ARVI today - Page 7

Dear bee,

No, because then I would think even worse of Purvi for having palmed off not just an obsessed boyfriend, but her own HUSBAND on Ovi ! This is incredible, and I would not want to be part of this lunatic asylum any more.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: bee5

Janhvi,

That new promo doesn't tell anything. They r trying to create drama once again, it still can go either ways. I will believe only when I watch it in the episode.

Yes, If they show Arjun is the father of Purvi's baby then it can go against the characterization of Purvi. But its both Arjun & Purvi's reputation at stake and not just Purvi's. But what if they did get married before that? That hut-looking structure could have been a mandir?

shyamala dear, wud that change anything regards to ur decision of quitting PR & the forum?

Like I already mention in my previous post, there is still ways to reunite if they want to. In case that got lost in my previous lengthy reply, I'll just sketch the outline:

- Arjun-Purvi married & consummated before Purvi's sacrifice.

- Onir-Purvi not married. He just wants to support both Purvi & her baby.

- Ovi's baby is not Arjun's. In a fit of rage, she sleeps with a friend. Arjun is aware baby is not his, was supporting Ovi & the baby for family's sake.

- Family finds out the truth abt both the babies, Onir wants to sacrifice, Family wants Arjun-Purvi to get back together, Family unites Ovi with her baby's father, Purvi & Arjun reunite.

The End!

My dear,

I related the most to your PS, though the rest of your post is eminently sensible too. You have referred to my comments on Severus Snape. You might like to see again what I had written in 2 posts here about him, which I have collated into one,

"Then, as a sort of crowning glory, the ultimate embodiment of a truly Pavitra Rishta, that of Severus Snape with the woman he loves beyond her death, and I am sure his as well. I always used to think that Sydney Carlton in The Tale of Two Cities was the perfect lover, who asked for nothing and gave his life without a murmur to save Lucy's husband.

But after The Deathly Hallows, I have changed my mind, and Severus Snape heads my list now. It is far easier to face a clean death in one instant on the guillotine, and quite another to be a double agent for years and years and years, always on the edge of discovery and a cruel death, striving endlessly to outwit that master of the dark side, Voldemort, shielding his own mind from him while working to stymie his moves. That needs a cold courage of the sort that I cannot even begin to imagine.

To do this for a love that is not even returned is beyond human comprehension, it is truly sublime. I never forget the scene between him and Dumbledore, in chapter 33 of the Deathly Hallows, when Snape releases his own Patronum, the silver doe, which is the same as Lily's. No wonder Dumbledore has tears in his eyes when Snape, asked "After all these years?" answers simply "Always." I wept then, and even as I think of it now, my eyes still well up. And I am emphatically NOT the crying sort. Can any other love match this?

You were saying that to have inspire such a love, Lily must have been something. I think the specialness, if there is such a word, was not in Lily. I think it was in the poor little sad boy, with uncut, greasy hair and a sallow skin, who grew up to be Severus Snape.There are worshippers whose faith is so pure and so deep that it can make a god out a stone."

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: WanderingBeauty

PS-Read a mention of Severus Snape somewhere! This guy DEFINES love. Period. Kudos to JK Rowling for penning down such a character.

@Shyamala Aunty...


To do this for a love that is not even returned is beyond human comprehension, it is truly sublime. I never forget the scene between him and Dumbledore, in chapter 33 of the Deathly Hallows, when Snape releases his own Patronum, the silver doe, which is the same as Lily's. No wonder Dumbledore has tears in his eyes when Snape, asked "After all these years?" answers simply "Always."

YI think it was in the poor little sad boy, with uncut, greasy hair and a sallow skin, who grew up to be Severus Snape.There are worshipers whose faith is so pure and so deep that it can make a god out a stone."


Wonderful analysis Shyamala Aunty, as always. The lines highlighted in red are the one I loved the most, specially the second one. What I have liked most about Snape's unconditional love for Lily is that he considers it perfectly normal to love someone like that. Even his last words were "Look at me," so that the last things he saw before he dozed into an eternal sleep were Lily's eyes. I once heard one of my friends wish for the kind of love Romeo had for Juliet. In my case, I want someone to love me as Severus loved Lily. *sigh*

And you would love him back.

