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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arjunpurvixo

What do you mean she was never sure? I think you might be mistaking doubt with shyness honey. There was only hesitation when she found out about his and Ovi's relation? I've seen hesitation in Purvi's eyes since day 1 with Onir lol. However, I have noticed that she's been getting more comfortable with him.. they have a cute friendship 😊


their is always a doubt from purvis side and shyness , when hesitation coming then shyness obvious but purvi too much shy when she was with arjun and it is unnecessary shy , when purvi with onir then their is shyness and comfort both exist whatever it is !!!! i cant explain feelings like jahnvi di .


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TALIRAlinda


their is always a doubt from purvis side and shyness , when hesitation coming then shyness obvious but purvi too much shy when she was with arjun and it is unnecessary shy , when purvi with onir then their is shyness and comfort both exist whatever it is !!!! i cant explain feelings like jahnvi di .


Really? I haven't noticed Purvi ALWAYS being doubtful? 😕 In what scenes was she doubtful? and okay... I'm pretty sure that Purvi was comfortable and shy when she was with Arjun - not just with Onir.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Sheetal 😊

Purvi is a dark horse (in a nice way), she keeps her feelings to herself and has a poker face, even in her relationship with Arjun in the initial stages, she was hard to read. She just might be going through the motions, smiling, being nice with Onir (Kolkata scenes) but her monologues lately indicate she is serious about maintaining this marriage. She is a sanskari girl and probably believes marriage is for keeps. Her baashan to Arjun to forget her since he is married to Ovi indicates this as well.

My biggest grouse against Arjun in all this is that he got Ovi pregnant (if he did). It is rather odd and not in keeping with someone who was so in love with Purvi, maybe in real life a guy might do something like this, but in a larger than life romance, he is expected to remain "untouched" even if married. All those soaps where the guy and girl are married but live a platonic relationship vouch for this theory. So, why did Arjun get Ovi pregnant? As you said, how come he does not know if she is lying?

I concur, I do not want Ovi to walk away with everything she has ever wanted with no punishment meted out to her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arjunpurvixo

Really? I haven't noticed Purvi ALWAYS being doubtful? 😕 In what scenes was she doubtful? and okay... I'm pretty sure that Purvi was comfortable and shy when she was with Arjun - not just with Onir.


yeah it is real that purvi always doubtful and in every romantic intense scene , she is too much comfortable when she and arjun were fought with each other .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Could also be that Purvi was shy around Arjun because she was in love with him and so was more aware of him. With Arjun, she was also always worried she was wrong in pursuing their relationship.

With Onir, she is his wife, so maybe she is surer of him and their relationship. He gave her his name and everything knowing nothing about her so that could have instilled confidence.

Could also be that as she is not yet in love with Onir, she is not shy or aware of him in that way.

Purvi was shy with Arjun only after the confession scenes not before, one could chalk it down to coyness too, she was flirty with him.

Between husband and wife, even if they flirt, it is different, you are subtly surer of the other person.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ameilia

Jhanvi i hear ur sentiments.

