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Posted: 12 years ago
varsha di, regarding precap...onir said thum dono ek saath pale bade ho...what does that mean...purvi told to onir and onir certified amar prem katha of Archu-Manav...what does he mean by dono ek saath pale bade ho...

i don't think onir will know something...its just to create enthu in vieweres...as we know all the credit goes to trio whatever bad they are...

and obviously even if ovi wants to tell the past arjun won't let her to tell it...arjun never wants someone to think lil bad about his purvi...

so many things are fishy from past 2 episodes...in kolkatta situation was different and now onir sleeps on the floor...

but everything makes it very clear that purvi is carrying pavitra kid...
Edited by m_masti - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
thanks guys for telling the story

masti after kid is born the show should be named Pavitra Bachcha

he will be the product of ultra pavitra milan ...so pavitra that two days till wedding could not be suffered

i bow before this pavitra jaldi

even that would be a good title ...Pavitra Jaldi or better still Pavitra Sheeghrata
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
or ...er ...Pavitra Teji or Pavitra Vyakulta .
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Posted: 12 years ago

@blue - Certainly no love as defined in PRland, for sure.

And yes, I am a total HP fan. Books, movies and to top it, HP land in Florida. Perfect :) I saw in earlier posts that you are a Jane Austen fan like me, as well.

Less said about the show the better. What a sordid mess it has become ๐Ÿ˜•. I was holding out for the kid being Onir's but I guess that is in vain. I am giving up. I have defended Purvi for I could even come up with a reason for her coming to Mumbai - but this is so against her character as they had sketched it for us that I find it unacceptable. I saw a link to a promo and that kind of is the last straw.

I guess I will go back to the hole I came from - this is too silly.

And my name is Padma.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Strega,

Ah, a fellow Harry Potter aficionada! ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—

To my mind. JK Rowling's success was not only in creating a splendidly detailed and internally consistent alternative world, but in still keeping it recognisable, like a sort of combination of Enid Blyton and JRR Tolkien. Plus the core values were very simple: friendship, loyalty, compassion even to the likes of Draco Malfoy (remember when Harry saves him from the Fyiend Fire that one of his cohorts unleashes by mistake?), and above all and again, consistency. We the readers are never worried that Hermione and Ron will suddenly start undermining Harry, no matter how crabby and unreasonable he is at times.

Then, as a sort of crowning glory, the ultimate embodiment of a truly Pavitra Rishta, that of Severus Snape with the woman he loves beyond her death, and I am sure his as well. I never forget the scene between him and Dumbledore, in chapter 33 of the Deathly Hallows, when Snape releases his own Patronum, the silver doe, which is the same as Lily's. When Dumbledore asks "After all these years?", Snape replies "Always." Can any other love match his?

As for PR, it is a joke, and a bad one that is getting worse all the time. There, that should be enough to keep me from being warned for going 100% off topic!๐Ÿ˜‰

Shyamala

PS: What is your name, my dear, unless you would rather keep it confidential?.



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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear Shyamala aunty, Kools, Varsha di, Kalapi and everyone on KC posts,

A big big hello to you all! Also wishing you all the most fabulous new year ahead and lots of happiness, good luck and love for you and your families! ๐Ÿค—

Just happened to peek into the forum to see what new lows has this show reached and dare say, I am more amused than ever! Just caught up on few comments and posts and flabbergasted at where the CV's have taken this mess.

I have been absolutely ignoring the show and the forum for my mental sanity but I do once in a while drop in to see if any of you have made any posts..Seems like I am not the only one who has given up on the unrealistic and bizarre storyline :P

Caught up on last 2-3 episodes to catch a glimpse of Onir babu...Poor chap, how unadulerated and transparent his character looks right now, awaiting it's butchering and mutilation by the still delinquent CV's. It's a wonder that instead of getting better, they have only become worse. I loved his character in the 2-3 episodes I watched, but seems like the forum does not agree since he is the new kabab mein haddi between Arjun and Purvi. From what I figure, there seems to be no kabab also anymore with both the lovers being dutifully married to different people and playing their responsibilities. Have they shown Purvi's baby to be Arjun's and Ovi's baby to be someone else's yet? I could care less though.

