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Posted: 11 years ago
Why am I a sucker for emotional scenes? I cried when Ovi got arrested today. She was raised without a mother for 20 years, lost the man she loved, was USED by the man she loved, stayed away from her parents for another 20 years, and now she'll go to jail for god knows how long? Out of all the character's in her generation, her destiny is the worst. Poor Pia.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ilovepyaar

Why am I a sucker for emotional scenes? I cried when Ovi got arrested today. She was raised without a mother for 20 years, lost the man she loved, was USED by the man she loved, stayed away from her parents for another 20 years, and now she'll go to jail for god knows how long? Out of all the character's in her generation, her destiny is the worst. Poor Pia.


PoorPia ? 😆
Pia doesn't even care
For her, her maushi and DAD are Gods and her mother is a third wheel 🤢
Purvi mata, the eternal devi of sacrifice couldn't sacrifice for her Arjun ? 😆
Couldn't she say , 'Ovi you have already done a lot for us, no more"

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird


PoorPia ? 😆
Pia doesn't even care
For her, her maushi and DAD are Gods and her mother is a third wheel 🤢
Purvi mata, the eternal devi of sacrifice couldn't sacrifice for her Arjun ? 😆
Couldn't she say , 'Ovi you have already done a lot for us, no more"



Yeah I didn't understand why Pia didn't say anything to Ovi. Purvi just hugged her and then let her go? They better work hard to get Ovi out of jail otherwise Purvi's a horrible sister and Arjun's a horrible friend.
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Posted: 11 years ago

And still no accolade for Ovi in the forum😛

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Posted: 11 years ago
I have not seen the episode yet. But if they sent Ovi to jail for the RK murder debacle for which she was not even one zillionth of a point responsible, I really think that is the most sadist thing I have ever heard.

how pathetic can it get?
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Posted: 11 years ago
i dont understand y it is ever expected by us that anyone else's good deeds other than the so-called leads would be acknowledged as anything but some selfishly motivated act. anyways, i found it curious- what did purvi mean by we'll all live together? is her response to ovi's years of sacrifice- her marriage, apparently her children and her family, 'you and i can share arjun'?!? huh! maybe that would be the only solution. archana and manav can have the only ideal man/sadhu in the world shree arjun baba as their only son in law, pari and pia can pick and choose whichever mother suits their mood and baba arjun can get the double care he deserves for his 20 years of kathor tapasya. ovi and purvi can finally be bosom sisters and exchange stories of struggle 'sex and the city' style.
apparently arjun and purvi are to exit to australia for arjun's treatment...so ovi will probs just chill in jail basking in the light of her mahanta and be giddy about having achieved moksh by diligently serving her parameshwar pati (her pati is not parameshwar but rather the parameshwar is her pati, at least in her mind). pia, following in her godly father's footsteps will take sanyas to contemplate her existence in a luxurious house, in solitude for 20 years. pari will probs b ahana and play tandav in ankita and naren's life or, and this is my ardent hope, her life will be awesome and once free from her non-sensical family, she'll find genuine happiness in her life- both professionally and personally. her mother, her stepmother, her sister, her father and especially her grandparents can only lead people to hell on earth.

i had genuine love for ovi but today even thats gone. she also chose her love for a man over staying with her clearly messed up child who needs help. arjun is not more important than their children. non of these mothers seem to understand that. i still love shruti and hope she does something much better next.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Teju, I too am very disappointed with the turn ( I saw a clip on YouTube, still have to see the episode). But I interpret Ovi's reaction slightly differently, especially following Pia's statements yesterday.

I think Ovi's decision of taking the blame derives from a deep sense of guilt that she has been made to feel for years. She has passed it on to her daughter too.

It is a story of a really really sad heart. It brings tears to my eyes to think of how this woman has been made to feel since she was an infant. Taken ten thousand miles away from her mother when still a toddler, she never got to experience the warmth of mother's hug for 18 years. (And while I do see Archana as being at fault to a degree, I also see how she could be feeling terribly guilty about Soham, and totally manipulated by Savita. I really don't understand why the CVs have redeemed Savita.). The only real warmth Ovi got growing up was from her father and her buddy Arjun. who was also growing up without a mother. Teju had a different coping mechanism with which Ovi could hardly relate. She was very girly. Teju, of course, remained a major support for more delicate Ovi (that is why Barbie Doll). But confusion and anger, hidden under a glamorous exterior and snobbish behavior continued simmering in a young heart.