Whereas Lily falls for the handsome, arrogant and, all in all, mediocre James Potter, who resembles nothing so much as a spoilt brat who, with a pack of hangers on, struts the grounds of his college or school, in this case Hogwarts.

He loves Lily, but in a commonplace fashion, not a patch on that of Snape. Oh, he has courage too, of a different sort, but nothing comparable to that of Snape. And he is decent enough to those whom he likes, but the way he treats Snape when he hangs him upside down, and that just for fun, is awful. Harry feels ashamed of his father when he sees that in the Pensieve.

Yes, I too love that scene of a dying Snape looking into Harry's face and seeing Lily's green eyes.

Well, the greatest heroes are those whose tales are tragic. I found it entirely appropriate that Harry names his second son after two of them, the second being "the bravest man I have ever known". I only hope that Lily got to understand what exactly her best friend Severus had done for her (for it was always for her, never for Harry).

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: WanderingBeauty

@Shyamala Aunty...

To do this for a love that is not even returned is beyond human comprehension, it is truly sublime. I never forget the scene between him and Dumbledore, in chapter 33 of the Deathly Hallows, when Snape releases his own Patronum, the silver doe, which is the same as Lily's. No wonder Dumbledore has tears in his eyes when Snape, asked "After all these years?" answers simply "Always."

YI think it was in the poor little sad boy, with uncut, greasy hair and a sallow skin, who grew up to be Severus Snape.There are worshippers whose faith is so pure and so deep that it can make a god out a stone."

Wonderful analysis Shyamala Aunty, as always. The lines highlighted in red are the one I loved the most, specially the second one. What I have liked most about Snape's unconditional love for Lily is that he considers it perfectly normal to love someone like that. Even his last words were "Look at me," so that the last things he saw before he dozed into an eternal sleep were Lily's eyes. I once heard one of my friends wish for the kind of love Romeo had for Juliet. In my case, I want someone to love me as Severus loved Lily. *sigh*

Dear bee,

I forgot to add something. Re: bolded part, I do not think Arjun, assuming that he had never had any intimate relations with Ovi, would have done any such thing.

I can only repeat what I wrote to arjunluis above (to spare my protesting wrists):

"About Ovi and her baby, the one clear fact is that Arjun sees it as his. Now, if he had never had any intimate relations with her, why on earth would he do that? When she tells him the news, he is not at all surprised - which he would have been, and shocked as well, of the matters had been as some want. In fact, as soon as he digests it, he is very happy.

So it is clear that they have been having normal marital relations. after Purvi's departure. To say that he cannot because he is in love with Purvi is not convincing at all. Men do it all the time, and while we can leave Arjun out of this easy going category, in his case, he is , if anything, obsessed with doing what he has promised Purvi And before leaving Mumbai, she makes him promise precisely this, that he will give Ovi all the haq of a wife.

Given this, I do not see where the idea of Ovi having someone else's baby comes in, except a straw in the wind clutched at to try and bring an Arjun-Purvi reunion a bit closer. As you know, I have been harsh on Ovi often in the recent past, but with all her manifold faults, she was and is wrapped up only in Arjun. It is incorrect and distasteful to run down her character in hope that it will enable Arjun and Purvi to come together again".

And as for "Family unites Ovi with her baby's father", I find that a strange 19th century concept, and I suspect that not just Ovi but unfortunate chap involved would be quick to scotch any such idea. It sounds perilously like those ghastly stories in the old days of violated women being made to marry the violator, uggh..

I realise you know the CVs far better than I do, but I devoutly hope they do not descend to such depths.

Shyamala

PS: As for me, by now, I do not care whose baby either one is. The babies should, if they are able to do so, run for their lives from such dysfunctional parents - ALL OF THEM.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear bee,

No, because then I would think even worse of Purvi for having palmed off not just an obsessed boyfriend, but her own HUSBAND on Ovi ! This is incredible, and I would not want to be part of this lunatic asylum any more.

