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Posted: 9 years ago
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Just now watched yest epi.Suman is so happy to see her daughter fight with her fiance.What kind of mom she is.Seeing her daughter in so much mental stress n above that the fight with Akshat.She is happy because she thinks.This fight can bring Abeer back in Meher's life.I have never seen a mom like her.She behaves like Abeer mom more than Meher's mom.Pathetic lady.

Abeer was like did he shout on Meher.As if he never shouted at Meher.

Honestly I wish Meher don't marry Akshat n also don't re-marry Abeer.Better she stay single n happy.CV's can show this kind of track.Ishaan custody with Meher.But Abeer can also see Ishaan.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yeah that was awful. Suman is very ungrateful considering Akshat has been there for so many years and Abeer walked out on her daughter. Its almost impossible for me to like Suman. How can she so easily want Meher to risk her heart getting broken by Abeer again?

But I actually liked the fight between Aksaht and Meher because it seemed healthy. They both talked to each other and explained their concerns. Fighting with someone is actually a very intimate thing.

Yeah Abeer is such a hypocrite for being angry with Akshat yelling at Meher -- as if he hasn't done worse.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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See from beginning I had my reservations on Suman. She belongs to that old school of thought. Pati Parameshwar hai. No matter what nonsense he does. She allowed Shyam to mess up her life as well as her children's life.
If not for bua both Meher and tunnu would have been in streets. Bua actually supported her brother's family forgoing personal life. Suman also have no means of independent income and I don't think she has ever tried to do something to be independent.
Even in flashback all demands of Taiji she is the one who is ever ready to obey, hide from Meher and take it as fine because she thinks a bride's family has to bow in front of groom's family.
Meher's subservience in the past came from her and now even after she is divorced, Suman wants to bring back Abeer in Meher's life. Because of same principle. Once married always married, pati paremeshwar hai.
Pati can be Parameshwar if he behaves like Parameshwar or Lord Shiva. He has to have the qualities of Shiva to be treated like Parameshwar. And Abeer and Akshat don't have that qualities at this time.
I also want Meher to stay single. Not marry Akshat, neither go back to Abeer. Remain with Ishaan with visiting rights to Abeer for Ishaan.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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suman is the most sensible one...she knows her stubborn daughter inside out...akshat supporting meher and ishu thats a whole different story...just becos akshat helped them that doesn't mean meher has to marry to compensate the 8 yrs...suman knows though meher is denying it...she is a mother afterall...she knows meher is still deeply in love with abeer...and this marriage is a destruction of 4 lives...Mehbeerish-akshat...further more what will be ishu position in akshat's life when akshat-meher have their own kids...he is a already showing his flaws now...she could see the future of meher's so called perfect family...noone will be happy...fact cannot be changed...whether akshat shouts his lungs that ishu is his son...destiny and fate cannot be changed...the fact is ishu is Mehbeer's son...one day ishu needs his biological father...the man who gave birth to him...what ishu needs is his real parents love...suman knows though abeer is impulsive...hot-tempered...drunkard...he is flawed...but he has a golden heart that noone possessed...she is the only women who understand abeer's love and pain for meher and ishu...she is supporting abeer becos she knows her daughter and grandson happiness lies with abeer not akshat...

further more she is not fond of akshat...she is tolerating him for meher's sake...somewhere deep down the motherly instincts does tell her...akshat is not perfect as what everyone claims...while abeer though flawed and impulsive...he is the perfect one...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

suman is the most sensible one...she knows her stubborn daughter inside out...akshat supporting meher and ishu thats a whole different story...just becos akshat helped them that doesn't mean meher has to marry to compensate the 8 yrs...suman knows though meher is denying it...she is a mother afterall...she knows meher is still deeply in love with abeer...and this marriage is a destruction of 4 lives...Mehbeerish-akshat...further more what will be ishu position in akshat's life when akshat-meher have their own kids...he is a already showing his flaws now...she could see the future of meher's so called perfect family...noone will be happy...fact cannot be changed...whether akshat shouts his lungs that ishu is his son...destiny and fate cannot be changed...the fact is ishu is Mehbeer's son...one day ishu needs his biological father...the man who gave birth to him...what ishu needs is his real parents love...suman knows though abeer is impulsive...hot-tempered...drunkard...he is flawed...but he has a golden heart that noone possessed...she is the only women who understand abeer's love and pain for meher and ishu...she is supporting abeer becos she knows her daughter and grandson happiness lies with abeer not akshat...

