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Posted: 12 years ago
#11
I have a feeling that Ovi is realizing her mistakes. She was feeling guilty in yesterday's episode because she also did the same thing with Arjun.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_arvi

I have a feeling that Ovi is realizing her mistakes. She was feeling guilty in yesterday's episode because she also did the same thing with Arjun.



I think Ovi has too. She has turned over a new leaf and hopefully the storyline will let her remain that way. The girl needs to fall in love with a man that reciprocates whole-heartedly.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25



PS: Totally agree with the BOLD parts above! If the Tulsi Ansh or Mother India scenario is repeated in PR, I will definitely stop watching the show and let it take a leap into Hell or whatever! Indeed Soham doesnt deserve death but jailtime is okay. Armaan are terrible parents! Thats been proved many times before and now once again. They indulge in dramatics and hysteria all the time but fail to deal with their disturbed children in the right way!



Pallavi, me too if they make it any crazier with Archana killing Soham, I will give up PR entirely. To prove what a good mother she is, she will support the same boy that deceived her against her own flesh and blood. She can even kill for the sake of righteousness, she can then be elevated to the heights of Harishchandra and Yudishtra, all for truth and anything for truth, even if maternal love is at stake.

As for Manav, what is that strain of craziness? Is it passed on from his mother? She did blow hot and cold, nice and nasty, is this same instability now passed on to Ovi and also to Soham? Manav's handling of Soham has been atrocious from the get go. It was not the poor boy's fault that he was unpud, gavaar, etc. and was raised by goons. Perhaps Manav has harbored a grudge against Soham because here is someone Archana loves more than Manav himself. Maybe, just maybe, if Soham had been handled properly with love and respect by his dad, he would not have reverted from his Dr. Jekyll to his Mr. Hyde side.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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LOLL! Of course Ovi "made" Arjun marry her. Cuz you know she has some superpowers that can make a grown ass man like Arjun do something he doesn't want. I mean it's not like he has a brain of his own!

And of course Ovi slapping Purvi is the same as Soham shooting his mother, injuring his brother to the brink of death, kidnapping Purvi, holding Sachin/Gauri hostage.

Yep. I totally see how they are the same.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Of course all Ovi's sins are forgiven because shes Princess Ovi, spoiled, Canadian bred, NRI daughter of Manav Deshmukh.
While Soham is the poor, low class, slum raised, kidnapped and rejected offspring who was never accepted by Manav even after his return and rehabilitation!
Position and wealth makes people immune to being questioned or punished, happens everywhere all the time!
Thats why Manav or Archana didnt slap Ovi even once after she blackmailed Purvi and married Arjun, they didnt slap her when she was drinking during pregnancy and behaving atrociously with everyone, including Dr. Onir who was trying to treat her!
Archana slapped Purvi and disowned her after she found out abt Pari. Purvi was adopted, sadak se uthayi gayi girl after all!
But Archana didnt have the guts to slap Ovi or disown her when she found out abt the deal marriage, after all Ovi was Manav's favorite child!
But both Manav and Archana were beating the crap out of Soham when he dared to ask for Gauri's hand! Being a low class, uneducated, ganwaar, how could he ask to marry a doctor? And whose fault was it that he was still an uneducated ganwar? ArMaan shd have slapped themselves! For failing Soham in every way right from his birth!
Even in the hospital when Soham was eavesdropping, Manav was saying, Bishnu attacked MY SON! Sachin is HIS SON, Soham is Bishnu Lala...that has been Manav's mentality from the day Soham was brought home by Archana! Soham has faced rejection and abuse from Manav ever since! Rejected and put down by his own father! That cuts deep into the psyche of any man!

Manav expected the worst from Soham and never gave him a chance to improve his life! Archana also didnt do anything positive for Soham except give lectures abt reform and sanskars.
If they had improved Soham's status in life, with studies and a good job, he would have a better chance of being accepted by Gauri.
After all, why would a doctorni marry an ex-criminal who worked in a grocery store? But if Soham was working in Manav's company and ArMaan brought over his rishta instead of Sachin's, I bet Gauri would have accepted Soham as he would be a respectable son of Deshmukh family and shes hellbent on becoming a bahu of that family!
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Of course all Ovi's sins are forgiven because shes Princess Ovi, spoiled, Canadian bred, NRI daughter of Manav Deshmukh.

