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Posted: 12 years ago
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After reading about the new track with Purvi all set to sacrifice yet again by giving up her baby to Ovi, I realized no need to fret, this is the story of mahaan love only with a twisted take on the psyches of the characters who could all have been so real and appealing if the CVs had so desired! Instead, we get caricatures.

Purvi - a girl with hang-ups. She is adopted, feels unworthy of love and being loved, makes up for it by being aggressive at work and succeeding but has this innate desire to prove to the world that she is indeed worthy of being cared for by a mother like her Aai. Arjun comes along, supposedly falls head over heels in love with her and she cannot believe her reality. He is to be betrothed to Ovi, her mother's natural daughter, the girl who has it all in Purvi's eyes (just by the merit of being Archana's natural born) and he has chosen her, Purvi? The deal is proposed by Ovi and Purvi perhaps still not believing she is worthy of being loved over Ovi by Arjun, proposes, nay forces, Arjun to marry her "sister". Maybe she has a faint hope that if he truly thinks her, Purvi, deserving especially after the night at the hut, he will rant and rave but decline to marry Ovi. He goes ahead and marries Ovi, proving (in Purvi's mind at least) that when push came to shove, she really was not good enough. Later matters get to a head when Ovi accuses her of trying to have an affair with her husband. Purvi is left with no choice but to tell Arjun to move on "if he truly loved her" (a last ditch attempt to convince herself that he does in fact really love her), not realizing (or perhaps realizing) that a man truly in love would never be able to move on, at least not that quickly. She is by now so consumed by her own mahaanta that she blames Arjun's & Ovi's unhappiness on her own mahaan self. She has to make amends (not comprehending that Arjun and Ovi are adults and now that they are married, they do not need her interference, sorry, her help, to right their marriage ' Purvi is not their keeper) so she comes rushing to Mumbai to make Onir treat her "sister" who has suddenly grown in stature, not only as Aai's natural born but as Arjun's wife and soon to be mother of her (Purvi's) baby's sibling.

Arjun - the dream of a guy, confident, successful, meets his match in this chit of a girl, falls in love with this novelty, a treat, a delight from mera desh who reminds him of his mom. He will do anything for her, literally anything. He is so much in love that he cannot deny her a thing in the world, even if it is to marry her sister and get her sister pregnant. Come now, he cannot be expected to forget his first love, that is why he is hurt when Onir touches Purvi, he still makes eye contact with Purvi, is concerned about her well-being, once a besotted lover, always a besotted lover. So what if he cares so much for his wife and his own sanity that he is prepared to take his ex-love's baby at her bidding? If Purvi tells him to, he cannot refuse, bechara, he not only gave up his heart to her but his brains as well. And the baby is hers, a great constant reminder of the great love he hath for this girl. He will be forever the benighted lover, only managing to live the semblance of a normal life, happy only because Purvi has dictated him to live the life of a happily married man with wife and child.

Ovi - nothing new about her ever, it is all about her. She wants Arjun, she has Arjun; she wants Purvi out, Purvi leaves Mumbai; she wants Onir in Mumbai to treat her (remember her conversation with Arjun?), Onir comes to Mumbai; she loses baby and Purvi will fall all over herself to hand Ovi hers! Great life to have, to be envied indeed!

Onir - like him and all but he keeps mouthing the same dialogue about what a godh barai means to a pregnant woman (3 times in one epi? really?), being a gyn does not make one an expert on women and their feelings. He is the ideal husband, so in love with his ideal wife and their ideal relationship that he will go to any lengths to preserve their ideal marriage. My sympathies to the poor guy.