Purvi and Arjun did have serious talks abt their relationship.Well it came more from Arjun rather than Purvi.Arjun talked about their life together.Waking up,Purvi getting his clothes ready,eating breakfast together and going to office.Then there was the conversation between Arvi about their future children.
With Onir i agree things are different.Arjun came with a past that was connected to Purvi's family.The guilt that Purvi was the one that came between Arjun and Ovi would always dangled above Purvi's head.She was constantly reminded that she was the one who wrecked Arjun and Ovi's so called love life(according to Ovi).Purvi always felt that since Ovi loved Arjun since she was 14 years old then her love failed in comparison.She even mentioned that she saw more in Ovi's eyes.I beg her a pardon as Ovi didnt care abt anyone but herself and didnt give a damn abt Arjun's happiness.
The thing is Purvi never expected to love,This new found feeling was a breath of fresh air in her life.Arjun was the knight and shining armour that every girl wanted but whom Purvi never wished for.
He came and brought love,happiness,companionship,friendship but he came with a past that he had no control over.His lies well not telling her about his past had distanced them but i think the gap was never fully filled if Purvi still felt guilty.
Onir is a friend and not a love.I am really getting annoyed here.Purvi mentioned that there was no love just understanding in her marriage wiht Onir a few days ago and now she is comparing Arman's relationship to theirs, saying it is Pavitra Rishta.I hope the Cvs better stick to their original story but i guess they just love to send mixed signals.
About Purvi carrying Arjun's baby well i hope she is.What to say i am a die hard Arvian and will always be one.I sincerely hope that Ovi's baby is not Arjun's as i have my doubts.
In all this confusion,mixed signal and chaos the love between Arvi has never died.It still lurking in those two lovers' mind but its just that they are respecting the institution of their marriages to show it.I guess the Pavitra Rishta lesson that is being taught is that you might meet devils or saints in the cross paths of life but if u are meant to be with the one you sincerely love then watever direction u choose to take you will always find a way back to each other.
Thats just my POV.

👏 👏 well said ameilia
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Janhvi,

Congratulations on one of the most lucid, cohesive, perceptive, regretful and yet uncompromising analyses that I have seen so far, of the travails and the present situation of the darlings of the PAP-APP combine. Phew! I have almost run out of adjectives, and when it is I who say that, you know what that means!😉

To get down to business, firstly, to me @blue sums up the REAL state of affairs, as opposed to the convoluted interpretations of those clutching at straws in the wind in their quest for an Arjun-Purvi reunion. I was in fact dismayed to see some of them going to extremes in this quest; one actually wrote that she wished Ovi would die in childbirth. Now I have written very caustically about Ovi even recently, but I would not want her, or even Punni the Python, to die so that I could get what I want for the others.

Secondly, to my mind, Purvi comparing her rishta with Onir to that of her aai-baba, which means, to her, the Himalaya of commitment, loyalty and a sense of belonging together, is the single most pertinent factor that has emerged so far. It does not matter whether she loves Onir or not, she probably does not. But she trusts him, and she feels that their bond can stand any stress and strain and survive, just as her aai-baba's did.This is something that goes beyond just gratitude or even mere fondness.

Purvi's is a very serious statement
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not just, as you have correctly pointed out, far more serious than anything she has said in the past to Arjun, but more serious than anything Arjun has said to her as well, even taking into account what Ameilia has mentioned in her sensitive post.

I do not see HOW the CVs can wish this away lightly. After all, Manav and Archana are the original, and to very many in the forum, the ONLY Pavitra Rishta jodi, and their relationship is the gold standard against which all others have to be judged. And if Purvi feels that her bond with Onir measures up to this gold standard, well, it means a LOT.

Some are interpreting the Onir-sleeping-on-the-floor incident yesterday as proof that Valhalla is at hand ,since Onir and Purvi are either not married at all, or are having a platonic relationship. I do not think that this (understandable but wishful) interpretation will stand up to analysis.

I agree that the episode was curiously ambiguous, with Onir asking whether the family should be told (about something) and Purvi nixing it. Initially I thought it was about the baby - for they talk so many times, and among themselves, of their marriage, including today, that one cannot question that. After all, apart from the fact that I cannot see a member of the Bengali bhadralok pretending to be married to a girl of whom he knows nothing, even if this was true, why on earth would the two of them talk repeatedly about their marriage in PRIVATE?

So, finally, after listening to Purvi talk to herself about Onir still being angry with her and expressing her confidence that he will soon understand her and forgive her, plus that soft little scene with the sun in his face and the pillow, I concluded that he was miffed by what she had done and that was his way of showing it. And that his question as whether the family should be told had also been about that. Especially when Purvi compares their relationship to that of Archana and Manav, and Onir refers again to his biwi and his bachcha. Plus, as others have pointed out so pertinently, he was sleeping in their bed in Kolkatta.