Someone mentioned a Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam track. Well, even if the CV's follow that track, what a disparity in treatment to the movie versus this reckless show. (reckless because of it's pathetic dismissal of marriage over love). What a beautiful and sensitive movie! This show is more like Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna which sent out one of the most convulated messages about marriage and responsibility ever! Maybe I am too old school and this is the new mantra of the century . But it's definitely not the mantra I will be teaching my children for sure. Which is why I feel, that PR being such a daily and popular soap is propagating such wrong ideas to a population that is largely Indian and still holds the same "age old" values about marriage and morals.

Anyway, I feel sorry for Ovi. When did she start drinking? Have they answered any of the questions about pre-leap what transpired between Purvi-Onir and Arjun-Ovi to have 2 kids suddenly on their way. I am curious to know how Purvi met Onir and why Ovi took to drinking ( although I won't be surprised that Arjun and Archana pushed her over the wall on this one). But, very curious to know about Ovi's baby and if it isn't Arjun's, how come Arjun doesn't know? I guess they might have consummated their marriage anyway, so all reasoning of Ovi-Arjun marriage being invalid is thrown out of the window. But who knows! PR land anything is possible. Will keep checking forum on updated on this mystery. :P

The interest in PR is highlighted by the lack of posts from people on each episode. I barely see 2-3 posts, compared to the many that would be delightful to read before this awful leap took place. It was so much fun to sit and analyze and predict the characters and their actions. I guess, with where the show is going, not much is left to analyze since most of the characters are only dying a painful slow death. I noticed no new posts from any of you for a while! Hence, never came back to the forum actively :P Ankita is smart to leave the show. Hope they wrap up this sorry mess soon too!

On a random note, I started watching Devon Ke dEv on one saturday catching up on a lot of episodes from morning to evening. What a treat this show is! Maybe that's why I am not compelled to come back to PR anymore! Thank you to all who suggested this show earlier. It is one of the best shows on TV right now!

How are you all doing waise? Hope you all had a lovely Christmas and year end!

Much love! :)

Just saw the silly promo and can't say that I am surprised or shocked. Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam with a baby from e lover cum jeejaji on the way...Hats off to these writers who have such disgusting convulated minds that on the name of twists come up with such repulsive tracks. Will the ex lovers re-unite leaving Ovi to die and Onir to turn negative? Or will both Ovi and Onir elopet escape their lunatic spouses? I really hope they do not turn the noble and compassionate Doctor babu into a villain. I don't know if there is space left for hope on this show anymore?
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Posted: 12 years ago
pari

๐Ÿค— happy new year to u too dear .

we r all on the verge of leaving PR coz such atrocious nonsense is shown that its not worth even discussing . Literally we pop in coz we r old members , for old times sake .

Ovi is drinking coz Arjun is still mooning about his ex and talking to laptops in the bedroom even when she is pregnant .

Purvi has lied to her husband [ yes she has found a good doc for herself inspite of her infamous kaands] about many things including her family and there r hints that the bachcha she is carrying is Arjun's .

The latest thing is dear Purvi has left her hubby , plonked herself at maika and is expecting him to leave his Kolkata based practice and needy patients and follow her to Mumbai to treat her rich sister Ovi who can afford any gynac in the world .

The reason for this step is that her hubby ,the good doc , refused to treat Ovi as Ovi categorically refused to get treated by him after knowing he was Purvi's hubby .

Purvi is now sitting for poojas at maika with a pavitra big tummy , Ovi sandwiched between her and Arjun and eyelocking with Ovi's hubby , ignoring her own hubby's calls .

The latest is that the doc has buckled and followed her to Mumbai and is now sleeping on the floor in the chawl bedroom while the maharani sleeps up with her pavitra tummy , the pavitra bachcha wobbling inside .

missed u

kools




Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Pari dear how so nice to see you and read your post after a looong time...Missed you dear..Kools have briefed you in on what is happening lately.
Masti I agree Arjun will not let anyone say anything bad abt Purvi..But I think somehow Onir will put something together...
Yesterday only Purvi told him the whole story abt ArMan and kids...how did he forget Purvi was raised alone by Archana and Manav took family to Canada where twins were raised.
I GTG will update this post later.
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Posted: 12 years ago
My dear Pari,

It is so very, very nice to hear from you again,and to see that you are as rational and grounded as ever. I loved the part @blue, it restores my faith in your generation. Of late, I have been feeling like a dinosaur, stuck with values too antiquated to even merit consideration by a large part of the forum who belong to the 'liberated and modern' brave new generation.