While Soham is the poor, low class, slum raised, kidnapped and rejected offspring who was never accepted by Manav even after his return and rehabilitation!
Position and wealth makes people immune to being questioned or punished, happens everywhere all the time!
Thats why Manav or Archana didnt slap Ovi even once after she blackmailed Purvi and married Arjun, they didnt slap her when she was drinking during pregnancy and behaving atrociously with everyone, including Dr. Onir who was trying to treat her!
Archana slapped Purvi and disowned her after she found out abt Pari. Purvi was adopted, sadak se uthayi gayi girl after all!
But Archana didnt have the guts to slap Ovi or disown her when she found out abt the deal marriage, after all Ovi was Manav's favorite child!
But both Manav and Archana were beating the crap out of Soham when he dared to ask for Gauri's hand! Being a low class, uneducated, ganwaar, how could he ask to marry a doctor? And whose fault was it that he was still an uneducated ganwar? ArMaan shd have slapped themselves! For failing Soham in every way right from his birth!
Even in the hospital when Soham was eavesdropping, Manav was saying, Bishnu attacked MY SON! Sachin is HIS SON, Soham is Bishnu Lala...that has been Manav's mentality from the day Soham was brought home by Archana! Soham has faced rejection and abuse from Manav ever since! Rejected and put down by his own father! That cuts deep into the psyche of any man!

Manav expected the worst from Soham and never gave him a chance to improve his life! Archana also didnt do anything positive for Soham except give lectures abt reform and sanskars.
If they had improved Soham's status in life, with studies and a good job, he would have a better chance of being accepted by Gauri.
After all, why would a doctorni marry an ex-criminal who worked in a grocery store? But if Soham was working in Manav's company and ArMaan brought over his rishta instead of Sachin's, I bet Gauri would have accepted Soham as he would be a respectable son of Deshmukh family and shes hellbent on becoming a bahu of that family!


very nice post completely agree with you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#17
Ovi has committed the most gruesome crime ever...she prolonged this Arvi milan🤢...which is unforgivable under any law of the world...UN should pass resolution against her...United States forget Syria and better concentrate on Ovi...Nato forces should be directed against her...use every nuke of the world...just wage war against this evil named Ovi... I mean who the hell is Soham/Bishnu lala he just kidnaps, extort and kills for a living just a petty little gangster...but this Ovi had committed crime against humanity...keeping Arvi away- ram ram ram...iski saza milegi barabar milegi😆...no matter how many - multiple suhaagraats, million dances and uncountable eye-locks, this Arvi have...that doesn't exonerate Ovi from her sins...Dussera is coming so lets burn her effigy...Ravan dwarfs against her...afterall OVI is the ULTIMATE EVIL😡
Edited by hbkforever - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Of course all Ovi's sins are forgiven because shes Princess Ovi, spoiled, Canadian bred, NRI daughter of Manav Deshmukh.

While Soham is the poor, low class, slum raised, kidnapped and rejected offspring who was never accepted by Manav even after his return and rehabilitation!
Position and wealth makes people immune to being questioned or punished, happens everywhere all the time!
Thats why Manav or Archana didnt slap Ovi even once after she blackmailed Purvi and married Arjun, they didnt slap her when she was drinking during pregnancy and behaving atrociously with everyone, including Dr. Onir who was trying to treat her!
Archana slapped Purvi and disowned her after she found out abt Pari. Purvi was adopted, sadak se uthayi gayi girl after all!
But Archana didnt have the guts to slap Ovi or disown her when she found out abt the deal marriage, after all Ovi was Manav's favorite child!
But both Manav and Archana were beating the crap out of Soham when he dared to ask for Gauri's hand! Being a low class, uneducated, ganwaar, how could he ask to marry a doctor? And whose fault was it that he was still an uneducated ganwar? ArMaan shd have slapped themselves! For failing Soham in every way right from his birth!
Even in the hospital when Soham was eavesdropping, Manav was saying, Bishnu attacked MY SON! Sachin is HIS SON, Soham is Bishnu Lala...that has been Manav's mentality from the day Soham was brought home by Archana! Soham has faced rejection and abuse from Manav ever since! Rejected and put down by his own father! That cuts deep into the psyche of any man!