So that line is out. Remain the babies' angle(s). I cannot see how and why Ovi's baby should not be Arjun's. He obviously thinks it is his, which means that they have had marital relations. Given that, how can one assume that the baby is not Arjun's? Besides, with all her manifold faults, Ovi was and is wrapped up only in Arjun. It is incorrect and distasteful to run down her character just to bring an Arjun-Purvi reunion a bit closer.

As for Purvi, I still believe that she is going to have Onir's twins. This is not just because I want this to be so, but because I cannot visualise the Purvi we all knew taking a tumble in the hay (figurative) in a dirty little shack with a man whom she was due to marry the next day. It is just NOT her.

Okay, let us accept, for the sake of the argument, that it IS Arjun's baby. Bringing that out will not help anything; it will only make matters infinitely worse. Though it would probably not make a difference to Onir's feelings for his wife, Purvi will never be able to hold her head up again within her family, who will never accept Arjun leaving Ovi for her. Nor will Purvi accept Arjun under such circumstances. Not to speak of the mother of all scandals that would erupt over all their heads. So what would be the point of it all?

Lastly, whether I am irritated with Purvi's mahaanta obsession or otherwise angry with her, I have never questioned the fact that she is:

- a very strong character, the strongest in the whole cast of PR, and

- a very principled one, even if one does not agree with what she considers right at any given point of time. She has never let her own desires come in the view of doing what she feels to be the correct thing.

This has been consistent in her make up from the beginning, which is rare in PR. It is also significant that every time there was a conflict between what she thought was the right thing and love, she invariably chose the former. She is a conventional lower middle class girl, and these are the codes by which she has been brought up and by which she lives. She would never be really happy if she transgressed these norms.

It follows that she will not abandon a husband who loves her so abundantly and who has stood by her in her hour of need, nor will she do anything that will hurt her aai in the least, and by extension Ovi, just to regain a lost love. This will be, I feel, the crucial factor deciding what Purvi will do and where Arjun-Purvi will go. What Arjun feels and does are not so important. for she is the decisive factor, not he.

This would not change if and when Onir learns about Arjun-Purvi's past and offers to let Purvi go (always assuming that Ovi is no more, perhaps as kindly visualised by the member who wanted her to die in childbirth). That will only make Onir impossibly noble in Purvi's eyes, and she will then never leave him. being shamed by his generosity and his undemanding love.

She will end up doing an Aishwarya from Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam, and the target audience will weep happily into their handkerchiefs and applaud.The Indian viewers love sacrifice above all else, and it is that which elevates a character in their eyes, not clawing your way to your own happiness at any cost to others.

Tanyaz is right in saying that if Arjun-Purvi were to be reunited at all, Onir would have to turn negative. This does not seem to be happening. Instead, like Marianne Dashwood in Sense and Sensibility, Purvi seems to be slowly but inexorably coming closer to her husband.

So,all in all, I feel that what you hope for is, given the circumstances, precisely what I hope for too.

On a lighter note, if there is to be another leap forward this summer, where would the conflicts be if we did not have the kids of Arjun-Ovi on the one hand and Onir-Purvi on the other, either at each other's throats, or falling for each other, or both? A la Kabhi Kabhie, if one wants a desi example?

Shyamala

PS: See, my response is more than twice as long as your original post. I hope you have the stamina to get thru this,and see its length as a compliment and not as an imposition!😉

PPS: I wonder of anyone ever sweeps under the beds in the D house. We have never seen any such thing being done, but if it was, what would the poor servant make of the durree, the pillow and the sheet that Onir shoves under the bed? Perhaps Purvi puts it all away in the cupboard before they leave their room. I shudder to think of how much dust there would be on them after their sojourn under the bed!😉

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

The wise say hope springs eternal in the human breast and that may be the reason why even after a myriad bizarre twists, one still has faith that the CVs will not butcher Arjun's and Purvi's characters any further.