I have not seen the promo being referred to,but if it is what you have said, then it will be very good in one way. I have promised myself that the day Purvi is finally proved to be having Arjun's baby would be the day I would finally quit PR once and for all, and NO peeping in again, like a nicotine addict wanting 'just one more little puff". That day of liberation seems now close at hand, and I am already planning what I will do with all the time thus spared!

I too send you my warm and affectionate good wishes for 2013 to be good in every possible way for you and all those whom you love and care for. Stick to Mahadev, that show is worth a dozen or more of this rubbish any day.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: pari87

Dear Shyamala aunty, Kools, Varsha di, Kalapi and everyone on KC posts,


A big big hello to you all! Also wishing you all the most fabulous new year ahead and lots of happiness, good luck and love for you and your families! ๐Ÿค—

Just happened to peek into the forum to see what new lows has this show reached and dare say, I am more amused than ever! Just caught up on few comments and posts and flabbergasted at where the CV's have taken this mess.

I have been absolutely ignoring the show and the forum for my mental sanity but I do once in a while drop in to see if any of you have made any posts..Seems like I am not the only one who has given up on the unrealistic and bizarre storyline :P

Caught up on last 2-3 episodes to catch a glimpse of Onir babu...Poor chap, how unadulerated and transparent his character looks right now, awaiting it's butchering and mutilation by the still delinquent CV's. It's a wonder that instead of getting better, they have only become worse. I loved his character in the 2-3 episodes I watched, but seems like the forum does not agree since he is the new kabab mein haddi between Arjun and Purvi. From what I figure, there seems to be no kabab also anymore with both the lovers being dutifully married to different people and playing their responsibilities. Have they shown Purvi's baby to be Arjun's and Ovi's baby to be someone else's yet? I could care less though.

Someone mentioned a Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam track. Well, even if the CV's follow that track, what a disparity in treatment to the movie versus this reckless show. (reckless because of it's pathetic dismissal of marriage over love). What a beautiful and sensitive movie! This show is more like Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna which sent out one of the most convulated messages about marriage and responsibility ever! Maybe I am too old school and this is the new mantra of the century . But it's definitely not the mantra I will be teaching my children for sure. Which is why I feel, that PR being such a daily and popular soap is propagating such wrong ideas to a population that is largely Indian and still holds the same "age old" values about marriage and morals.

Anyway, I feel sorry for Ovi. When did she start drinking? Have they answered any of the questions about pre-leap what transpired between Purvi-Onir and Arjun-Ovi to have 2 kids suddenly on their way. I am curious to know how Purvi met Onir and why Ovi took to drinking ( although I won't be surprised that Arjun and Archana pushed her over the wall on this one). But, very curious to know about Ovi's baby and if it isn't Arjun's, how come Arjun doesn't know? I guess they might have consummated their marriage anyway, so all reasoning of Ovi-Arjun marriage being invalid is thrown out of the window. But who knows! PR land anything is possible. Will keep checking forum on updated on this mystery. :P

The interest in PR is highlighted by the lack of posts from people on each episode. I barely see 2-3 posts, compared to the many that would be delightful to read before this awful leap took place. It was so much fun to sit and analyze and predict the characters and their actions. I guess, with where the show is going, not much is left to analyze since most of the characters are only dying a painful slow death. I noticed no new posts from any of you for a while! Hence, never came back to the forum actively :P Ankita is smart to leave the show. Hope they wrap up this sorry mess soon too!

On a random note, I started watching Devon Ke dEv on one saturday catching up on a lot of episodes from morning to evening. What a treat this show is! Maybe that's why I am not compelled to come back to PR anymore! Thank you to all who suggested this show earlier. It is one of the best shows on TV right now!

How are you all doing waise? Hope you all had a lovely Christmas and year end!

