12th July- Baji's talent of singing!!!

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Siriusly Serious

@Quantum-Dot

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+ 16

Posted: 8 years ago

I was absolutely laughing while watching some parts of the episode today. One, Baji finally learned singing, credits goes to Mastani and her awesome singing for which Baji got totally bowled over in their first meeting and even dreamed of having a boy with that lady!!! Not only that, Baji also sung two to three lines and papa Balaji got impressed. Oh wow, just so wonderful storyline, kudos to the scriptwriters who have been hired to write such a great piece and replaced those writers who had written such ordinary stuffs for the 100 episodes!!!
Jokes apart, I loved those ordinary stuffs which included political and fun events which were actually fun to watch. Frankly speaking I am completely convinced today that its no way the same PB and same characters which I used to adore so much. Though mon and tues episodes were good, but its going off-track again. Baji's dream of holding a boy (which most probably of Mastani's) while hearing the music singing by Mastani was absolutely hilarious and completely made no sense to me... its not the same Baji whom I loved so much. And really, I miss my little cute Bhiu so much that this girl is no match to her and Radhabai- oh god, this woman is not the same one anymore as pointed out by Bhiu, I guess that's why Anuja had been replaced post leap. I loved the line when Bhiu said where 'tu' has been replaced by 'aap', how the sambandh has become hollow can be clearly visible. Only one character and actor too which I am loving post leap is of Chimna. Chimna-Panth conversation is becoming my favorite one nowadays, only Chimna can answer so intelligently to Panth's fake allegations.
And precap is so worse, Baji is behaving with Kashi as they are newly married and ignoring her so worsely. Cuz this Baji is yet to fall in love in terms of Gotya.

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 8 years ago

You are so right, this feels like a different serial not our PB. Granted apart from Balaji all other actors are new to us, BUT the characters are our old beloved. Still they feel unknown.

Now it is only US VIEWERS who are meeting them after few years, but Kashi and Baji would have spent years together and she doesn't even know his favorite sweet?!!

I so missed little Bhiu today, gosh she was so so adorable. It was bit sad to see Bhiu this way.

Radhabai has issues with Balaji but surely not her entire family? She only seems to care about Kashi. Why should she not show any affection towards Bhiu, even if Balaji betrayed her?! It makes no sense. I would think it would make her more attached to her daughters.

Chimanaji Pant scene was highlight.

This LOVE Jaap is getting ridiculous. Ok so Bajirao will fall in love with Mastani does everyone have to talk about love?

It is ridiculous that Baji Kashi are like strangers, frankly in those days they would have consummated marriage long time ago and be atleast friends if not in love. Have affection if not love. Showing them as almost strangers seems very odd and unnatural.

This is PB we are watching, it is Peshwa Bajirao journey and his warrior his swarajya dream achievements should take priority. I would have thought we will atleast get a voiceover telling about state of Marathas, Mughals, QD and Nasir. Instead cvs are in mad hurry to shove Mastani and LOVE down our throats!

What should be part of story might become irritating if given this much prominence.

Mastani totally boring.

Edited by MaddyO - 8 years ago

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harshal

@harshu27

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Posted: 8 years ago

frankly speaking was in no mood to gv updte fr d boring epi...😆nd 2dy it was like sone pe suhaga fr me since my net was troubling me a lot...😆wt a boring epi... m not liking ny of d new actrs... xcept fr kashi and chimaji...radhabai i feel she is xpressionless... wid a strght face she blurts out even if she has to b rigid der should b sum kind of reaction on her face...but alas...i dont knw bt other but i dont think so i will ever b able to connect wid her...🥱and mastani ki entry gosh baji alrdy dreamt abt her and d kid of hers 😲hw silly... d wrters bhang leke were writing i guess.. gosh if dis is d case trust me m going to soon loose intrst in watching and stop completely... cant tke dis devdas types luv jaap gosh🥱

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

What exactly is Radhabai's problem with Balaji ? Does he have another wife or what? The scene in the episode where she talks of special pati patni moments and Balaji and Baji leaving for war looked truncated!

If indeed Balaji confessed to an affair, Radhabai's change over is completely understandable. She is left only with position in life and she upholds that. She has seen the man she so firmly trusted change and sees everyone as capable of changing. She is sometimes soft only to Kashi as she sees her earlier self in her.

And what again is Baji 's problem with Kashi . He has seen her stand for truth against her own family and was no more the ladakoo little girl he didn't like. Then why such willful aloofness from her!

The actress playing Kashi has such childishness and longing about her that I am already beginning to see Mastani as an intruder. And if Baji is going to be indifferent to Kashi even he will lose appeal. It is one thing to fall in love helplessly even against his principles and resolve and duty to his wife. But another to ignore the poor girl as though she was an unwanted guest in his life, AFTER using her father's wealth to establish a rule of which he was a Peshwa ' s son.