Disclaimer : This is the devil's advocate version of the current "lead" characters of the show as Archana has allegedly left (maybe not!) the show and Manav has been made a cameo. No need to dwell on the pavitra rishta pair anymore, thanks to the CVs, all we have left is the new age version of mahaan pyaar, tyagis all around, Purvi sacrificing, Arjun sacrificing, Onir sacrificing and Ovi accepting all their sacrifices like a Goddess (or a child pacified? She looked so like a kid having fun being the center of attention at the godh barai). Good going.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear Janhvi,

No prizes for guessing why no one has as yet commented on this post. No one can contradict anything that you have said above, it is all a matter of fact. Plus your interpretations follow so seamlessly from these facts that they are less deductions than self-evident truths.

So let me, with my head ruling my heart and not the other way around, as is the norm around here, be the first one to tell you how much I like it. As always with you, it is not just what you say, it is how you say it, with a subterranean edge of sharp satire. Its edge is at times so fine that the uninitiated might mistake it for a straight comment and take it at face value. But I know my mischievous Janhvi, and will not be so taken in!

I simply loved the swipe you have taken at Onir. Lord Byron apparently detested repetition of any word, but I think at times this has its uses, as with your 'ideal' here. Onir does get on one's nerves occasionally with his own brand of mahaanta, but when he assures Purvi yesterday that he will always be there for here, the actor is able to show us his heart in his eyes, and to make it entirely believable. He lacks the overt glamour of Arjun, but he makes a superb, if much younger and far more articulate version of Colonel Brandon from Sense and Sensibility, as I think I noted once earlier.

Purvi is now at the stage of overwhelming gratitude toward him that brimmeth over, and little wonder. I do not know where they make such men; I would like to book one for my next janam ! I thought otherwise earlier, but now I feel she will never leave him unless he dies.

Arjun is getting stranger by the day. He questioning Onir about the delay in their getting back and not telephoning was impertinent and ridiculous, to say the least. Any normal husband would have told him, if politely, to mind his own business, and to stop staring longingly at his wife. They used to have these mahaan tyaag sequences constantly in the old films, but those characters never hung around and mooned about their lost loves as he does nowadays. It is hardly an edifying sight.

Oh, what a fall, my poor Janhvi, as you and I and all of us look on helplessly! And me having founded the Protect Arjun Project once upon a time, mainly to keep the likes of you from taking a hatchet to him. Luckily there is no statue here to spout blood, as Antony informs the inflamed Roman populace in Julius Caesar. (Sorry, folks, it is a positive disease, this urge to drag in literary allusions when writing to Janhvi, it is really her fault!)

Well, a lot of things seem to be in a state of flux - is Archana leaving or not? Is the quartet going to have an accident with a baby donation to follow? Will the death of the chawl boy lead to Onir unearthing an organ donation racket at the KV hospital, and thus having the hospital owner, with Mittal backing him, gunning for him? I am all set for going with the flow, with a faint lingering hope, that is getting ever fainter, that this benighted serial just might be wound up some time soon. Like by the end of 2013?😉

Shyamala











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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jahnavi ...Best post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!👏👏👏

Indeed a ...Great life to have, to be envied indeed!


The final knell gonna strike with the donation episode for the already Sinked Rishta!!!!!!!!!! Isse Acha hota if Ekta wud have made Ovi push Purvi from some high cliff...and cud have kept Purvi yet survive with her baby to re-emerge with aggression in every inch of her being... A behaviour which would be normal/sane for any mother other than the mothers of Ekta's planet.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jahnavi...if I may ask what do you do? And Shayamla ji... I guess you also hail from the literature background???????😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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No, Amber, I did my M.Sc in Physics, and I was a professional diplomat for all of 38 years till I retired recently. My link with literature is only thru my love of the language, and of languages in general. It is Janhvi who is the litterateure manquee (literary person who has missed her calling). She should have been a professional writer.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Amberpreet


Jahnavi...if I may ask what do you do? And Shayamla ji... I guess you also hail from the literature background???????😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amberpreet


Jahnavi ...Best post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!👏👏👏

Indeed a ...Great life to have, to be envied indeed!


