Ovi is so fake:Mod note pg17&22 - Page 15

Originally posted by: ambolove

We are forgetting here that all characters of pavitra rishta are flawed and if we look at all their flaws then none are worthy of praise.

Let's see what Ovi's true intentions are before coming to the conclusion that she is fake. Just the same as how I'd also like to see if Purvi will investigate and trust Arjun this time before coming to the conclusion that her words are fake.

Just because we can't see the good points, doesn't mean they aren't there. A character may have many hidden qualities that are good but that we may not like.

For example, Purvi lived for her mother. That's not a bad thing, it's a good thing that at the very least one rishta in her life worked and is more important than any other rishta in her life.

Ovi lived for Arjun and to this day still does, why should that be a bad thing? As long as she keeps her distance.

If all characters were perfection, wouldn't life be miserable? Wouldn't this show be totally dull? Watching a perfect show, with perfect characters and no entertainment, just perfect, predictable things happening throughout every episode?

That would be boring.

This was on Wikipedia:

Weaknesses
Weaknesses in a character, like vices, imperfections or flaws, make him or her appear more human-like causing the audience to identify him/her self with that specific character.This is a good characterization for a character in most fiction and non-fiction stories.Weakness also causes a character to be more imperfect like a real human and allows them to make mistakes.[3]

I agree completely with Koolsadhu that what goes around comes around!

As you sow, so do you reap!

It worked in the case of Ovi. She proposed an unethical deal for marrying Arjun and then she made his life miserable. She paid for what she did when her marriage ended. And she accepted that. (This is the reason why many of us like how she has grown as a character.)

My view is that it is now Purvi's turn.

(And I write this as someone who actually likes Purvi. I hope it will be clear by the end of this post. I do not watch the show now; but have closely followed it until Purvi refused to talk about anything else but Archana's look alike to Arjun. While I do not watch the show, I at least know this much - Arjun has some serious illness that could lead to his death. He does not want to Purvi to know. He has invited Ovi from Australia to put up a show of marriage. Ovi has accepted to go along with the scheme, even though she has suggested to Arjun that he should tell the truth. And after 20 years, now Purvi really wants to find out the truth so that she can be reunited with Arjun. I hope that we all agree on this much.)

Why do I think that it is now Purvi's turn? Let us first ask, what is at the root of the current situation?

I believe it is Purvi's too high a self-image. Had she not been so adamant about being right and had actually made an effort to find out the truth even for her daughter's sake, she would have been by Arjun's side all along. There would have been no need for desperate search for the truth now.

Arjun had told one lie regarding an important matter after they had been married for a short time. Why is it such a big deal considering how many lies Purvi herself has told to Arjun also about important matters since the beginning? So, why was she so hurt by his lie that she took her anger to Canada and kept it for 20 years? Could she not have inquired through a friend or even a detective in 20 years? No, of course she would not do that. She simply presumed that she was right and remained adamant about it.

When she talked to Arjun about her mother's look alike, she refused to talk about anything else. Had Ovi come in-between then? Someone can come in-between two people who are together. No one can come in between people who are separated. That is just not possible. And Arjun-Purvi are still separated.

Purvi remained adamant for 20 years about her wrong perception. And the burden of proving her wrong so that she can be reunited with Arjun is with someone else? Why?

And why is it now everyone else's duty to serve the truth to Purvi on a silver platter because all of a sudden she as developed a desire to find the truth? Why is she such a divine like figure that her wish should be everyone else's command?

I am actually with Arjun this time in his firmness in not bowing to Purvi's wish. Even though his reasons remain foolishly sentimental, for the first time, he is not shown running like a puppy to fulfill her demands. And what does all this have to do with Ovi? What would she get any way? One opinion is - "the pleasure of separating Arjun and Purvi." How is that possible? THEY HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FOR 20 YEARS.

Just to refresh the memory, if Ovi had wanted to separate them, she had a perfect opportunity when she had already come to know about Onir's fake wedding and Arjun had also accidentally come to know about it the night previous to his wedding to Purvi. If she had wanted to separate them, she would not have stopped Arjun from telling Purvi. She could also have told him about her own pregnancy and child, which could have been her trump card to separate them. It was her moment of growth.

I think the creatives are just adding more and more tension at the moment as they are prone to so that the scene of revelation of truth can be dramatic. May be even they do not know if they want to turn Ovi negative or not. That is why it was "may" and not "will" in the article about the possibility. That is why I believe there are mixed signals in Ovi's expressions. In my view, if the writers turn Ovi negative again, they will have wasted what they have achieved in the story so far.

As for when the revelation will come, it is entirely Arjun's call in the story context. He is the director of the play put up by him and Ovi and only he can decide when the curtain falls. And we are not shown 24 hours of any character's life. So we simply cannot know for certain until revealed either way why Ovi is behaving the way she is. May be it is Arjun's direction so that Purvi thinks the worst of them.

The track is actually giving time to Purvi for introspection. It is leading to Purvi's moment of growth and it is a good thing. Eventually, the truth would be revealed. Purvi would hopefully grow out of her habit of thinking she is always right and the track would end with an overall positive outcome. A character that grows remains interesting. (Thank you ambolove for making that point so nicely in your post). The one that does not grow remains flat and boring. Purvi is a very charming character. Unless we want her to be an uninteresting frozen image of perfection with no possibility of growth, we can actually be glad for the opportunity for introspection. And how long she should introspect is entirely the director's call both in the story (Arjun) and in the production house. We may feel that she has already grown and there is no need to prolong it; but the director may think otherwise.