further more she is not fond of akshat...she is tolerating him for meher's sake...somewhere deep down the motherly instincts does tell her...akshat is not perfect as what everyone claims...while abeer though flawed and impulsive...he is the perfect one...

Exactly...she might be old school but thats not why shecwants mehbeer back together...its bcoz she knows them both very welll...Meher doesnt love Akshat...she is comfortable around him as a friend...but she doesnt want to marry him coz she likes him or is even ready for it but bcoz she wants to get rid of Abeer...once Abeer is gome what will happen to Meher and Akshat's relationship??
A relationship based on friendship can turn into love but not when Meher still loves Abeer...she agrees to take gorward her relation with Akshat only bcoz she felt herself being attracted to Abeer...how can a relationship made only to keep away a third person last??Will Akshat be able to trust Meher and be free from insecurities...n the egfect all this will have on Ishaan.
. Its not that Suman loves Abeer more than Meher...if so she could have told Abeer about Ishaan long back...she trusts Abeer as she said in season 1. She knows he has a big heart and is a good person and no one can love Meher and Ishaan the way he does. Hence she wants them back together.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Look at the bigger picture. Mother's intuitively know what is good or not for their daughters. Suman is thankful to Akshat for his help over the past 8 years but, is Meher the payment for this favor?
Suman knows that Meher does not love and will not be happy with Akshat. Remember the conversations between them during the engagement and the SuHer body language during the ring exchange in the hospital. That would be the only reason for her to see chinks in this relationship.

Mind you, if a relationship is strong then nothing would be able to break it. When Abeer and Meher fight its very intense, personal and emotional. When Akshat and Meher fight you could only see friendship.

As for Meher marrying Abeer... her grouse is immaturity, instability, irresponsibility. Lets see how Abeer addresses these...

Abeer feeling bad about Akshat shouting at his love is just his possessiveness for Meher. Did he go threaten Akshat the next day? Also what made Meher go to Abeer in the middle of the night? She says she would have done it for any neighbor... like seriously!!!!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I've always had a problem with Suman, Vimal Bhai. Right from Day 1, she's all out in the support of her son-in-law. Even when he does the most drastic, impulsive things possible.

And more than often, it seems to me that she's supporting their reunion because of the old fashioned idea that they were husband and wife at one point of time, and it's their duty to get back together.

I like Bua more than Suman. She has a bad temper, but she's at least clear about the fact that Abeer is not to be trusted. A fact that I sadly agree with- this is my opinion :)

Lovely to see you after Begusarai forum, BTW!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Chessy I completely agree mother's intuitively know what is right and wrong for their children. Doesn't matter son or daughter. And that is a mark of a good mother. That's why even Madhavi likes Meher, because in Meher Madhavi sees a girl who can do course correction for her son. Irrespective of the truth about the child hidden from her, Madhavi still loves Meher.
So I have no problem Suman liking Abeer, but what I don't like is Suman indulging Abeer beyond a point. Making him feel like his faults are bachpana. And Suman calling and telling Abeer about Akshat-Meher fight obviously was in bad taste. She can nudge Meher, direct Meher, can direct Abeer also to correct the fault lines. She can get help of Madhavi for both of their course correction. Actually I had liked her card giving to Mehbeer to patch up on that Jagrata night, but what she did yesterday night was not at all right and in bad taste.
Meher I guess most of us here are clear she is making a mistake committing to Akshat and she is quite insincere about it.
And 2 people because they love passionately doesn't mean they have to be together. People who have seen movies like Meghamalhar, Pakshe, Vinnaithandi Varuvaya, Padheyam basically movies in Tamil and Malayalam which have explored the grey areas of human mind will understand me better. Story of Balachandra Menon and Nandini who are denied even a second chance in Pakshe or But will literally push you into tears. I cant even watch the last scene of Pakshe. Balachandran and Nandini never unite, yet their love is eternal. We can never tell who is at fault, who exploited, whose mistake.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-