The final knell gonna strike with the donation episode for the already Sinked Rishta!!!!!!!!!! Isse Acha hota if Ekta wud have made Ovi push Purvi from some high cliff...and cud have kept Purvi yet survive with her baby to re-emerge with aggression in every inch of her being... A behaviour which would be normal/sane for any mother other than the mothers of Ekta's planet.


Thanks, Amberpreet!
Love your last sentence but then the abnormal is the norm in this soap😉

I cannot quite understand Ovi's change of heart towards Purvi in the recent scenes, she even wants to go baby shopping with Purvi!! What poor taste on the part of the CVs if they make Purvi accompany Ovi, that would reek of hypocrisy especially on Purvi's part. We are not asking much, an ounce of reality thrown in once in a long while would serve us fine but this interminable puky sweetness on the part of Purvi towards Ovi is a bit much to digest on a daily dose.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, Amber, I did my M.Sc in Physics, and I was a professional diplomat for all of 38 years till I retired recently. My link with literature is only thru my love of the language, and of languages in general. It is Janhvi who is the litterateure manquee (literary person who has missed her calling). She should have been a professional writer.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Shyamala is too sweet and generous :) have a masters in literature and an MBA in finance. Would like to go back and pursue Greek literature at some point in time and teach, remains a pipe dream for now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Janhvi,

No prizes for guessing why no one has as yet commented on this post. No one can contradict anything that you have said above, it is all a matter of fact. Plus your interpretations follow so seamlessly from these facts that they are less deductions than self-evident truths.

So let me, with my head ruling my heart and not the other way around, as is the norm around here, be the first one to tell you how much I like it. As always with you, it is not just what you say, it is how you say it, with a subterranean edge of sharp satire. Its edge is at times so fine that the uninitiated might mistake it for a straight comment and take it at face value. But I know my mischievous Janhvi, and will not be so taken in!

I simply loved the swipe you have taken at Onir. Lord Byron apparently detested repetition of any word, but I think at times this has its uses, as with your 'ideal' here. Onir does get on one's nerves occasionally with his own brand of mahaanta, but when he assures Purvi yesterday that he will always be there for here, the actor is able to show us his heart in his eyes, and to make it entirely believable. He lacks the overt glamour of Arjun, but he makes a superb, if much younger and far more articulate version of Colonel Brandon from Sense and Sensibility, as I think I noted once earlier.

Purvi is now at the stage of overwhelming gratitude toward him that brimmeth over, and little wonder. I do not know where they make such men; I would like to book one for my next janam ! I thought otherwise earlier, but now I feel she will never leave him unless he dies.

Arjun is getting stranger by the day. He questioning Onir about the delay in their getting back and not telephoning was impertinent and ridiculous, to say the least. Any normal husband would have told him, if politely, to mind his own business, and to stop staring longingly at his wife. They used to have these mahaan tyaag sequences constantly in the old films, but those characters never hung around and mooned about their lost loves as he does nowadays. It is hardly an edifying sight.

Oh, what a fall, my poor Janhvi, as you and I and all of us look on helplessly! And me having founded the Protect Arjun Project once upon a time, mainly to keep the likes of you from taking a hatchet to him. Luckily there is no statue here to spout blood, as Antony informs the inflamed Roman populace in Julius Caesar. (Sorry, folks, it is a positive disease, this urge to drag in literary allusions when writing to Janhvi, it is really her fault!)

Well, a lot of things seem to be in a state of flux - is Archana leaving or not? Is the quartet going to have an accident with a baby donation to follow? Will the death of the chawl boy lead to Onir unearthing an organ donation racket at the KV hospital, and thus having the hospital owner, with Mittal backing him, gunning for him? I am all set for going with the flow, with a faint lingering hope, that is getting ever fainter, that this benighted serial just might be wound up some time soon. Like by the end of 2013?😉

Shyamala


Dear Shyamala, you are biased - in my favor - so will gladly take your kind words of praise, knowing it is colored by your fondness😉

Not only Byron, teachers made us go back and remove redundancies and repetitions! I dashed off the missive last night without proof-reading and was therefore dismayed this morning to see that I had used the word "realized" umpteen times, this before I even read your response! So, you see the impact those teachers have on us, years into the future!!

