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Ume Salma Kakal

@sunflower52

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: pesi11

when a kid insists that she/he wants to stay away from all the problems for few days , frnds might give them space ...but parents are parents who never leave their children in their worse situations ..they vl forcefully be with them to make them better ..those r the real parents ...

and just bcoz u like arvi u r expecting ppl to ignore wat they feel/see 😛 ..everyone has entitled to their opinions ...😛

You can not force anyone when they are not ready. Ovi is not ready to let go and when she is. She will come and talk with her parents.

Ovi is shown to be a stubborn person and does what she pleases. So in this type case even good parents give up.

Now look who is getting personal and just because I like Arvi does not mean I have not bashed them for their idiotic moves in this triangle.

So I am also entitled to me opinion too 😛 and this my POV. If you disagree fine by me.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: pesi11

when a kid insists that she/he wants to stay away from all the problems for few days , frnds might give them space ...but parents are parents who never leave their children in their worse situations ..they vl forcefully be with them to make them better ..those r the real parents ...

and just bcoz u like arvi u r expecting ppl to ignore wat they feel/see 😛 ..everyone has entitled to their opinions ...😛

Exactly correct. When I was a teenager, I would often lock myself in my room when I was upset or depressed. I would not take calls from friends to go hang out with them. It is my mother who would barge into my room and make me come out and do things. I would get annoyed at that moment and even throw hissyfits, but looking back, it is that intervention that kept me leading a sane stable life. My poor mother had to endure all the negative remarks I would hurl at her, yet she did it adamantly without hesitation. A parent will always be at their child's low moments.

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Ume Salma Kakal

@sunflower52

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: PandorasBox

I'm sorry to hear that. We all go through a bad patch in our lives, some more severely than others. Some people get through it by themselves, others need family + friends.

With Ovi's history of suicide, drinking, and self-harm it is a no brainer that she will need to be "babysat"...any parents would leave what they are doing or divide their resources to ensure their daughter is safe. Let's face it, Desmukhs are filthy rich and can afford to send at least one member of the family. The gesture itself would speak volume. I can say in all honestly that if ever I was in a bad patch of my life and living away from my family, my mother would accompany me for weeks, months, or even years. When one of my relatives had a miscarriage, her mother came to be at her side for months. This is just a miscarriage, not her whole marriage that crumbled.

Manav and Archana doesn't have to talk to Ovi directly about her problems. Archana can go there and distract her by bonding. It would make up for years of missing out on Ovi's growing up. I can't believe their solution is to dump the problem on to her next suitor 🤢 Marriage does not fix that kind of emotional scar. Everyday interaction and seeing how loved one is can do wonders.

What Ovi needs is counselling and should be in a Rehab. Not living on her own.

Her family could easily afford a good Psychiatrist, sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger then a loved one.

I could say this drama shows really bad parenting, that made these 3 do something so stupid.

Manav, Over pampering and spoiling Ovi, made her a weak person and a little selfish.

Archana, With Purvi crying about her lost family, also Purvi had to bear taunts of getting picked up from the streets and should be grateful to Archana. Not realizing the effect that must have on Purvi.

DK, to busy mourning over his dead wife and neglecting his own sons emotional needs, while growing up.

All this made these 3 do that messed up their lives. So in this situation I blame all 3.

The initiator Ovi, the taker Purvi and letting it happen Arjun.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: sunflower52

You can not force anyone when they are not ready. Ovi is not ready to let go and when she is. She will come and talk with her parents.

Ovi is shown to be a stubborn person and does what she pleases. So in this type case even good parents give up.

Now look who is getting personal and just because I like Arvi does not mean I have not bashed them for their idiotic moves in this triangle.

So I am also entitled to me opinion too 😛 and this my POV. If you disagree fine by me.

It is not about forcing to face her problems. They can just be there physically as a moral safety net. They can even distract her. There is a time and place to give someone space, this is not it. I'm not saying Arman should force Ovi to face the issue, not at all. I think if left to her own vices, Ovi would relapse, judging from her history of coping. It can lead to her death or many health problems. She is clearly not emotionally strong and should have someone as a watchful guardian. If Arman are too busy playing matchmakers to care, why can't they send Teju. What bugs me is that there have been no effort in their part.

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Ume Salma Kakal

@sunflower52

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: PandorasBox

It is not about forcing to face her problems. They can just be there physically as a moral safety net. They can even distract her. There is a time and place to give someone space, this is not it. I'm not saying Arman should force Ovi to face the issue, not at all. I think if left to her own vices, Ovi would relapse, judging from her history of coping. It can lead to her death or many health problems. She is clearly not emotionally strong and should have someone as a watchful guardian. If Arman are too busy playing matchmakers to care, why can't they send Teju. What bugs me is that there have been no effort in their part.

They could have send Teju, she is Ovi twin right.

Twins are always more closer to each other then the parents. Even I do not understand, I think the makers want to erase Ovi 😆.

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Pesi

@pesi11

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: sunflower52

You can not force anyone when they are not ready. Ovi is not ready to let go and when she is. She will come and talk with her parents.

Ovi is shown to be a stubborn person and does what she pleases. So in this type case even good parents give up.

Now look who is getting personal and just because I like Arvi does not mean I have not bashed them for their idiotic moves in this triangle.

