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Posted: 13 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: minizz

Piu🤗what a lovely analysis of that moment.It was perfectly described.

Mini 🤗Jhappi pappi Tu idhar aa gayi..M so glad🤗


Oh...my heart did go out to Sugni cause she is going to be disillusioned soon.Her heart is going to be smashed into pieces.I can feel it.I totally agree with you about the touch part. Vikram has managed to completely overpower her senses and poor thing,she has never experienced anything like this before and she is so innocent that she feels this is love.
You really have to feel for Sugni as she being lured into a trap of illusion .She thinks' Vikram's love to be an oasis but the bitter fact is that it really is a mirage


😭but she is a strong girl...she will bounce back from it and Piu mazaa toh tab aayega cause though I love the lovey dovey scenes, these two are at their best when they are confronting each other.It is going to be intense.I can't wait to see that on my TV screen😃and that other guy.
I know you and me think alike after all we both are FELLOW PAAPI ATMAS na😆I am desperately waiting for their face off.It si indeed going to be intense.With Sugni slipping as sand from Vikram's fist ,I wonder will he turn into an obsessive one or will he still play COOL!! I am all in for their fireworks together or against each other😛


..did you see the way he was saying the seeta maiyya dialogue?Was I the only one who found it funny😕
OH POPAT ka every action is FUNNY..He has the amazing knack of turning even the most intense scenes into FUNNY ones.HE is really that bad😡




Yeh le ek aur badi si hug for this beautiful write up🤗

Ek badi si jhappi to you as well🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: minizz

@ash-arti thank you so much for the lovely pics😳


Piu,loved the second part of the analysis.Yep,Vikram was acting like a teenager desperate to hear an "I love You" from his GF's mouth na.That was cute.I loved his expression when his plans to spend some time with Sugni were thwarted.bechara he was so disappointed😆Thank God you agree about the Sita maiyya dialogue😊
Thanks a lot for this wonderful write up yaar😳

Mini😳TVS was too cute na😆But Adi😡Chii My POPAT aisa kyun karta hai re😆Thankeez for the appreciation..I am really glad🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: kamala2012



Me too... this should have been a very powerful scene. The man is searching for a woman who took away, directly or indirectly, his mother's mangal sutra. He has just heard that she is dead, and may be, along with her, the mangal sutra also. How many emotions should go through his face- anger, hurt, disappointment. But we did not see anything. At least I don't know how to interpret the expression that was shown😔

Kamala..Its very sad that inspite of an extremely well written role and brilliant scene .Mr.SE just fails to deliver.All he has is the same expression on his face
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: croziaxx

good analysis dear for me this is ok-ok episode .. except first and mma-beti scene.. i felt ditto as u describe about first scene.. VS would fail in his plan at last mament... but scene was so strong both actor * kahne ki jrurat hai* 😊..

Mansi🤗Thankeez😳 And yes kehne ki wakai zarurat nahi that VS are fantastic😳

i think whenever vik in white kurta and he was alone with sugani he looks more dangerous...😲 ... but i feel him adorable when he was open his arms and closed his eyes... he looks calm,cool and very genuine ...
Ahem ahem😆Cough cough...TVS indeed looks qatil na in white kurta😳
and piu me too felt bad when sugu said to her mami " jab unhone aapko chuaa tha"... poor girl, she is total lost in his karizma, can't differentiate between love and hormones effect..
Maa-beti scene was nice..she is worry about her daughter... but what can she do ? if viks want to do something wrong with sugani.. her all family are greedy .. and if viks want he can buy her whole family.. so alone what can she do... ? 😕..
Yes the poor little girl is confusing the amorous fancy of a teenage mind to be love..Alas TVS has indeed cast a spell on him and the maa bet scene was indeed a treat to watch..Both Narayani and Gulki are fabulous in those scenes👏
and again sugi-adi 'jaberdasti' driving ..🥱 ... why every day same scene ? and piu from yesterday me trying to prepare myself to accept popat .. and believe me he looks good always.. if he is quiet.. but dialogue delivery like a * chotu bacha lagao reading to his/her text book...😛 i want to *mukti from moh-maya of sugvi *😭 ..but now i want to know his real motive, i don't think vik is a kind of guy who use a girl only for pleasure.. so wait and watch...

hahahahhah Mansi he indeed LOOks hawwt jab tak wo apana muh nahi kholta😆..jab wo apna chabar chabar muh chalata hai...I feel like throwing a brick on screen..He is that bad😡and OMG that was hilarious😆..You are so right about his dialogue delivery🤣🤣🤣Where is your charan😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Sweet_Krishna

I hope writers to put some flash back episodes depicting how it all started in Gulabiya's life. How she was forced to accepting this practice, how she met Jwala and how she brought up Sugni. That will give more substance to depicting life of a bedia in the serial. Narayani is awesome and shall surely translate that pain perfectly on screen.

It would be really wonderful if CV's actually show that..Narayani will be FANTASTIC in those scenes👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: -rupa-

Awesome ...post piu . 👏👏👏...