I've always had a problem with Suman, Vimal Bhai. Right from Day 1, she's all out in the support of her son-in-law. Even when he does the most drastic, impulsive things possible.


And more than often, it seems to me that she's supporting their reunion because of the old fashioned idea that they were husband and wife at one point of time, and it's their duty to get back together.

I like Bua more than Suman. She has a bad temper, but she's at least clear about the fact that Abeer is not to be trusted. A fact that I sadly agree with- this is my opinion :)

Lovely to see you after Begusarai forum, BTW!


Same here nice to see you after Begusarai forum.I stopped watching the show.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

See from beginning I had my reservations on Suman. She belongs to that old school of thought. Pati Parameshwar hai. No matter what nonsense he does. She allowed Shyam to mess up her life as well as her children's life.

If not for bua both Meher and tunnu would have been in streets. Bua actually supported her brother's family forgoing personal life. Suman also have no means of independent income and I don't think she has ever tried to do something to be independent.
Even in flashback all demands of Taiji she is the one who is ever ready to obey, hide from Meher and take it as fine because she thinks a bride's family has to bow in front of groom's family.
Meher's subservience in the past came from her and now even after she is divorced, Suman wants to bring back Abeer in Meher's life. Because of same principle. Once married always married, pati paremeshwar hai.
Pati can be Parameshwar if he behaves like Parameshwar or Lord Shiva. He has to have the qualities of Shiva to be treated like Parameshwar. And Abeer and Akshat don't have that qualities at this time.
I also want Meher to stay single. Not marry Akshat, neither go back to Abeer. Remain with Ishaan with visiting rights to Abeer for Ishaan.

I completely agree. I also think because of Bua, Suman never really had to face the true cost of Shyam's inability to provide for his family so she doesn't see how hard the real world is like Meher and Bua who feel the pressure to provide for their family. If they ever ordered food in, it was Devki that would walk to work for 3 days to make up the loss. Even though Suman said lets fulfil tayji's demands but it would've been Devki who would've had to walk to work, work longer hours and deal with the creditors to fulfil that. I think that changes the way they look at Abeer.

I think for Bua it would be much harder to respect a man like Abeer who ran away from the responsibility of his wife and unborn child given that she felt responsible for a family that was not even her own. Not to mention the family was left financially destitute because of the wedding and with Meher pregnant the brunt of the additional responsibility would fall back on bua. Bua and Meher had to pay the price for Abeer's actions more than anyone so they take what he did a lot more seriously. I find it very ungrateful of Abeer to be rude to Bua, Abeer claims Meher is his yet he is disrespectful towards the woman who took care of her when he abandoned her. Without Bua's financial support it would've been very tough for Meher to look after Ishaan and further her career.

I find it very frustrating the way Suman supports Abeer's inappropriate actions. Saying his disowning KM on tv wasn't immature? He should've discussed it with his father in the privacy of his own home and at least heard his father's side of the story. You should always get all the facts before you make any decision. Also not calling Abeer out on kidnapping bua, coming to their house drunk, using the 60 lacs to blackmail them into staying in the house, taking Ishaaan, threatening to disclose Ishaan's paternity etc. Suman like KM and Madvhi is not making him face the consequences for his actions and without that Abeer will never learn to do things differently. And those actions make Meher more mistrustful of Abeer, not less.

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