Manav expected the worst from Soham and never gave him a chance to improve his life! Archana also didnt do anything positive for Soham except give lectures abt reform and sanskars.
If they had improved Soham's status in life, with studies and a good job, he would have a better chance of being accepted by Gauri.
After all, why would a doctorni marry an ex-criminal who worked in a grocery store? But if Soham was working in Manav's company and ArMaan brought over his rishta instead of Sachin's, I bet Gauri would have accepted Soham as he would be a respectable son of Deshmukh family and shes hellbent on becoming a bahu of that family!



Completely agree with U Pallavi Di. Every point what U say completely true.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think there are a lot of similarities between Ovi and Soham but they are very different in their own way. Please don't get offended when I say this because I say it with a lot of respect, I always feel like most of you guys bring such lovely arguments but you rarely listen to what the other person is saying. Everything here is about proving a point instead of understanding something. It goes for both Ovi lovers and Ovi haters here.

  • Ovi was obsessive, psychotic, Soham is obsessive, more than psychotic, he is a psychopath.

  • Ovi was naive, foolish and in denial, Soham is naive.

  • Ovi didn't know how to handle Arjun's rejection, Soham didn't know how to handle Gauri's rejection.

  • Ovi's situation was handled carelessly by the people around her, Soham's situation was handled carelessly by the people around her.

While Ovi and Soham have things in common they were still different and I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that Ovi is NRI and educated, and Soham is illiterate.

First difference has to be the fact that Gauri never promised anything to Soham, Gauri never once told him she loved him or anything of that sort. Soham can cry all he wants now but before the rishta talk he also had no idea how she felt. Soham himself wasn't really in love with her or wasn't thinking about marrying her until very recently. Ovi grew up loving Arjun. She was engaged to him. Gauri promised nothing to Soham but Arjun on the other hand did. That is huge difference. Here is the party scene when Arjun calls himself her fiance and says he is going to marry her even before they are actually engaged. Ovi gets so surprised Ovi asks him about what he said and he says "whatever I said is true. I want to marry you, only if you don't mind you know..." A girl is hearing this from the man who is her best friend and also the love of her life. She obviously had huge expectations from him. In the next episode Ovi tells him to return from India soon and he playfully says if he meets a beautiful girl then it might take some time. Ovi playfully says that's fine, I will just hangout with Romel and his friends and Arjun gets serious and says that is not necessary, I will return soon. She says that is like a good BOYFRIEND. They were in a relationship. Soham has no right on Gauri. He is wrong to demand things from her, Ovi had rights on Arjun. Even Arjun expected Ovi to be faithful to him and not be around Romel and those other guys. Gauri did not wrong Soham. Arjun wronged Ovi. Sure he did not mean to and you can cut him slacks for that, but he did wrong her.


Ovi's anger toward Purvi was justified. It wasn't just that the man she loves more than anything all of a sudden loved Purvi, it was more than that. If I found out the guy I loved all my life, the guy I am engaged to is actually having some sort of fling with this girl who is pretending to be my friend, a girl I have been sharing my worries with that concerns the guy, a girl who also happens to be my sister I would be furious at her. You are lying if you say you wouldn't be as well. No matter what the cause was Purvi did lie to her. Soham has no right to be angry at Sachin. Archana brought Gauri to Sachin, Gauri accepted Sachin before Sachin had any type of say in it. Sachin had no idea of Soham's feelings until minutes before Soham attacked him. Ovi did not think Purvi was right for Arjun, Soham knows Gauri fits Sachin better than she fits him.