Much love! :)

Just saw the silly promo and can't say that I am surprised or shocked. Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam with a baby from e lover cum jeejaji on the way...Hats off to these writers who have such disgusting convulated minds that on the name of twists come up with such repulsive tracks. Will the ex lovers re-unite leaving Ovi to die and Onir to turn negative? Or will both Ovi and Onir elopet escape their lunatic spouses? I really hope they do not turn the noble and compassionate Doctor babu into a villain. I don't know if there is space left for hope on this show anymore?

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear Padma,

It is so very, very nice that there are at least some people here who feel as I do about this latest and long rumoured development. Of late, I have been feeling like a dinosaur, stuck with values too antiquated to even merit consideration by a large part of the forum, who belong to the 'liberated and modern' brave new generation.

I have not seen the promo being referred to,but if it is what you have said, then it will be very good in one way. I have promised myself that the day Purvi is finally proved to be having Arjun's baby would be the day I would finally quit PR once and for all, and NO peeping in again, like a nicotine addict wanting 'just one more little puff". That day of liberation seems now close at hand, and I am already planning what I will do with all the time thus spared! I am sure you are doing the same. My to do list begins as follows:

Reading, in that order

- All the Waverley novels of Sir Walter Scott - my brother brought me a mint condition, 1892 edition, in 11 volumes that beckons to me daily, in a reproachful fashion, and

-rereading the whole of Harry Potter and

- following it up with a similar exercise for JJR Tolkien - The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and finally, Silmarillion.

By the time I have done all this, 2013 and half of 2014 would be over, and I would have been totally detoxified of PR. So wish me luck with this programme!

Warm regards.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: strega


@blue - Certainly no love as defined in PRland, for sure.

And yes, I am a total HP fan. Books, movies and to top it, HP land in Florida. Perfect :) I saw in earlier posts that you are a Jane Austen fan like me, as well.

Less said about the show the better. What a sordid mess it has become ๐Ÿ˜•. I was holding out for the kid being Onir's but I guess that is in vain. I am giving up. I have defended Purvi for I could even come up with a reason for her coming to Mumbai - but this is so against her character as they had sketched it for us that I find it unacceptable. I saw a link to a promo and that kind of is the last straw.

I guess I will go back to the hole I came from - this is too silly.

And my name is Padma.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam


Dear Kittya,

How lovely to hear from you after so long! And thank you so very much for your comments about my take on Harry Potter. Let me guess who the 'other' favourite author of yours is, Tolkien?

As for what you have said about the need to create a recognisable world with characters one can identify with, I agree with you totally, except that it is very rare to find anything of the kind on TV. The only one I can think of in recent times was Yashraj TV's Powder, telecast for 6 months from Jan-Jun 2010, in 26 one hour episodes, one a week. It was about the global narcotics trade, whence the name. As I know a good bit about the official agencies working to curb the drug trade in India and elsewhere, I was thrilled by the authenticity of the screenplay and the direction, and the excellent casting. Perhaps predictably, it did not do well in terms of the TRPs, in part because Sony did not promote and handle it well, and after a few more attempts, including a very good adaptation of Kane and Abel as a daily, again for 6 months, called Kismat, Yashraj gave up on TV, more is the pity. So we are left to the tender mercies of Balaji and the rest.

Let me wish you a healthy, peaceful and fulfilling 2013. Take care.

Shyamala


Whenever you respond to someone, I go back to the days of letter-writing, although I'm really not old enough to claim those days. It's always delightful popping into to the forum and reading your opinions on certain things, I may not always agree, but the simple pleasure of reading them is most definitely good enough for me. Believe it or not, I have actually not done much J.R.R. Tolkien reading. Every time I begin one of the books, I become distracted by something else and it moves to the bottom of my reading list. In recent months, being on forum, and indulging in a bit of fan-fiction writing, as well as discussions over in the Punar Vivaah forum, has taken up much of my free-time, and reduced my reading hours. Currently, I am about to start my journey with Tolkien yet again, in hopes of actually finishing a chapter this time. However, I'm not quite sure when that will be done with. I'm working my way through Anna Karenina. Since it's been some time since I've read "old English", the first few pages were tedious, but I've been re-acclimatised now.