Shyamala

Duplicate posting removed.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

And you would love him back.

Whereas Lily falls for the handsome, arrogant and, all in all, mediocre James Potter, who resembles nothing so much as a spoilt brat who, with a pack of hangers on, struts the grounds of his college or school, in this case Hogwarts.

He loves Lily, but in a commonplace fashion, not a patch on that of Snape. Oh, he has courage too, of a different sort, but nothing comparable to that of Snape. And he is decent enough to those whom he likes, but the way he treats Snape when he hangs him upside down, and that just for fun, is awful. Harry feels ashamed of his father when he sees that in the Pensieve.

Yes, I too love that scene of a dying Snape looking into Harry's face and seeing Lily's green eyes.

Well, the greatest heroes are those whose tales are tragic. I found it entirely appropriate that Harry names his second son after two of them, the second being "the bravest man I have ever known". I only hope that Lily got to understand what exactly her best friend Severus had done for her (for it was always for her, never for Harry).

Shyamala Aunty

Aunty Ji...🤗 i just loved every part of this...like you i love Snape and cried when Snape died...the pink, i couldn't agree more...he did everything for her and also died for her...it is one of the best love stories i have ever read...😃

I liked that too that Harry named his son Severus and loved the passage where Snape gazes at Harry's eyes as he passes on. Sublime love, indeed, tragic but unwavering. We have a shrine at home, an entire wall devoted to Harry Potter and Snape, his bday as well as Harry's are celebrated with gusto (and madness).

Originally posted by: bee5

Janhvi,

That new promo doesn't tell anything. They r trying to create drama once again, it still can go either ways. I will believe only when I watch it in the episode.

Yes, If they show Arjun is the father of Purvi's baby then it can go against the characterization of Purvi. But its both Arjun & Purvi's reputation at stake and not just Purvi's. But what if they did get married before that? That hut-looking structure could have been a mandir?

shyamala dear, wud that change anything regards to ur decision of quitting PR & the forum?

Like I already mention in my previous post, there is still ways to reunite if they want to. In case that got lost in my previous lengthy reply, I'll just sketch the outline:

- Arjun-Purvi married & consummated before Purvi's sacrifice.

- Onir-Purvi not married. He just wants to support both Purvi & her baby.

- Ovi's baby is not Arjun's. In a fit of rage, she sleeps with a friend. Arjun is aware baby is not his, was supporting Ovi & the baby for family's sake.

- Family finds out the truth abt both the babies, Onir wants to sacrifice, Family wants Arjun-Purvi to get back together, Family unites Ovi with her baby's father, Purvi & Arjun reunite.

The End!

Bee, I have staunchly held from the beginning that Arjun and Purvi were already married when she gave him up to Ovi.

As one of the members pointed out, thinking back, it is strange that Arjun would have told Ovi the abortion would be solely her decision, why would he say that if it were his baby too? Something fishy there.

As Uma writes, this is a soap and things change on a daily, if minute by minute basis. As it stands today, an ARVI reunion seems impossible but the CVs might work miracles, spin the story on its head and Arjun and Purvi may still come together.

If Purvi's baby is Arjun's, I say she was married to him. Hence his angry "you won't be able to see me marry another", maybe also explains his agreeing to go forward with the hilltop wedding as to him it was really a farce. Would that put him within the radar of the law for playing bigamist?
Ovi in a fit of drunken stupor did the unthinkable with someone else and Arjun to save Purvi's family and honor is accepting of Ovi and her child.
Onir either plays martyr or proves to be someone with a nasty past and a negative character. I prefer the first, he is too nice to be made evil.

If none of the above hold good, I want Purvi to be carrying Onir's twins and for the two of them to live happily ever after with their sanskari thyagi bachas.

I also want Arjun then (as I have oft said before) to be neither baby's dad and to be set free of the D girls so he can finally find his own true love.

Et tu, Jahnvi! Please desist, there is a dear girl. We have had enough of all these endless permutations and combinations, each worse than the other.