Originally posted by: bitasta

When one likes a character, what is there to write about? Lots have been written about her by other like minded people, I have nothing to add to what they have already written.

And I said numerous threads bashing Purvi. Sorry forgot to add, in past--distant past and recent past as well. Numerous threads those were akin to spamming...

I joined the Forum in November 2013. So, I am just a month old here if any one hasn't noticed by now. Hence, I haven't had the chances of spewing the same amount of venom for Ovi- the character. Neither have I come across a character that was interesting enough to write about-- was thinking of writing about Soham once upon a time. But the way his character has been butchered, the interest faded away.

Besides, it's my prerogative what to write and about whom to write. I don't think the Forum has any rule that one has to write a treatise even on the characters one don't like and should refrain from defending the characters one like-- especially when those characters are bashed with distortions, assumptions, extrapolations and non existent story line wallowed in vulgarity.

The day a Purvi hater takes up a challenge and writes about her goodness along with her flaws, I promise, the same day, I will do the same about Ovi too. If one feels Purvi is not a character worth to be written about, that is what I feel about Ovi too.

And the preaching and all are great. But I can also say when it comes to Purvi, "That's just sad, not to be given credit for her strengths and follies even if the latter are so much more than the former. "

Honestly, we get it too. Purvi can never be right.

Besides, I was taking a part in the discussion in the thread so painstakingly retrieved here. That was not a thread about "A Treatise on Fantastic Ovi".

Retrieving one thread and posting it in another thread just to prove one's point , I suppose, is against the IF rule. So who is the hater? Me, who is writing my thoughts on this and other threads or those who would even breach the Forum Rules to prove their points?

No, I don't need the answer.

P.S. I am not reporting. I am happy that one has taken so much of a painstaking effort to point out how another person is not sharing the same thought as theirs. BTW ever heard of three fingers pointing towards oneself when one points a finger towards another?

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Can both set of fan grps take a chill pill and write down your views in a more civilised way .. Dont always expect mods to close down every damn post which might not go as per your wish ...

If a post is against your views , a member has every right to put down the opposite views in a dignified manner without really trying to put down other fan grps or stereotype them in sarcastic tone ..

At the same time the ones who agree with this post , they should b ready to hear the opposite views too rather than expecting all out positive replies only since a forum will always hv different viewpoints which includes both positive and negative ..

It will b better if mmebers of both fan grps learn to co-exist peacefully in one forum espcially when show is coming to an end in few weeks time

PR Dev team

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Ok, this is the last time I will try and explain myself. After this I will consider it's a lost cause. Are arjun and purvi individual characters who have (or at least should have) control over their lives? Are arjun and purvi responsible for their lives or is somebody else (in this case Ovi) living their life for them? You maybe new, but I have been here for a long time and always, always it is Ovi or archana or manav or somebody else but not arjun or purvi blamed for the mess that is their relationship. Do arjun and purvi have some say in their relationship or not? Are they puppets with no grey matter that do whatever somebody says? I understand you are frustrated about them not getting together and don't like Ovi helping arjun. I get that, really I do! Because I hate, absolutely hate it too! Ovi should have just stayed out because I don't think she has the right or the responsibility to fix arjun or purvi or their relationship. Same way, she DOES NOT have the right or the responsibility to fix arjun or purvi or their relationship. Got it? She is an outsider to the relationship, if the characters you love are not together--blame them, not the outsider. Or at the very least, accord some blame to them. Isn't their love for each other stemming from no one but themselves? Is Ovi or anybody else responsible for arjun and purvi loving each other? No, right? Then how come everyone but them is responsible for them not trusting each other and for failing their marriage?

Fine! You blame Ovi for not clearing up things. Agreed, she could have. Maybe she tried, maybe she didn't. We don't know either way. But we know arjun tried a few times to contact purvi--that was mentioned. Where are your posts blaming purvi for not listening to arjun for 20 long years? Now, arjun decides he's going to lie to purvi and enlists Ovi's help. Where are your posts blaming arjun for lying to purvi? Why is Ovi the scapegoat--for everything? Does Ovi owe anything to arjun or purvi? No! Has she taken the thekaa of safeguarding their marriage? No! Is there one post, ONE single post where arjun or purvi are taken to task for failing to work on their marriage? A big fat NO! Everyone wants arjun and purvi to be together, but without either of them doing any work whatsoever. They are just brainless puppets that live whatever life is given to them without doing anything to make it better. Of course, if they really are puppets then we should blame the puppet master. Then, the love story between the puppets is also fake, right?

I have openly derided Ovi for still going out of her way to help arjun, I can show you the more recent posts if you want. I categorically think Ovi is wrong is getting herself into the toxic mess that is arjun and purvi again. Can you find posts where you and your ilk berate arjun and purvi for failing their great love story? Of course, then it will be the creatives who butchered the noble characters.

And btw, the underlined part that you copied from my earlier post was meant for arjun and purvi. Ovi, arjun and purvi are all characters, one much better written than the others I think, but still they are all characters with their own traits and histories. By giving away the blame of everything arjun and purvi do (and hence, the whole of their lives we have seen so far because their lives have always, always been messed up) to someone else, you are essentially giving away their lives. You make them seem like statues that have stuff happening to them while they stand still, not people who are doing stuff that decide the course of their lives one way or another. Give them some credit for their own lives; they are all fleshed out characters, deeply flawed but fleshed out characters nonetheless.

Disclaimer: "You" is a general term, nothing personal.

Originally posted by: soniiyaa

I think the mods are just frustrated at this point with the same WW3 war in every topic thus the use of "damn".