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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

Excellent post!

Yup clearly Abeer just wants Meher back in his life by hook or crook. He just wants to bask in her presence. ❤️

I think over the next few days Abeer and Meher will get closer... Meher will slowly start to open her heart to him again but it will all go to hell with the Tunnu drama.

Somewhere Abeer has to find out what Meher has been hiding. Meher is still really hurt by what happened. Abeer just cares about whether Meher loves him or not. But Meher knows a relationship is about more than love... she feels a deep sense of betrayal and abandonment by him. So even if she realizes Abeer still loves her-- she won't let go the past hurt easily.


Thank you😊

I do think that all this pretense will blow up in his face though, when Meher finds out about him not being injured and his lending money to Tunnu which will be misconstrued by her.

I am on Meher's side though, clearly the girl has been through a lot of pain and is hiding something big. She has had her heart closed to any chance of happiness, and I hope Abeer finds out what she's gone through and makes things alright again.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyarnav

Awesome post..
today episode fully dedicated to abeer he teas meher he want to no abt her feelings.. aww he so cute in all the time


Thank you😊

And when isn't he cute? Even the way he snores is cute😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shiiya-

Great post!

I agree Abeer wants Meher's attention & all the care he can get from her & wants her back in life as she makes it complete. He still misses her presence in his life and it's so obvious. Don't think he's been leaving a chance to say that she's his biwi.
I really wonder what Meher's hiding from Abeer, maybe if Abeer knew then things wouldn't have gotten worse, he might have understood her better & Kuber surely has played a big role .. how confidently he was saying I'm not going to let both of them come together and that she sold her relationship for money. Hopefully things will change between them for the better after tunnu track & Meher realises that Abeer still cares & loves as much as he did before.


I think he's lost his anger completely. I wonder how that happened- maybe he realized that she's in a vulnerable position with the goons after her and that made him forget all his anger at her betrayal.

He's still completely hung over her, and he wants her back ASAP. But this is his subconscious speaking, I don't think he has admitted to himself that she means a great deal to him still.


I for one think the Tunnu track will make things worse I am waiting for Abeer to chance upon the box that holds her secrets.


More than Kuber, I find Shyam to be more fishy. But both fathers are a major hindrance for their relationship, while the two mothers are their biggest shippers around😆



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Great analysis!

I too thoroughly enjoyed the episode for the humour and further glimpses of Meher and Abeer's profound connection.

It's interesting to me that these last few episodes are garnering so much sympathy for Abeer. Even though I understand the fact that he has had something of a change of heart, I think the way he is treating Meher for his own pleasure, whatever that might be, is really unfair. The ambiguity of Abeer's intentions makes it difficult for me to sympathize with him completely in this situation, because he still appears really immature. He is having all this fun trying to make Meher confess her concern but he hasn't really questioned why he cares about her, and her family, so much. I am not questioning the genuineness of the concern itself, only that Abeer has not taken even a moment to think about what it implies in terms of his own feelings.

The truth, as Meher has said, is that Abeer is willing to point fingers at others but not willing to introspect and find out what is going on in his own heart. That's always been his biggest flaw, from what we know so far. He is so obviously flirting with her and goading her to say that she cares about him, but in the process he is revealing nothing to her in turn, which puts her in a very vulnerable position if she were to give any hint of her true feelings. Why would she take such a huge risk with her heart when she has no idea what his true intentions are, and how is she supposed to know when even he doesn't? As audience we can see that deep down Abeer craves Meher's love just as Meher craves Abeer's love but barring the way they act when the other is in danger, there has been no unquestionable sign, from either side that is the case.

It's probably not news to Meher that Abeer can be an absolute sweetheart and a hero who would risk his life for someone in danger. I mean the girl did fall hard and marry the lovable fellow, and she knows him better than anyone! It's almost like she is expecting these endearing acts but steeling herself against all his charms this time. This indicates that from her perspective, there is some negative we don't know about that outweighs all the positives, even the fact that she loves him. Until those issues are addressed, I don't think Meher will allow herself to indulge any attraction to Abeer, no matter how strong, and Abeer won't get past this ambiguous joking phase.

Aside: I feel like I am the only person kind of enjoying the Rati-Nissar angle. I like that it's not a straightforward love story, and that there are all these shady elements. Rati, instead of suffering silently, out-vamps the vamp... which makes her damn interesting, if not obviously positive. And I also thought Nissar's anger was justified today. Those guys were using some pretty disrespectful, sexist language 🤢 and even if it had nothing to do with him, I feel like our guardian-of-tameez would have gotten just as hot under the collar!