I liked Onir very much in yesterday's scene on the street. His "how could I not be with you?" was so simple and to the point. No nakras, no bakwas, no "I will get you the moon and stars" but a straight forward response from the heart. He grows on me 😉

I did not like Arjun questioning Onir either! What was that all about? Purvi is Onir's responsibility and Arjun needs to let go. Just as Purvi has not realized (there is that dratted word again), sorry, has not understood, that her nose does not belong in Arjun's and Ovi's marriage, Arjun needs to not meddle in Onir's and Purvi's affairs. Why this sudden overwhelming concern? He did not dash off after her when she upped and left town, granted he did not know where she had absconded to but he made no effort to trace her. He needs to chill. Yes, for old times sake, he still cares for her, is concerned, we get that but the CVs need to smoothen this with a little more finesse, it grates currently. Even if they plan on uniting them ultimately.

Wondered too about the lady's dead son, do you think it is an organ donation racket?? I suspected Mittal behind it as well, now Punni will have an even sharper axe to grind against Purvi and Onir if the latter brings about the downfall of Punni's glittering house of cards😕

😆 on booking Onir for your agla janam, I would too but have a pretty close replica at home, not quite as boring and repetitious so will ask for that model instead out of a sense of allegiance!! Plus, a known devil is better than an unknown angel - risk aversion - even if it be for all saath janams! 😃


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm not even reading much on the forum these days (and CERTAINLY not watching it), but when i saw you Jhanvi had posted something i had to read it. Then i got a double treat seeing the discussion with Shyamala and Amber.

Without going into any details of the story from hell, i simply wanted to make a few comments about all of your posts.

My two favorite lines from you Jhanvi, were "Purvi sacrificing, Arjun sacrificing, Onir sacrificing and Ovi accepting all their sacrifices like a Goddess," and Purvi's "puky sweetness".

Shyamala, ... when you said "with a faint lingering hope, that is getting ever fainter, that this benighted serial just might be wound up some time soon. Like by the end of 2013?😉" i was horrified to think that would be the date of it's official demise. 2013 has barely started, that would mean a whole year more?? It's unofficial demise of course, happened a long time ago.

And Amber I loved your line "The final knell gonna strike with the donation episode for the already Sinked Rishta!!!!!!!!!!"
...and in addition your suggestion for Ovi's pushing Purvi off the cliff but Purvi coming back with vengeance was intriguing indeed.

good going guys. Much more entertaining FOR SURE than anything even remotely portrayed in the once upon a time Pavitra Rishta.




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Janhvi di Indeed i agree with ur post just bcoz the Title Pavitra Rishta has been changed too "Tyaag aur Mahan wala Rishta"(which is an Un pure love shown by Purvi)I find her as an hypocrat bcoz of her this problems are been created.
Purvi- Her character is butchered at such extent that even "Superman can't save it"She sacrificed Arjun,She left the city for her sister,She brought Onir to create some more drama n Now Finally Donating her Pyaar ki Nishani to the step sister of her What i can expect more from her!
Arjun-Lord may have mercy on him bcoz this guy is suffering more pain than Ovi n Purvi.The word Love has got him so much confused that he is being lost in different world where people like Purvi don't even care for his feelings(Arjun's character has stucked between two immortal ladies of PR).
Ovi-She can get everything by saying just a dialogue to her aai or purvi bcoz the Queen is making orders to her soliders that i need Prince Arjun by hook or crook.Now she even didn't left Purvi's pyaar ki nishani to take away from her(its Mandatory in place of accidental case) "Mahan banana Purvi ka kartavya hain aur us par Ovi apna hukam chala rahi hain"

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