Thankeez Rupa🤗

Hmm so sugini failed to hug vikram ..as u said he will loose sugini in future for some reason even he will be close to enough to get her . Dhanuma saved sugini today but why she gave that look to sugivi ...she work at vikram place & i felt vikram got little scared or not being comfortable at that point of time.
If Vikarm's love is like a mirage for Sugni luring her only to be left unsatisfied..Simialarly Sugni is like that sand for Vikram which now matter how much he tries to grab in his fist,she will slip out leaving him empty handed.
Hmm sugini is totally confused as what is love ...even i noticed when she said loved when being touched ..oh that is what she think . Her thought on love is totally dictated by vikram now.
Sugni is mistaking her amorous fancy to be love totally echoing Vikram's words
Is int vikram was bit different today . in Night i felt he was confident , genuine wanted sugini to be close to him , morning time he pulled sugini to spent time with her , listen her saying i love u . Sugini who was still thinking about question on marriage ...she wanted vikram to ans this but her little smile was cute when everyone tried to be kabab ka haddi between them .
Vikram did indeed look different today 😆The scene had a charm of its own😆
What expression on vikram , like child eagerly waitting to spent time with GF ...few minute & 100 of expression on his face ..amazing . I loved it watching there scene ...as u said if we dont remember last two episode ..i felt he really like sugini .
Yes!! Vikarm's antics were indeed a treat to watch..I really loved Varun in those EPIC hilarious scenes😆
Hmm adi & sugini ...ahh amrita is making way for there love . Some how i am not able to enjoy there scene together ...whole scene was dull & need more power to enjoy . It was turning point for adi to know bedini is dead & somewhere he got this information from sugini ...he could have ponder , expression shown for everything being connected .

Same here Rupa...WHAT A WASTE of an extremely layered and emotionally charged scene😡..All that POPAT does is rattofy his dialogue and says in a monotonous tone with thae same WHAT THE (quoting from you😆)expression on his face.The whole SCENE becomes absolutely DULL because he is not able to get the subtle nuances of the character ,his angst and pain..Ahhh day by day my opinion gets strengthened that Neil Bhatt or Mishal Raheja would have been a MARVELLOUS choice to play Adi and then we would have seen what wonders they could have done.Believe me when I say this..They would have really made us think and still be clueless who had BETTER CHEMISTRY WITH SUGNI Adi or Vikram...But here the clear cut picture is Vikram Adi the actor makes Adi the CHARACTER a complete lacklustre
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Did not quote your post here but there are a couple of well observed points and a couple I want to add. TVS is a really crafty guy. Here's what was not pointed out...HE made Sugni come to him...he did not approach Sugni with the hug...that is he never moved towards her to take her into his arms...just like he's not willing to accept just a "yes" to a question "do you love me." What a ploy. While he held out his arms for her it was his way of saying to her..."you want me, you have to come to me...you will do the work." And in making her do the work, if he backs away with his feelings, he can always say, but you also came towards me...you walked into my arms. I didn't do anything...it's going to cause her more confusion and she might even start thinking she did something to make it all happen.

Nice observation Laila..We have already been discussing it since last threads that Vikram's craft does indeed lies in the fact that instead of imposing his will on Sugni he actually goes the other way round and make her come to him rather than his going to her.Such is his manipulation that he not only knows how to play his cards but also its repercussions..He knows Sugni will come to him ,so it is interesting to see his body language .He is confident that Sugni will indeed come to him
@ BOLD interesting possibility👏 Couldn't agree more
The fact she equates his touch with love suggests it is all a dreamlike, physical, butterflies in your stomach, giddy infatuation on her part. Rather sad.
Its trueand sad too
The question though, when these two realize that this is not love on the part of either of these parities, HOW far will they have gone? Will they have become initmate with each other? I doubt it...or at least I hope, if Sugni does not get a wedding ring, she will get out of this mess. BUT will she be able to do it emotionally and will TVS let her...
All these questions are yet to be answered which make the show even more interesting
Will TVS punish her indirectly and she becomes an unwilling but unfortunate person in her own Sadarkari (Sp?)
TVS will not marry her that is for sure..Even if he did Sar-dhakai of Sugni she would have never accepted that..So instead I guess he chose the other way to make her surrender with her OWN will and we also see that TVS is a pro in mind games so when Sugni really talks about physical proximity being a taboo before marriage he shrewdly puts his point that nothing is wrong or right in love and marriage is but only a tag.So that itself made it pretty clear that TVS does try to even wipe off the whole issue of MORALITY associated with physical relationship without marriage.
The major twist would be if TVS is married; but we have not had any major hints of this BUT what would be interesting is to find out that TVS has been in the habit of engaging in conquests over women and has a reputation in Delhi of being a womanizer. It is quite believable as he has got all of us getting a little crush on him 😉

hahahahha We all do Love TVS😛 and his CHARMS thats true.😆.but what really holds in store for us..We are yet to witness
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Posted: 13 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: croziaxx

[Vikram's such behaviour.