Thank you so much, this means a lot because I love your analyses on the forum. So insightful and brilliant👏


I think the past few episodes have made me side with Abeer a bit because it's plain endearing to see how much he cares for her. I don't know how he got over his resentment over her betrayal so soon, but it seems to have happened. Maybe his feelings resurfaced seeing her in a vulnerable position? I don't know.


What he's doing is completely off the line, but I am still willing to go with it because he has always taken the initiative in this relationship. Meher is the closeted one while he is the one who professes his love and makes grand, overwhelming gestures. So this is completely in character, and moreover this will pave the way for any changes ahead.


I do think he is playing with her, and I don't like it. However, I do feel that subconsciously, he still believes in Meher's goodness and wants to be desperately proved wrong. He wants some sign from the universe that she is not the manipulative gold-digger she turned out to be.


But I for one empathize with Meher the most, right from the beginning she's been my favorite character. Strong of conviction and will, independent and loyal. Superb characterization. I wouldn't worry about her at all because she's a tough nut to crack. Even if her feelings are changing she wouldn't let Abeer get even a whiff of it. And it's clear that there's something very painful about the past that is hidden to Abeer. It's what makes her so strong in her belief that Abeer and her is a thing of the past, history that is done and dusted with. Unless Abeer finds out the exact nature of what transpired, she is safe, because her sense of abandonment is very huge. Her father deserted her, and so did Abeer. She's not giving either of them another chance, NO.


I like women characters who are more than mere dolled-up caricatures, but Rati is too much. I like the fact that she outsmarted Loveleen, who sticks her nose into everyone's business. But the way she goes about it, and her stark changes in mood and demeanour- sweet one minute, and bitter the next, makes me think that something's wrong with her😊


Lovely comment!👏

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@samanalyse and @amri-- loved both of your posts.
Abeer strikes me as someone who doesn't really spend a lot of time in introspection. He just reacts on gut instinct. On the surface he is probably telling himself he is playing with Meher because he doesn't want to deal with his real feelings. But I agree with Amri, subconsciously he is looking for that sign that she wasn't an opportunist gold digger that broke his heart. To be honest I don't think he ever really believed it of her to begin with... it was just something he held onto to combat his pain that she didn't want to give them another try. What he really wants is a sign that they still have a chance.

In the current scenario, I feel like something changed for Abeer the moment she told him how hurt she was by the fact that he left... and the night she had the cough. Its like all of a sudden he is seeing the vulnerable Meher behind the facade of the impervious businesswoman. It was that same vulnerability that made him fall for her all those years ago. He wants to be her hero and it irks him that she is not letting him. It makes him upset to hear that he doesn't have a right to act like her husband. I think in the process of trying to get her to reveal her feelings, he will finally start accepting that his own have never changed.

Meher, on the other hand, will be a really tough cookie to crack. More than anyone else she knows how easy it is to fall for Abeer's charms. So she has steeled herself completely. I mean most people would be at least a little appreciative that he made dahl for her, that he got her cough syrup etc. But she doesn't want to need him at all because she knows once she gives an inch he will take a mile and her walls will all crumble.

I think even if Meher can admit to herself that she still loves him, it wouldn't change a thing on her end because her hurt is so deep. There would have to be some real change, or revelation that it would be worth taking that risk again with Abeer.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

@samanalyse and @amri-- loved both of your posts.

Abeer strikes me as someone who doesn't really spend a lot of time in introspection. He just reacts on gut instinct. On the surface he is probably telling himself he is playing with Meher because he doesn't want to deal with his real feelings. But I agree with Amri, subconsciously he is looking for that sign that she wasn't an opportunist gold digger that broke his heart. To be honest I don't think he ever really believed it of her to begin with... it was just something he held onto to combat his pain that she didn't want to give them another try. What he really wants is a sign that they still have a chance.

In the current scenario, I feel like something changed for Abeer the moment she told him how hurt she was by the fact that he left... and the night she had the cough. Its like all of a sudden he is seeing the vulnerable Meher behind the facade of the impervious businesswoman. It was that same vulnerability that made him fall for her all those years ago. He wants to be her hero and it irks him that she is not letting him. It makes him upset to hear that he doesn't have a right to act like her husband. I think in the process of trying to get her to reveal her feelings, he will finally start accepting that his own have never changed.