So I am also entitled to me opinion too 😛 and this my POV. If you disagree fine by me.

as an indian, i was goen thru all this ...even when i scream or shout that i need time to think or jsut leave me alone my parents never do that to me...

this is not the case whr parents forcing somethiing bad on kids ...its their love forcing on to hold on to them .. they have every right to do that ...if not i would say they r not real parents 😛

ohh..now u felt the heat that i am getting personal as i mentioned ' u like arvi ' 🤣

this is the same thing u had mentioned in ur post ' just because you like Ovi' 😛

when i said the same u felt personal attack ...heights of it ...🤪 😆😆

and of course u have ur POV..i am no one to change it n have no interest either to change it 😛

edited : 'u' 😊

Edited by pesi11 - 12 years ago

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machar13

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: pesi11

as an indian, i was goen thru all this ...even when i scream or shout that i need time to think or jsut leave me alone my parents never do that to me...

this is not the case whr parents forcing somethiing bad on kids ...its their love forcing on to hold on to them .. they have every right to do that ...if not i would say they r not real parents 😛

ohh..now i felt the heat that i am getting personal as i mentioned ' u like arvi ' 🤣
this is the same thing u had mentioned in ur post ' just because you like Ovi' 😛
when i said the same u felt personal attack ...heights of it ...🤪 😆😆

and of course u have ur POV..i am no one to change it n have no interest either to change it 😛

As an Indian also, I have an opinion that just because parents r or r not Indian, there comes a time when parents need to respect space..Ovi is a grown up independent girl (with a college education per the cvs and a modelling career). and while she thinks she is entitled, this along with this new-gained maturity of a bad marriage and likely a lot of soul searching, is giving her will to survive...see she is not raging alcoholic anymore. This has been good. She is working on herself now. She is having good conversations with her friends..ppl she grew up with etc...this is what ovi needs...and I'm proud to c her turn this way.

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Pesi

@pesi11

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Posted: 12 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: machar13

As an Indian also, I have an opinion that just because parents r or r not Indian, there comes a time when parents need to respect space..Ovi is a grown up independent girl (with a college education per the cvs and a modelling career). and while she thinks she is entitled, this along with this new-gained maturity of a bad marriage and likely a lot of soul searching, is giving her will to survive...see she is not raging alcoholic anymore. This has been good. She is working on herself now. She is having good conversations with her friends..ppl she grew up with etc...this is what ovi needs...and I'm proud to c her turn this way.

every person in the world need their space ...all i said n tries to say is though we say we need space parents will be more worried for us and they won't let us stay away from them ...they vl be the one who extends support even if we say 'i can manage' 😛

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

Fab post Pandora..Totally agree. I was and 🤣 at the same time listening to ArMan and ArVi.

Pehle it was passed off as "ovi ki bhalai" 😲Now Passed off as "Pari ki bhalai"

Purvi + I see your true color shining thru...😡
Just say you love each other, Purvi should accept her wrong doing in dumping Arjun at the 11th hour & making him marry Ovi, Arjun should accept his mistake in following Purvi's commands in marrying Ovi and consummating it after a month.

What Purvi told Archana on ArOvi's 1 mo anniv "I cant handle seeing Arjun with any other woman"

18 months later Purvi is saying " I will only marry Arjun as he is Pari's father and loves her" Not "I love him and I want to marry him"

ArVi took Ovi and her life for granted and played big time with it..Shame on parents like ArMan who do not have and OZ of care, sympathy or empathy, worry for their daughter Ovi..Ovi is unfortunate despite of having parents & family has to live a life of an Orphan while an orphan-Purvi who is getting 3 families as family. Ovi Kya naseeb tune paya 😳

In ovi's case Deshmukhs = "Good riddens" especially ArMan the parents.

I read thru 4 pages but have not read yet how Ovi has craved for a mother ever since she was a child..Her trauma = behavior is due to abandonment issues by mother.

Manav and Savita did their best. Each child is different..Teju-Sachu are different and So is Ovi. Ovi is more emotional..Girly type who needs her mom...Every time she calls she asks to speak with her mother and not Baba or Aaji. Tells one something.

Ovi is as human as you, I or any one out there. Sometimes playing tough love and forcing a vulnerable person can tip them over the edge.

Although Ovi is going thru the roughest time of her life, in depression, loss and despair she is still thinking right and has made much more sounder decision...Yes she needs her family the most along with counseling..

But having Arjun-Purvi around where Ovi should be a constant reminder of the betrayal and pain...Loss of her stillborn...Much more serious issue for any woman to deal with.

So have some compession for the evil, spoilt brat Ovi that is all I am saying.

Pandora I am with you...I am no fan girl. I watch storyline, situation and make my judgement..Support or pull the character as need be. Supporting Ovi does not make you or I a typical fan girls. Or writing our honest opinion how we see it does not make our posts bashing the other characters.

Purvi + I see your true color shining thru...😡

My POV Ofcrouse.

BTW Here is my post on "purvi's true face"

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/pavitra-rishta/3699540/purvi-real-face-reveal-mod-note-pg7?pn=6

Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago

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machar13

@machar13

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Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: pesi11

every person in the world need their space ...all i said n tries to say is though we say we need space parents will be more worried for us and they won't let us stay away from them ...they vl be the one who extends support even if we say 'i can manage' 😛

Fair enough. That is Spot on. But didn't archu and manav discuss and decided to let ovi be ? I do recall them saying but not sure. Maybe it wasn't right decision, but look how ovi is becoming so strong and objective now ! Seriously am really liking ovi like this...she is listening...not just hearing and turning her nose up...she is truly more like savita than her parents...maybe now even wiser. If u asked me 2 months ago, I could not stand ovi or think she's as real as ppl think she was because she was such a spoiled brat beyond compare to any normal spoilt brat...now with this change...she is more of a real character...

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