Even when Ovi believed she was betrayed by Purvi she was not vicious. I know it is a hard thing to see for someone who really hates Ovi but she never wanted to hurt Purvi, or put her in any type of grave danger to get Arjun. She was not Punni. Soham is ready to take Sachin out of this world if it means he can be with Gauri, but even at Ovi's worst moments she never wanted to harm Purvi in such a way. Yes she slapped Purvi a billion times but it all happened when Ovi herself was broken. Ovi's anger toward Purvi is not the same anger Soham has toward Sachin.



Soham demands Gauri, a Gauri that is not his and if he doesn't get her he will destroy everyone on his way to get her. Ovi wanted an Arjun that she believe was hers. She was completely delusional and felt he still loved her. The kangan, standing up for her car drama all led her to believe he loved her. I know she was wrong... Arjun didn't love her and he was not hers but he was engaged to her out of his own will from her perspective. She also did not trust Purvi's love. She begged Archana, she begged Purvi, she begged everyone! When she goes to blackmail Purvi it wasn't even one of those evil demanding types. She is so afraid that Purvi will not say yes and this is her last shot at having happiness. She was planning to kill herself on the night of their wedding because she thought she had failed. This is not because she is rich, and it is not because she is educated that she took a different path than Soham. Punni is not half as rich as Ovi and she is also quite educated, still she acts like she is entitled to everything and finds it unfair when it is taken from her and she tries to get it back. There have been many women in the show who tried to get their way by one type of force or another, look at Savita. Few of them were as vulnerable and as broken as Ovi. I am not saying what Ovi did was right even for a second. She was very wrong but her outlook was different than Soham's. Soham didn't break, he got mean. It is not because he is a man, man break too when they lose their love. Ovi was scorned and she broke.

At times Ovi tried to protect Arjun from Archana and Purvi. She thought they were money hungry. She tried to give him the 10,000 so he wouldn't have to work at the garage for money. I know she was completely wrong and she was absolutely delusional, but she was thinking about him!! She hated how he suffered. Soham on the other hand is trying to take Gauri away from a good life and take her to his Vishnu Lala life. Where is the concern for Gauri here? Ovi completely misunderstood Arjun's love but there was this sincerity there, Soham's love for Gauri has none of that.


The night before the wedding Ovi was planning to kill herself, alone. Ovi took it out on herself, Soham takes it out on others. I think it is unfair to say that these two are the same. They are not. Self harming comes from a broken person, vicious behaviors like Soham's does not.

You don't have to like Ovi. Ovi can be very much in the wrong without being like Soham. There is more than one way to be wrong. She was obsessive and delusional but she was not Soham.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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There may be varying degrees of obsession and delusion but there is a common strain running between brother and sister.

Yes, Arjun did agree to marry Ovi but when Ovi told her woes to to Purvi at archana's behest and insistence that Purvi find the girl Arjun was interested in, Purvi was herself devastated by Arjun's engagement (forced upon him by surprise) and was keeping away from him. Ovi might have believed that Purvi was after Arjun's money, that was fanciful, wishful thinking on her part, same kind of wishful thinking Soham is indulging in now.

Any normal person while being angry at the guy would have thrown him to the wolves and moved on but Ovi leeched on and refused to budge an inch, even married the guy on his wedding day with a triumphant smile on her face. She knew then Arjun didn't care for her yet gloated all through the reception. Same way, Soham is not getting into his thick head that Gauri does not love him.

The degree of response might be more extreme in Soham because of the circumstance of his upbringing but no saying what Ovi could have done if she had the same access to gundagiri. Remember she wished Purvi dead when she was kidnapped and didn't want her dad to help. She threw Purvi out in advanced pregnancy, slapped her in public twice.

Ovi took to drinking to handle her rejection as did Soham. Both drunks, both weak, both deluded, both under the misconception that the person they love has no choice but to love them back. Silly, immature and very abnormal behavior, not the anger but the response to that sense of betrayal and anger is what is wrong.

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