Meher, on the other hand, will be a really tough cookie to crack. More than anyone else she knows how easy it is to fall for Abeer's charms. So she has steeled herself completely. I mean most people would be at least a little appreciative that he made dahl for her, that he got her cough syrup etc. But she doesn't want to need him at all because she knows once she gives an inch he will take a mile and her walls will all crumble.

I think even if Meher can admit to herself that she still loves him, it wouldn't change a thing on her end because her hurt is so deep. There would have to be some real change, or revelation that it would be worth taking that risk again with Abeer.



Beautiful post, Malika, you expressed it all perfectly.


Meher has always been the practical and contemplative type, while Abeer is the impetuous one. She always holds herself to be impervious to everything around her, probably as a defense mechanism to avoid being hurt.


Abeer on the other hand is like a child, he vents his frustration in a fit of rage and forgets it, and wants things back to the status quo immediately. Which is not possible for Meher at all.


I think that this visit to Meher's house has brought things into perspective for Abeer. He sees that somehow, Meher is not as unaffected as she portrays herself to be.


Bua's barbs at Meher in particular wounded him. He didn't like to see Meher being blamed for being human and giving in to her feelings. It brought out the protective instinct in him. As far as he is concerned, she might not have been the perfect wife, but she was the perfect daughter. So he HAD to provide a rebuttal and ended up reading her diary on national TV, which led to another emotional mess🥱 Again, her kidnapping by the goons and her response that he was complicit in making the divorce happen by abandoning her in the middle of the night, showed her vulnerability to him.


The way his mind thinks- I think he has not yet accepted the divorce whole-heartedly, while Meher has swallowed it like a bitter pill. I think he might be even willing to overlook her taking the alimony, and will do whatever it takes to get her back. In his mind, she is his wife, and is entitled to his concern and protection, which Meher vehemently denies. Yesterday's episode confirmed that- the question about whether their separation was a mistake.
Edited by -Amri- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Firstly thank you for making this topic. This forum needs a platform for more serious analysis, and your post prove to be one. Nice analysis of the whole episode.
Edited by -enchanted- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Amri: Thanks for liking my analyses so much! The feeling is mutual for sure 😃


I do feel sympathy for Abeer, and see that he really just wants to be proven wrong about Meher being a gold-digger, especially now that he has caught a glimpse of her vulnerable side, but what still kind of irks me is that he wants to put all the onus of proving him wrong on her. In short, he wants her to come out with her feelings without giving her a shred of real evidence that he feels the same way. Even the thing about their split being a mistake was said in a mocking tone, in the context of everything he wants Meher to say when she realizes what a big mistake she made. He is still not willing to face his feelings or think about the mistakes he may have made, and that is the key. So the way I see it, his vengeance hasn't gone anywhere. It's just been softened because he has caught glimpses of Meher's concern... signs that she will "surrender" to her feelings for him, which is still what his ego wants.


It's only a matter of time before Meher's tolerance level is crossed (probably with this whole Tunnu business) and she lashes back at him about not needing him or his money. I guarantee he will be back to square one in the vengeance department! That is essentially what bothers me, that he wants Meher to "surrender," and admit that she was wrong to leave him and that she can't live without him... and when she does he will lift his arms SRK style and she will come running towards him for a tearful embrace. Then they can live happily ever after without addressing any real issues! 🤔 Meher is rightly resisting this push from his side and in her resistance, demanding more from him. If he was honest with himself about his intentions for prolonging his stay at Meher's house, that is, wanting to spend more time with Meher and craving her attention, then I would absolutely forgive the deception and wholeheartedly enjoy his adorable dramebaazi, but the time has passed when such impulsive acts would actually constitute initiative and progress in their relationship; they have been there, done that and it obviously didn't work out in the long run.


@malikakas: You absolutely hit the nail on the head! Abeer doesn't naturally introspect; he acts on impulse and much of what makes him endearing is the innocence with which he goes through life, doing whatever his heart desires. Meher is the opposite, often concealing her true feelings from people who should know about them so she won't be vulnerable or hurt others. But what is becoming clearer and clearer as the story goes on is that both of them need to come out of their respective comfort zones more in order for things to be different for them this time around. Abeer needs to introspect and take a moment to wonder why Meher might be refusing to reveal her feelings for him... he probably knows the answer deep down. And Meher needs to share with Abeer whatever she is hiding about the 2.5 crores, even if it would hurt either him or her (I have a feeling it's something that would crush Abeer). Until we see these developments, they will only be retracing old, worn steps in their relationship, both happy and painful.

Edited by Samanalyse - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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^ I have nothing to add, you said it all.

Fabulous post:)

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