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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
Since you fear for any child under my protection and vicinity would it not be prudent (and ethically binding 😆) for you to report me. 😛

Since it is becoming evident that some traces of neanderthal-esque level of "debate" is being shown, I'll try and simplify the complexity -

Person A is against any form of child marriage

Person B says child marriage is okay if it's cute and friendly. When legal age (21 for male, 18 for female) is attained, then the romance/intimacy part can enter the equation.

And this is not circa 1940s. How much clarity does one need?

I won't even bring Person C (who is okay with child marriage full flegedly) in this coz thankfully I have not observed that in IF yet.

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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Vishnu21

Since you fear for any child under my protection and vicinity would it not be prudent (and ethically binding 😆) for you to report me. 😛

And to answer your question, if you give a written confession that you've engaged in legally wrong behavior, I would report you but by the looks of it, you are most probably hiding behind a virtual falsified profile.

Potential criminals roam around in society but as long as they keep their urges under control, you can't arrest them, can you? I'd be disgusted at such people but as per law there's nothing much one could do.

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Vishnu

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: ErisedWitch45

And to answer your question, if you give a written confession that you've engaged in legally wrong behavior, I would report you but by the looks of it, you are most probably hiding behind a virtual falsified profile.

Potential criminals roam around in society but as long as they keep their urges under control, you can't arrest them, can you? I'd be disgusted at such people but as per law there's nothing much one could do.

Ma'am I am probably doing you a favour by responding to you since I have some time to kill this Sunday afternoon. I can assure no sane person will bother.

BTW, getting a one up on ego by winning verbal battle in IF will not earn you any brownie points. If you want to make a change, please proceed to BCCC and other legal and regulatory authorities with your complaint.

Thanks, I think I had enough for today. 🤢

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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Vishnu21

Ma'am I am probably doing you a favour by responding to you since I have some time to kill this Sunday afternoon. I can assure no sane person will bother.

BTW, getting a one up on ego by winning verbal battle in IF will not earn you any brownie points. If you want to make a change, please proceed to BCCC and other legal and regulatory authorities with your complaint.

Thanks, I think I had enough for today. 🤢

How conveniently you avoided the imp post (just above this one) because you lack the defense against that truth.

You seem to have an inflated sense of self-worth if you think that you're doing a "favor" by responding. This is a forum for, guess what, discussion. If you don't wish to indulge in discussions which are not pandering to your level of thought - it's okay to accept that. But you were the one who initiated this by quoting me and replying. I was only replying in agreement with a comment by CrystalMoon. So I can see your level of "sanity" (as you proclaim in your post) since you chose to interact with me :)

If someone in favor of cm has anything to add, I would gladly listen because it might expand my horizon. Writing forced funny sentences and adding emoticons hasn't enriched this debate in any way. If you had something concrete, then we would already be moving in an engaging direction.

How quick are you to assume that I am getting an ego boost. Self-projecting now, are we? That may be what drives you, not me. But since I have interacted with you for some moments now, I understand that shallowness of your arguments. Again you assume that I have not complained to BCCC. Your reply is nothing but assumptions on a personal level followed by self-drawn conclusions.

Since you avoided my relevant post, I would copy-paste it :

Originally posted by: ErisedWitch45

Since it is becoming evident that some traces of neanderthal-esque level of "debate" is being shown, I'll try and simplify the complexity -

Person A is against any form of child marriage

Person B says child marriage is okay if it's cute and friendly. When legal age (21 for male, 18 for female) is attained, then the romance/intimacy part can enter the equation.

And this is not circa 1940s. How much clarity does one need?

I won't even bring Person C (who is okay with child marriage full flegedly) in this coz thankfully I have not observed that in IF yet.

Edited by ErisedWitch45 - 8 years ago

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Vishnu

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Posted: 8 years ago

#25

Lest it fails to register in the minds of the audience here, I will just provide one small sample of the effort being expended towards "moving in an engaging direction" !

Wahi is definitely more popular than the cast of this crapfest. PPK team is piggybacking on Wahi and others to promote their show. When PPK makers have no sense of right and wrong, no sense of morality, then they don't even mind negative publicity. As long as it's promoting the show and filling their pockets, these gutter minded people will keep producing filth.

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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
Lest it fails to register in the minds of the audience here, I will just provide one small sample of the effort being expended towards "moving in an engaging direction" !

Kudos to you for again conveniently neglecting my other post (twice now). Crapfest. filth is my take on Child marriage. Gutter minded is for show makers who are showing it as cute. I still stand by it and I am not ashamed of my views. This was my initial reply to Crystal Moon since I agreed with her.

