woman like that is a wh**e if she does not have any boundaries when it comes to relationships.

Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago

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Ron

@ronshaan

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#18

this is the reason why some people support adini wthout watching the show just because cv decided sugni and aditiya are made for each other and are the main leads but once i asked why adi is main lead what did he do till now that we can give him the credit of main lead

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