ARVI began with fireworks, we fell in love with their spats, delighted in Arjun's cockiness and Purvi's feisty, die-hard attitude, we spurred Arjun's intensity and conviction that he could win Purvi over and when he did win her over, we were over the moon with delight. He won her over but in the process, won us over as well. Unfortunately, what began with a bang ended with barely a fizzle.

Now, as ARVI stand at the crossroads, one does sincerely hope that the CVs do not make Arjun a wimp who makes doleful sheep's eyes at his former love, who is now his sis-in-law, while they turn Purvi into an ungrateful wench who abandons the man who has stood by her side steadfastly when she has needed help the most.

I had hoped ARVI would be back together seamlessly but the current track leaves no hope, what with Ovi carrying Arjun's child and Purvi married to Onir. The die has been cast, sadly, there is no turning back. The only way that ARVI can be together again with some semblance of dignity is IF Ovi is not carrying Arjun's baby and Purvi is not married to Onir. Barring this, ARVI need to move on with their lives, separately.

Yesterday, it was mentioned in the update that Arjun left Purvi in the wheelchair without taking time to alert Manav about Purvi's condition and that he did not stay with Purvi till family arrived. One does not do this with any relative, let alone a sister in law. He had been told Ovi was fine and awake, he could have waited a few minutes until he was sure Purvi was okay. Today, he sat stroking Ovi's hair and pacifying her (absolutely right in his position as her husband) totally forgetting the plight of the girl that had fainted. He made no enquiries, did not tell Manav, it was a non-event to him.

Onir, on the other hand, as Purvi's husband sat with her, berated her, told the nurse he would look at Ovi's reports later and assured Purvi all will be right as he was back beside her. He was playing the role of loving husband to perfection just as Arjun was. Why upset the applecart then?

Purvi obviously cares for the guy who has taken her under his protection and given her love, shelter and his name. So, she should. Today, she compared their relationship to that of Manav and Archana and felt that it was a strong bond that they shared. They do, marriage is not just about love, it is about a sense of belonging, responsibility, bonding, unity, facing the world together, being best friends. I have never seen Purvi talk this seriously about her relationship with Arjun. She was never this sure, it was always beset with doubts. Their good times together were frivolous and fun, lovey dovey but the Purvi today was serious and realistic when she had that conversation with Onir.

I believe Arjun has matured too (except for those looks at Purvi that he cannot help), he is caring and loving towards his wife who is carrying his baby. I only hope he is not thrown into a quandary and pulled two ways when he discovers Purvi is also carrying his offspring. I hope to God, Purvi is not. If only wishes could be horses!

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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One way for them to get out of this whole mess is to do what was done in the American TV serial, one of the first soapies ever, "DALLAS" to show that all that has happened since the rainy night hilltop scene was a dream either Arjun's of Purvi's or Archana's. In DALLAS an entire series which ran for a year was tunrded into Bobby's dream. In the series they ahd actually killed Bobby. To bring him back to life, they made the whole previous series a dream. So let's hope this is someones dream ( its certainly our nightmare) and soon the dreamer will wake-up and everything will be nicely sorted out.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A stroke of pure genius, my dear Sakhile, and let us hope the CVs read this post of yours.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Sakhile

One way for them to get out of this whole mess is to do what was done in the American TV serial, one of the first soapies ever, "DALLAS" to show that all that has happened since the rainy night hilltop scene was a dream either Arjun's of Purvi's or Archana's. In DALLAS an entire series which ran for a year was tunrded into Bobby's dream. In the series they ahd actually killed Bobby. To bring him back to life, they made the whole previous series a dream. So let's hope this is someones dream ( its certainly our nightmare) and soon the dreamer will wake-up and everything will be nicely sorted out.

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I hope they visit the site sometimes and hoepfully get some good ideas.

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