So now you want Arjun and Purvi to have gone thru a gandharva vivah as in mythological times, for surely there was neither priest nor a registrar of marriages in that dirty little shack. And then they needed to have their suhaag shaam pronto.

What IS all this? It is making Purvi out to be as bad, or worse than, to use an inelegant phrase, a girl who would be game for a roll in the hay with her fiance the day before her marriage. Do you really think that she would go in for either of these options, given her nature and her upbringing? Nyet, and again nyet. And why the devil should she do it anyway? Does sudden passion play out better on a dirty wooden floor than in linen sheets? It is plain awful. More to the point, it is not credible at all.

Next, accepting your new sanskaari thesis for the sake of argument, is it all right for Purvi to con Ovi into a bigamous (at least emotionally, if not legally) marriage? If it was a sale of goods, I would say caveat emptor. It is cheating of a blatant sort. As for your interpretation of Arjun's comment, it is not credible either, and it makes me think very badly of him, that he would be party to such a fraud.

No,he would not be up for bigamy as his gandharva vivah with Purvi would not hold up in any court of law. So Purvi's Arjun ke pyaar ki nishaani, that half this forum is rejoicing over, will still be decidedly illegitimate. Or rather, the parents will be illegitimate; the children never are, for they did not ask to be born.

Janhvi, let us not cut up these characters any more than they have been already, and let us leave them to their respective fates. I loved your opening post in this thread. Let us just stay with that, for there is no way you can improve upon it and certainly not with this gandharva vivah, suhaag shaam, and the like.

As I wrote above, I no longer care whose either baby is, but my advice to both of them is to run away as far as possible from these dysfunctional parents, ALL of them, as soon as they can stand on their fat little legs.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Bee, I have staunchly held from the beginning that Arjun and Purvi were already married when she gave him up to Ovi.

As one of the members pointed out, thinking back, it is strange that Arjun would have told Ovi the abortion would be solely her decision, why would he say that if it were his baby too? Something fishy there.

As Uma writes, this is a soap and things change on a daily, if minute by minute basis. As it stands today, an ARVI reunion seems impossible but the CVs might work miracles, spin the story on its head and Arjun and Purvi may still come together.

If Purvi's baby is Arjun's, I say she was married to him. Hence his angry "you won't be able to see me marry another", maybe also explains his agreeing to go forward with the hilltop wedding as to him it was really a farce. Would that put him within the radar of the law for playing bigamist?

Ovi in a fit of drunken stupor did the unthinkable with someone else and Arjun to save Purvi's family and honor is accepting of Ovi and her child.

Onir either plays martyr or proves to be someone with a nasty past and a negative character. I prefer the first, he is too nice to be made evil.

If none of the above hold good, I want Purvi to be carrying Onir's twins and for the two of them to live happily ever after with their sanskari thyagi bachas.

I also want Arjun then (as I have oft said before) to be neither baby's dad and to be set free of the D girls so he can finally find his own true love.

Originally posted by: bee5

Janhvi,

That new promo doesn't tell anything. They r trying to create drama once again, it still can go either ways. I will believe only when I watch it in the episode.

Yes, If they show Arjun is the father of Purvi's baby then it can go against the characterization of Purvi. But its both Arjun & Purvi's reputation at stake and not just Purvi's. But what if they did get married before that? That hut-looking structure could have been a mandir?

shyamala dear, wud that change anything regards to ur decision of quitting PR & the forum?

Like I already mention in my previous post, there is still ways to reunite if they want to. In case that got lost in my previous lengthy reply, I'll just sketch the outline:

- Arjun-Purvi married & consummated before Purvi's sacrifice.

- Onir-Purvi not married. He just wants to support both Purvi & her baby.

- Ovi's baby is not Arjun's. In a fit of rage, she sleeps with a friend. Arjun is aware baby is not his, was supporting Ovi & the baby for family's sake.

- Family finds out the truth abt both the babies, Onir wants to sacrifice, Family wants Arjun-Purvi to get back together, Family unites Ovi with her baby's father, Purvi & Arjun reunite.

The End!