1.Maybe the CV's are very smart indeed and are playing with us ,Keeping Vikram's character under wraps to build the interest generating curiosity confusing the viewers.Ahh the ENIGMA' named Vikram..This even makes his character more fascinating.

agree with u me too think cvs are smart enough and want to keep remain this suspense as long as possible..nowadays his character is main attraction point.. everybody talking about him ... sugni,her mother,her family, vikram's family .. aur aoudians bhi..😛 sab ke sab..

hahahha True CV's are really bad na always made us fall for Vikram and now they really are confusing us even more na..More confusion=more discussion=more TRP's😛

2. Is this love?This question remains unanswered for Vikram too'.The day Vikram laid his eyes upon Sugni he was clearly fascinated..in fact bowled over the spunk,the charms ,the free spirit of Sugni'He clearly did fall for her 'She generated Curiosity in him..Her untamed spirit..Her defiance to the evil practices ,her dreams,her enthusiasm in spite of her life being in doldrums clearly did attract Vikram.We also see that he was clearly smitten by her ,coz who then watches a slide show of a bedni in the middle of the night in a closed room.But can we really equate 'BEING CHARMED' by someone ' TO BEING IN LOVE'.

I think this is not a love both side.. for sugani it is infatuation only and for vikram can't say.. but seems he is using her for some hidden reason.. but may be in future he will feel about her purely... can't say..😕

Yes that's why The title of the post is Is this love? A question that remains unanswered

Well as I have always maintained that For Vikarm Sugni is like that untamed wild river which he wants to confine within his boundaries.She is like a challenge for him to conquer..To GAIN HER MIND ,HEART,BODY AND SOUL AND lure her into COMPLETE SURRENDER.

Now whether this feeling to CONQUER Sugni can be equated with LOVE?

With this the question which does arise is WHAT IS TRUE LOVE? Love has many forms and What it seems at this point of time that Vikram really is wanting to POSSESS her .Hence the anxiety ,the restlessness.And will this anxiety and restlessness grow into a dirty OBSESSION or he has other ulterior motives?We are yet to see.

Well a more interesting facet which was clearly manifested in the next scene is that Vikram really has a GENUINE concern for Adi ..The way his brow creases and he jumps out of the jeep saying Adi clearly shows that This Mama bhanja do share a close bond .We have earlier also seen that Adi too revers him a lot and they both share a very close bond.

It would be really interesting to see how this bond is strengthened or severed due to the shift in dynamics between Vikram Sugni or Adi Sugni'I must say A BRILLIANTLY CRAFTED SCRIPT!!Daring to be different!

One more thing is evident that Amu will clearly be the one who will be a means to throw Adi-Sugni together and DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY Adi will be a saviour for Sugni.

The way Sugni looks back at Vikram while driving off with Adi itself manifests that the words of Gulabiya are indeed haunting her and she wants to clear her doubt ASAP.

Next is the Adi-Sugni scene'.I am apalled. .I am angry'.How can someone actually SLEEPWALK without any expression or voice modulation when you are given a scene with a huge panorama of emotions.ALAS the actor fails again and makes a BRILLIANTLY WRITTEN SCENE looks MUNDANE AND YAWN WORTHY.So many emotions..Hurt ,desperation..his promise to his mother'Everything just wasted.Even the BG voice was monotonous'No modulation as such..REALLY CV's Was this THE BEST ACTOR you could get when the scenes demand so much from him.

Because of him scene looks dull.. and as i said his dialogue delivery just like 'a chotu bcha lagao reading in his class room and that too then ' his NIKMMA MASTER' slept in to the class room, infront of students .. without comma, and full stop.. 😆

🤣Can I say I lubb you because of your hilarious BANG on👏 comment about my POPAT.🤣🤣🤣.Ahh banda looks great but only when he dosen't choose to craok in his horrendous voice🤣😆

Storywise the scene brought out so many things 'Sugni in future may be a halp for Adi and Adi though unwillingly or unknowingly does listen to the advice of Sugni about calling Sita maiyaa for help.[The transition was very badly executed by the actor].

So in short a very WELL WRITTEN and fast paced Episode with the action shifting from VS slowly to AS.Both of them being given equal footage .So WHAT NEXT? We have to wait and see how Vikram answers Sugni's queries and how she confesses love ?Well LOVE IS IT ?The question certainly remains unanswered. Both for SUGNI AND VIKRAM.


What say ... only time or me say only cvs can give the answer...
Haan lets wait and watch😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
#39
hi piu...


well written and very apt analysis...

dont have much time to discuss all what have you written

but as you mentioned..amrita will be instrumental in bringing adi and sugini more closer .. and also in thwarting TVS ke plans...but how they are going to tackle all this is a big question..this unpredictability makes the show worth a watch...finally some sensible show came up after GULAAL but still it would be Gulaal any day for me...i so wish mhaara neil hota hamra aditya babu...bt i dont hate the current one either...he needs to improve though
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Posted: 13 years ago
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"The major twist would be if TVS is married; but we have not had any major hints of this BUT what would be interesting is to find out that TVS has been in the habit of engaging in conquests over women and has a reputation in Delhi of being a womanizer. It is quite believable as he has got all of us getting a little crush on him 😉"

LOL...correct Laila2009, i kinda got a crush on him as well due to his charm...waahahahaa...
anyways now we know that his wife passed on recently...where to from now?...interesting stuff
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love this forum
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