You entered the interaction by directly quoting me, thus involving me but all you did (and are still doing) in your previous reply was - ask me to take care of my (non-existent) kids, ask me to report you to poilce, ask me to take care of my insecurity, ask me to take counselling, all followed by an emoticon. In my various posts. I have given insight on wny I think Child marriage in any form is wrong, but you CHOSE to ignore those post and make juvenile comments.

PS: Highlight 3 words out of my 1 comment when I have also added 6 more comments is trying to sensationalize readers and make them sway to you since you can't stand on your own. I don't need to do that to your replies which were mainly snide comments.

Also, this discussion moved in current direction as per my response to your post. Don't forget the "had" "if" requirements of the "engaging direction" conversation.

Moreover you said that no sane person will reply to me and you've had enough and that was the end for you. Now I am getting mixed signals. Again I'll post the comment that you've ignored for the second time now -

Originally posted by: ErisedWitch45

Since it is becoming evident that some traces of neanderthal-esque level of "debate" is being shown, I'll try and simplify the complexity -

Person A is against any form of child marriage

Person B says child marriage is okay if it's cute and friendly. When legal age (21 for male, 18 for female) is attained, then the romance/intimacy part can enter the equation.

And this is not circa 1940s. How much clarity does one need?

I won't even bring Person C (who is okay with child marriage full flegedly) in this coz thankfully I have not observed that in IF yet.

Edited by ErisedWitch45 - 8 years ago

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Vishnu

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

Some people are downright so intellectually challenged, they think that simply making noise in a forum is "debate" where there is no sign of any moderator who would decide what constitutes a win or what the rules of engagement are, who are left indignant at a mere assumption about them as to why they are so intent on spreading vitriol against something which has passed the legal test and what might be the cause of the lack of decency that they display. They consider themselves to be above any kind of restraint, however, and are simply interested in passing ugly innuendos that makers of a show are "gutter minded" without engaging with them in any manner and that any person watching and supporting a show they do not like are potential child molesters.

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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
Some people are downright so intellectually challenged, they think that simply making noise in a forum is "debate" where there is no sign of any moderator who would decide what constitutes a win or what the rules of engagement are,

When one uses "debate" it doesn't refer to school/college debate competitions. Debate also means discussion with opposing views. A competition needs a moderator, this is a discussion, well it was supposed to be till you replied, which were also "suggestions" for me.

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
who are left indignant at a mere assumption about them

I am not indignant at your "mere" assumptions - you must have made more than half a dozen by now, assumptions and suggestions too. I merely find it amusing that you have chosen to ignore my relevant posts (for a third time now) and rather started out a personal vendetta.

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
as to why they are so intent on spreading vitriol against something which has passed the legal test and what might be the cause of the lack of decency that they display. They consider themselves to be above any kind of restraint, however, and are simply interested in passing ugly innuendos that makers of a show are "gutter minded" without engaging with them in any manner and that any person watching and supporting a show they do not like are potential child molesters.

The show makers had a press conference (IF posted a story on it) where their ugly views were reinforced. They were given ample opportunities by people and media alike. The thing is when someone has a power, they have a responsibility too. The showmakers have the power (means, funds, contacts etc) to make a show, then they have a responsibility to at least maintain some decorum of humanity. Hence I have casted doubts on their mentality.

Originally posted by: Vishnu21
that any person watching and supporting a show they do not like are potential child molesters.

Again, why are you trying to rile up others support? All my replies are to you, not to anyone else.

You said in your previous post about ending the discussion, you are sane, doing a favor by replying to me and this was the end, yet you still keep rearing your head. When you yourself don't have faith in your words, how can others take you seriously?

To conclude - When the reply is ad hominem, I believe the tipping of scales can be perceived.

Edited by ErisedWitch45 - 8 years ago

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Vishnu

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

As if the ad hominem was a one way street. Anyway I don't see the "potential child molester" accusation being addressed. Well if I made any outlandish accusation, I apologize, I am sorry. So I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect the favor in return.

I also see a steep climb down from "crapfest" to "ugly" and that I would consider time well spent.

Any engagement which needs to have a conclusion derived requires a decision making authority agreeable to all the stakeholders. That is why the matter was referred to the BCCC which has provided it's opinion. Now it does no good by being a party to engagement and concluding in bold letters by oneself, since the other party could simply say "I don't agree".

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ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 8 years ago

#30

I don't mind opposing views on a subject. It's sometimes interesting to take a peep in other's minds.

I still stand by my views on the show, makers and concept - ugly, crap etc - so there isn't any 'climbdown'. BCCC did change it's time slot and asked to run a scroll against child marriage but that does little when never in the show the problem is shown as a problem. It's simply shown as friendship, cute etc. [another post that I made previously] I wouldn't need to pen down the emotional and/or physical effects or trauma that these kids go through -to educated people, it should be a no brainer.

Regarding accusations, I maintain that my 1st post - reply to Crystal was about the show makers. The replies henceforth were a respond to your posts.