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@old_charm

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Posted: 8 years ago

exactly , don't know whats wrong with the writers...😡 this way they'll seriously spoil all that they achieved in last 100 episodes .

already so many major political events are being skipped which were interesting & would have been some prime parts .

its recognizable now that radhabai has got betrayed in life . despite of being such a devoted wife , in all the struggles of life she always stood by her husband , also she gave good education to her children & gave good upbringing to them .

i think we were so used to that old radhabai who had so much warmth in her that suddenly this one does not strike a chord with us . since they had to make radhabai this way so they changed the actor , anuja too mentioned she was signed to play radhabai till leap only & makers had this thing in mind from the start .

am really disappointed with the storyline , mastani was really not needed now .

by every episode they are rising that yearning in kashibai , only to break her heart & hurt her sentiments miserably .

& bajji the way he is being showed now , i don't think think he would ever be liked by the audience...😆

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Hira233

@Hira233

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Posted: 8 years ago

does anybody know what song does baji sings???????

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daenerysnow

@daenerysnow

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Posted: 8 years ago

I actually liked the scene where Baji leaves the dark and drifts into a seemingly serene temple to have a lie down. He looked rather endearing lying there with closed eyes.
I think his dream pertains to the romantic idea of family life and the reason the identity of the woman in there is left ambiguous speaks to his own mentality, he doesn't know how to approach this complexity, what it means to have a wife/soulmate/partner, however its interesting he fantasises about this as it indicates that he is ultimately drawn to the idea and its interesting he sees the childs image and not the woman. Perhaps it connects to his own familiarity of family, of the father and son bonding so its something he can relate too.

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Shivani Priyam Kumar

@Meself

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Posted: 8 years ago

The show unfortunately is turning into a colossal disappointment of sorts. Weren't these the people who said they want to focus on Bajirao's journey from a young boy to the man with impeccable military dash so where is it? The way this particular is progressing is so anti-climactic from where it started.

While other instances I may overlook giving them a benefit of doubt, how is it that they are unable to portray Mastani on whom they seem to be focussing so much? The folktale that they are making use of had a 9/10 year old Marano. It was some 8 years after this particular meeting that she met Bajirao in Bundelkhand. Meanwhile he was coronated as Peshwa and Nana Saheb was already born. And it was laughable to see Roohani Bai fussing over her daughter the way the series showed. Yes Mastani was an illegitimate child but she was Kakaju's favourite. She was battle trained and was equally good with politics and administration. People did talk behind her back of her dubious origin but none dared to say anything to her in the open. She was a loved child, her brothers and Kakaju adored her. So the whole fiasco of her crying over her existence is something beyond me. Also Meghna is absolutely unimpressive. At least in Deepika we had a gorgeous and gracious Mastani if not politically correct. This one is hardly any.

Next, why are they painting Kashibai as some 18th century Charulata? She had a healthy relationship with her husband and was his best friend too. I agree that Kashi and Baji are introduced to us viewers, not that they were strangers to each other. They are closely following the movie arc showing Kashi as a torn and abandoned woman and it looks pathetic. I was not a fan of movie's Kashibai for the sole reason seems like the very thing will be repeated here.

Radhabai's indifference is something I wanted to see. She was a power hungry woman unlike what the series showed her to be intially. But her anger and bowled hatered against Balaji feels as though they are going to introduce Bhikaji soon, the illegitimate son of Balaji with an upastri. If indeed they are going to do that then it will explain the future internal politics and a rift of sorts between Chimmaji and Baji.

Baji's dream of a happy family wasn't wrong for every war hardened man eventually runs to the peaceful offering of the family but it surely was out of context. For a man who is in the euphoria of his victory why would he suddenly long for a romantic notion? Like why?

Also please research about Pranamis. They offered Sajda to Krishna, recited both Gita and Quran and believed in humanity over ritualistic practices. But rest assured none of them gave monologues over love and its infinite capacity of so and so. And if you can please change Mastani. She was a proud Rajputni. Meghna hardly conveys that.

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Siriusly Serious

@Quantum-Dot

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO
You are so right, this feels like a different serial not our PB. Granted apart from Balaji all other actors are new to us, BUT the characters are our old beloved. Still they feel unknown.

Now it is only US VIEWERS who are meeting them after few years, but Kashi and Baji would have spent years together and she doesn't even know his favorite sweet?!!

I so missed little Bhiu today, gosh she was so so adorable. It was bit sad to see Bhiu this way.