Then her childhood friend, after having given her the word that he would marry her, declared that she was not worthy of his love; it was someone else. And that someone else was none other than the daughter of the woman who had (at least in Ovi's experience) never visited her even though being her mother. How is any 19 year old supposed to feel confronted with this? Granted the deal offer was unethical and stupid, she continued to feel unwanted and worthless in her marriage. Her drinking and screaming were surely problems; but they were also symptoms of a crying heart. She changed with care and support from Onir. Yet lo and behold, her happiness was only momentary. Once again, the child she loved so much also had only been given to her in donation, out of pity. That broke her.

Still she gathered herself and moved away, for herself and for others. She decided to raise her child alone. What was wrong with it, if she wanted to find herself and her worth through that child? But the expectations of old time morality struck again - how could you hide etc? And one more time, she was considered the culprit who broke the marriage of a loving couple. Her own parents did not even care to learn her story (how difficult could it have been for them to track Arjun?). They just presumed she was wrong and guilty. What a horrifying sense of rejection from all sides! What option did she have but to hide herself?

Living alone with a child in a foreign country with all the negative messages she had gotten all her life, what other feeling but guilt could she have harbored? she kept saying she was a bad daughter and sister and whatever to Arjun in the last track. Along with admission of mistake, I thought it was also a reflection of her deep anguish. It was clear in yesterday's episode that she has transferred it also to her daughter. And even when she was trying so hard to help her friend and father of her child, she hardly heard a single word of appreciation. It was reinforcement of the message of her worthlessness. Her last act today (in the clip) was heart wrenching, really really sad.

Ovi's character reminds me of Tess in Tess of d'Uberville by Thomas Hardy. Even though with different backgrounds, they have strong parallel in their sad and dejected lives.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: muse10

Teju, I too am very disappointed with the turn ( I saw a clip on YouTube, still have to see the episode). But I interpret Ovi's reaction slightly differently, especially following Pia's statements yesterday.


I think Ovi's decision of taking the blame derives from a deep sense of guilt that she has been made to feel for years. She has passed it on to her daughter too.

It is a story of a really really sad heart. It brings tears to my eyes to think of how this woman has been made to feel since she was an infant. Taken ten thousand miles away from her mother when still a toddler, she never got to experience the warmth of mother's hug for 18 years. (And while I do see Archana as being at fault to a degree, I also see how she could be feeling terribly guilty about Soham, and totally manipulated by Savita. I really don't understand why the CVs have redeemed Savita.). The only real warmth Ovi got growing up was from her father and her buddy Arjun. who was also growing up without a mother. Teju had a different coping mechanism with which Ovi could hardly relate. She was very girly. Teju, of course, remained a major support for more delicate Ovi (that is why Barbie Doll). But confusion and anger, hidden under a glamorous exterior and snobbish behavior continued simmering in a young heart.

Then her childhood friend, after having given her the word that he would marry her, declared that she was not worthy of his love; it was someone else. And that someone else was none other than the daughter of the woman who had (at least in Ovi's experience) never visited her even though being her mother. How is any 19 year old supposed to feel confronted with this? Granted the deal offer was unethical and stupid, she continued to feel unwanted and worthless in her marriage. Her drinking and screaming were surely problems; but they were also symptoms of a crying heart. She changed with care and support from Onir. Yet lo and behold, her happiness was only momentary. Once again, the child she loved so much also had only been given to her in donation, out of pity. That broke her.

Still she gathered herself and moved away, for herself and for others. She decided to raise her child alone. What was wrong with it, if she wanted to find herself and her worth through that child? But the expectations of old time morality struck again - how could you hide etc? And one more time, she was considered the culprit who broke the marriage of a loving couple. Her own parents did not even care to learn her story (how difficult could it have been for them to track Arjun?). They just presumed she was wrong and guilty. What a horrifying sense of rejection from all sides! What option did she have but to hide herself?