All in all, the point of all these sentences is that Enid Blyton (believe it or not) was the other favourite. When I was younger, I had quite a voracious appetite for her work. I was always searching for any that could get my hands on. Most of the time, I read her books at night, and the effect was truly something else. It was her introduction to fairytales and magic that made the world of Harry Potter such an easy transition for me in some ways, for I was already familiar with goblins, wands and trolls. However, that certainly was not the reason for me staying with and following the Harry Potter series. Rowling penned such a world, that I simply could not stay away. The manner in which I read always allows me to see images rather than words on paper, and although the objects and places were foreign, the feelings evoked were not. I felt anger at the injustices, happiness with each success, fear when I could sense that something was about to go wrong, and I am not ashamed to admit that I shed tears when Dumbledore died. Her description of that moment, and the emotions following after were so powerful. When I ended the book, I could not stop replaying that moment over and over in my mind. Perhaps, what made it stronger was the poignant message that sometimes we can do all in our power to make a difference, but our efforts are simply not always enough. Sometimes the results really are not worth the act, but that does not make the journey any less important.

For a modern series, everything in there pointed to very interesting (and useful) subliminal messages, and it pains me to know that at times I sit watching drivel or reading trash. So many wasted hours keeping track of Pavitra Rishta when all it did was achieve new lows. I've been watching some movies recently, and I keep seeing the relationship that exists between jija-saali/devar-bhabhi and while I am modern, and of a different culture, I fail to see how the nonsense promoted in the show is greeted with such love and mindless adoration. It is as if viewers have foregone their senses to watch the foolishness they portray just for a half an hour of pleasure. Yet, I know, that atleast three quarter (Platform 9&3/4 just came to mind๐Ÿ˜†) of the people would never even allow themselves to allow their thoughts to wonder in their personal lives. Why allow this to slowly ooze into the minds of those younger who are still creating their moral compasses, and are not yet capable of keeping morals in mind when making important decisions about love, lust and marriage? Is it necessary to promote adultery to satisfy the masses? Are they implying that secretly the audience is married but has outside lovers? Or are they suggesting that it is a secret desire of many, so go ahead and try your chance at it?

When I finally stopped viewing Pavitra Rishta, I had become tired of having my common sense, intelligence and morality blatantly spat upon by those I went to for entertainment. I am not begging to be entertained, they have chosen to do so. Therefore, the least that can be done is having them respect my opinions as a viewer. Why destroy a "love" so strong in the first place? I can understand Purvi feeling indebted to Archana for her care, but surely anyone can see that with or without her "gifting" Arjun to the obsessed Ovi, Manav and Archana's marriage was doomed. Such unrealistic portrayals all around. Though the amusing thing is Archana and Manav atleast had real marital issues. Issues that could have been addressed in this show rather than showing bullscrank. Many couples have distrust, insecurity,meddling family members, etc. pulling them apart. Why not make the show truly "Pavitra" and show how these things were dealt with by the common man, and what measures should and should not be taken to maintain all of the relationships a married couple have. Atleast with Punar Vivaah, I am able to see a storyline, I know what message is coming across, and I understand the psychological make-up of the characters, but this...this stopped "currying" favour with me in all aspects.

I haven't seen any of the shows you mentioned, since I don't really have Indian television at home. However, judging from what I have seen of the Indian viewership, it seems many have become so accustomed to mediocre television content, that anything different in the right way is not well received. Producers everywhere bow to the pressure of TRPs and storylines are butchered from every angle to meet the "audience's desires". Characters are irrevocably damaged, messages are lost and nonsense reigns on the television. I watch Indian television specifically because it is so different from the amoral workings of some aspects of "Western" television. However, it seems certain things that make Indian television enjoyable are being slowly changed for the worse. Sure, some things needed to be changed. Yes, evolution is necessary. Yet the fact remains that not every popular fad is good. If people were to decide that walking nude on the streets was the new fashion statement, would that make it alright?

Well, let me stop here. I don't want to accidentally offend anyone, and I really must get to bed. It is rather late over here. All the best on your side for a wonderful new year. I hope it is prosperous, and that even in the not so prosperous times, something new is gained.

Yours sincerely,

Kittya.

(Seems that letter writing effect got to me in the end.)
Edited by Kittya_Cullen - 12 years ago

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