Radhabai has issues with Balaji but surely not her entire family? She only seems to care about Kashi. Why should she not show any affection towards Bhiu, even if Balaji betrayed her?! It makes no sense. I would think it would make her more attached to her daughters.

Chimanaji Pant scene was highlight.

This LOVE Jaap is getting ridiculous. Ok so Bajirao will fall in love with Mastani does everyone have to talk about love?

It is ridiculous that Baji Kashi are like strangers, frankly in those days they would have consummated marriage long time ago and be atleast friends if not in love. Have affection if not love. Showing them as almost strangers seems very odd and unnatural.

This is PB we are watching, it is Peshwa Bajirao journey and his warrior his swarajya dream achievements should take priority. I would have thought we will atleast get a voiceover telling about state of Marathas, Mughals, QD and Nasir. Instead cvs are in mad hurry to shove Mastani and LOVE down our throats!

What should be part of story might become irritating if given this much prominence.

Mastani totally boring.

I completely agree with your each and every words. Exactly, if Radhabai has issues with Balaji and maybe he betrayed her(can't believe that could've happen, specially after what've shown for the 100 episodes where both are so respectful towards each other and their wonderful chemistry, ahh...), then why her cold behavior with others specially with her children. I simply can't connect with these old characters, they are simply looking new to me with the new faces. I can't believe that Radhabai can be changed like this way whatever maybe the incident behind it they may say, we couldn't forget that she was the one who was the first official guru of Baji who even staked her life to make Baji overcome his fears, such a fearless, loving and caring lady she was. Such a bad time she had faced with Chimna and Bhiu when they were tagged as Deshdrohis and they had no food in their house, even that couldn't make her behave like this afterwards. And whom I miss most alongwith Anuja's Radhabai is little Bhiu. Little Bhiu is irreplaceable, she is born talented. And Baji is not at home for one year, but still during all these years Baji and Kashi didn't get any time knowing each other, I can't believe it...They hadn't befriended each other during all these years!!! This love jaap is getting on my nerves. Even living with someone for so long make the other knowing what they like or not.

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kahiliginger

@kahiliginger

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Matani being Chhatrasal's lovechild is a legend. Sources stating this have no historical veracity.

The records about the origin of the Nawabs of Banda simply hint at Bajirao being presented a Qubool Surat (beautiful) woman after having assisted Chhatrasal against an attack by Bangash. Had Mastani been Chhatrasal's daughter why would she refer to him as Kakaju (paternal uncle)? The word Kakaju was an affectionate term used in correspondence between Bajirao and Chhatrasal's sons because Chhatrasal had insisted on an agnatic relationship with Rau for political reasons- to ensure continuing Maratha protection for his borders. Chhatrasal had also established such agnatic relations with other important leaders for the same reason.

Bajirao negotiated a tribute, including a part of Chatrasal's kingdom to compensate the Maratha king Shahu for military expenses and the cost of providing security to Bundelkhand. This was a standard practice but was mistaken for Mastani's dowry. In fact the money went to Shahu's treasury, not to Bajirao.

In novels about Mastani writers refer to her as royal born and being pampered by Chhatrasal's sons.There is no historical document supporting this. If Mastani was a Rajput king's daughter she would have been married off at age 8-9 before she obtained puberty, put in purdah and would never be trained to sing and dance like a professional entertainer. There are clear references to Mastani performing on occasions of Janmashtami and Ganesh festival in Shaniwarwada in the Peshwa Daftar, and she is referred to as Rau's khasgi kalavantin (privately maintained dancing girl). Anyone with knowledge of Maratha history knows this much. Had she been a Rajput princess she would never come out of Purdah and perform. Dancing was not a Pranami devotional practice.

Had Mastani been a Rajputni of the Pranami sect why was Shamsher brought up Muslim?

In 1729 when Bajirao defended Bundelkhand he was 29 years old. Chhatrasal was nearly 80 and Mastani was about 16. Thus when she was born Chhatrasal would be 65-66 years old.

Though Mastani had a place in Bajirao's heart he only built her a separate apartment in order to elevate her status after she bore him a son. The Peshwa family did not approve but gave tacit agreement to the arrangement. Differences flared up only after Bajirao took to drinking and eating meat when in Mastani's company, turning away from Kashi and her kids. Had he continued to maintain relations with both women and controlled his drinking the story would have been different. It was not wrong for his mother and brother to try and restrain him from his self-defeating habit.

Radhabai being ambitious is consistent with the rise of her husband from a mere salt works revenue collector to the Peshwa of the Maratha Empire. She brought up her children single handedly and mentored her sons and grandson Nana, the next Peshwa after Bajirao. Do not belittle her by calling her a power hungry woman, her authority was charismatic, not position-related.

Edited by kahiliginger - 8 years ago

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