Living alone with a child in a foreign country with all the negative messages she had gotten all her life, what other feeling but guilt could she have harbored? she kept saying she was a bad daughter and sister and whatever to Arjun in the last track. Along with admission of mistake, I thought it was also a reflection of her deep anguish. It was clear in yesterday's episode that she has transferred it also to her daughter. And even when she was trying so hard to help her friend and father of her child, she hardly heard a single word of appreciation. It was reinforcement of the message of her worthlessness. Her last act today (in the clip) was heart wrenching, really really sad.

Ovi's character reminds me of Tess in Tess of d'Uberville by Thomas Hardy. Even though with different backgrounds, they have strong parallel in their sad and dejected lives.

muse i understand ovi. trust me i was her. my mother and father throughout my childhood were more involved with each other and each others shortcomings than me. i grew up in boarding schools. saw much more of my dad than aai. the only stability in my life were aaji and azuba. my husband wanted another woman over me in the beginning of our marriage. i felt inadequate all the time. but there comes a point in every person's life where you have to value yourself. thats the only way others will value you. when noone chooses you, you have to choose yourself, especially when you have the responsibility of a child on your shoulders. the moment i found out i was pregnant, that feeling that your literally the life force of this person inside you changes things. all feelings of inadequacies have to be set aside. you can't have the selfish luxury of thinking about your inadequacies and moping. all you can think about is giving the best to your child, no matter how inadequate you may feel. and i don't believe for a second that ovi is not as strong as me. she raised a child alone in an unknown place without any support in the world. thats unequivocal strength. if any person denies that then I'm sorry for their current and future children. its simply not a matter of whether you like ovi or not. she fought the whole world for this child. then y did suddenly arjun or even purvi take preference over that child? under whose guardianship is she leaving pia? purvi who condemned the childs birth as the end of her life or arjun who didn't look back even once at her? you don't have the luxury of self pity as a single mother. you most certainly don't have the luxury of sacrificing for anyone but your child.

i have said it before that its beyond a doubt that ovi loves arjun. again at the risk of getting jootis- much more so than purvi ever did. you can argue that from any angle but the truth will remain the same. purvi has sacrificed arjun at every turn whereas ovi has sacrificed for arjun at every turn. she's always simply wanted him to be happy with whatever he did. even when she proposed that deal, she genuinely believed arjun was subha ka bhoola who'd return home to her, she gave up her career and decided to become a mother because the child would make him happy- instead he spent every waking moment making her miserable, she became the simple stay at home wife/mother he wanted for his happiness, she gave up pari and him for his happiness, she left her family for his happiness. when you make a sacrifice for the person you love, there is no expectation of praise. thats what made ovi's love special. contrary to most other love in pr, it was unconditional. i think chalking what ovi did today to pure guilty conscience borne of feelings of inadequacies, would be underestimating the sheer depth of her love for this man, however undeserving. but yes, as a parent unfortunately even that love needs to take a backseat and she couldn't rise above self indulgent love for arjun to do right by her child. its pretty much the same as purvi not being able to rise above her self indulgent hatred of arjun to ensure her child had a relationship with her father. i think for the first time i saw a flicker of realization in arjun's eyes of how much ovi loved him and that he should be the one feeling inadequate not her. but I'm sure that'll disappear along with his seemingly mild headache.
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Posted: 11 years ago

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muse i understand ovi. trust me i was her. my mother and father throughout my childhood were more involved with each other and each others shortcomings than me. i grew up in boarding schools. saw much more of my dad than aai. the only stability in my life were aaji and azuba. my husband wanted another woman over me in the beginning of our marriage. i felt inadequate all the time. but there comes a point in every person's life where you have to value yourself. thats the only way others will value you. when noone chooses you, you have to choose yourself, especially when you have the responsibility of a child on your shoulders. the moment i found out i was pregnant, that feeling that your literally the life force of this person inside you changes things. all feelings of inadequacies have to be set aside. you can't have the selfish luxury of thinking about your inadequacies and moping. all you can think about is giving the best to your child, no matter how inadequate you may feel. and i don't believe for a second that ovi is not as strong as me. she raised a child alone in an unknown place without any support in the world. thats unequivocal strength. if any person denies that then I'm sorry for their current and future children. its simply not a matter of whether you like ovi or not. she fought the whole world for this child. then y did suddenly arjun or even purvi take preference over that child? under whose guardianship is she leaving pia? purvi who condemned the childs birth as the end of her life or arjun who didn't look back even once at her? you don't have the luxury of self pity as a single mother. you most certainly don't have the luxury of sacrificing for anyone but your child.

i have said it before that its beyond a doubt that ovi loves arjun. again at the risk of getting jootis- much more so than purvi ever did. you can argue that from any angle but the truth will remain the same. purvi has sacrificed arjun at every turn whereas ovi has sacrificed for arjun at every turn. she's always simply wanted him to be happy with whatever he did. even when she proposed that deal, she genuinely believed arjun was subha ka bhoola who'd return home to her, she gave up her career and decided to become a mother because the child would make him happy- instead he spent every waking moment making her miserable, she became the simple stay at home wife/mother he wanted for his happiness, she gave up pari and him for his happiness, she left her family for his happiness. when you make a sacrifice for the person you love, there is no expectation of praise. thats what made ovi's love special. contrary to most other love in pr, it was unconditional. i think chalking what ovi did today to pure guilty conscience borne of feelings of inadequacies, would be underestimating the sheer depth of her love for this man, however undeserving. but yes, as a parent unfortunately even that love needs to take a backseat and she couldn't rise above self indulgent love for arjun to do right by her child. its pretty much the same as purvi not being able to rise above her self indulgent hatred of arjun to ensure her child had a relationship with her father. i think for the first time i saw a flicker of realization in arjun's eyes of how much ovi loved him and that he should be the one feeling inadequate not her. but I'm sure that'll disappear along with his seemingly mild headache.


Teju, thank you for your beautiful post.

I agree with every word you have written, especially the part about how a mother has to put even her own feelings of inadequacies aside for the sake of the child. I salute you for your strength and understanding. I guess since I am not a mother, I do not understand all aspects of motherhood.

I actually did not think that what Ovi did was entirely out of a sense of guilt. No. Of course, love for Arjun and her own ability to let go for others 9as she has done before) are major parts of it. But I thought that she had been made to feel guilty without understanding her for her whole life (Pia's dialogs the previous day were especially very sad and they led me to think more about Ovi's own feeling of inadequacy.). This was her moment of strength, I thought, when she proved everyone who had not appreciated her wrong. Sad but showing strength. But it really did not occur to me how Pia had also been abandoned, forgotten or neglected by others. There you are completely right. I don't know about Pia's future now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
What did Ovi say to Pia? And what's wrong with the CVs? Did they seriously not bring up self defense once? How stupid. I have no hopes for Arjun and Purvi trying to get Ovi out, they'll probably flee to Australia or run off somewhere leaving Ovi to rot in jail. I have hopes that ArMaan will do something for their daughter at least now. I hope that ArMaan along with Pia (and maybe even Pari) get her out of there.

If Asha-Rithvik are quitting does that mean ArVi is going to disappear from the storyline and just be shown to us as united? If there were replacements, we would have probably had an article about it by now right? So I guess Pari won't get a proper closure with Arjun either. Hope she gets a closure with Ovi now and realizes her aunt didn't do anything to deserve her hatred. Oh how I wish she knew that her mother handed her over to her aunt and she fed on her aunts breast milk for the first two months of her life. I wonder how she'd react then.

I had no hopes with the rape court case. It was obvious they'd take advantage of the fact that Ankita married Naren for money. Ankita's challenge though (by the way, what's with all these Ekta heroines and their challenges) foreshadows that they'll obviously win the case.

I'm predicting that Manav and Archana will come to India to get Ovi out of jail and they'll hear about Soham in the process too, since they have to get those tracks sorted out. They might as well kill two birds with one stone, and then ArMaan could disappear just like ArVi. If ArMaan bring Pari along, which is a possibility, they could open up the Pari being Ahaana track as well, because they'll need something to keep viewers after this rape track. If they do bring back Pari, they might as well just drag the whole family along and they can all fit into that tiny chawl again with all of Soham's kids since it's the same chawl. Then ArMaan could say they're visiting ArVi, and they'll never be seen again.
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