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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Kalapi the apta leaves r from the apta tree and come in the market in abundance with marigolds to be sold during dasera time

i don't know much about the apta tree but its leaves come in prominence during this time

go anywhere in Maharashtra at this time and u will find these and marigolds sold in wicker baskets

Dasra is regarded as one of the 3 and a half shubh muhurthas when onr can start any auspicious work anytime ...oned does not have to look at the horoscope for a muhurtha on this day

A married girl's first dasra is something special for us ...the saas gives the new damad a siler or gold apta leaf a a blessing and invites the couple for lunch and lovingly prepares the sweet in lunch...be it shrikhand , kheer , basundi , halwa , sheera , laadoo , gulab jaam anything though shrikhand puri is a must for Gudi Padwa menu

in the evening in maharashtrian households ' seemollanghan' is there to commemorate the kings who regarded this as auspicious and crossed frontiers or seema to conqur other kingdoms

the apta leaves r given during seemollanghan during evening or dusk

they stand for prosperity and happiness

Manav and ARrchana should worry about Ovi' first dasra and invite the Kirloskars for a grand lunch and give Arjun the silver or gold apta leaf [ it is only given during first dasra after marraige]

the rest of dasras u give only actual leaes and a heartfelt blessing

in each marathi household you will see a lot of touching the feet of elders and this exchangeof apta leaves its called ' sona lootna' meaning 'plundering gold'...it means the kings attacked on this day and brought prosperity to their kingdoms

Durga slayed Mahishasur on this day

Ram defeated Ravana on this day

It is regarded as a very shubh day for us Maharashtrians , kids een begin learning the alphabet on this day by tracing god's name in a thali

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#42

Manav and Archana have done zero traditions for Ovi , they have only romanced and done Purvi Purvi who has absconded with a filled tummy

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#43

As far as ArMan as parents to married daughter they have done didly traditions. Archana has never said she missed raising her kids but cried buckets the 6 mo she missed Purvi...Same with Sulo today..This woman never missed her twin grand daughters past 18 yrs and never bonded with Ovi since she found out.

This is what Apta leaves and Marigold looks like and distributed on Dussera-Vijaya dashmi as good luck-blessings.

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ambolove

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Posted: 13 years ago

#44

Arjun used to be so caring and loving.

He's turned into something that I can't identify with anymore.

He consummates his marriage because his ex says so.

He gives attention to his wife because his wife's doctor says so.

He raises his hand on his pregnant wife.

What kind of a man has he turned into.

If he wanted to lash out at Ovi, he could have gone crazy at the sky or broken some plates, far far away from Ovi and his child. But one thing is for sure all this screaming and shouting can't be doing any good for the baby. The child needs a loving and calm environment neither of which Arjun OR Ovi are prepared to give.

How are they ever going to be able to move on if this is the way their relationship will always be? Hatred? Puppetry?

I'm not liking the way Ovi refuses to trust Arjun, screaming, shouting, when there is a tiny delicate baby in her womb.

In my opinion Ovi should be able to trust Arjun 100% because there should be the utmost trust in a relationship. Trusting in your other half blindly, without question that is what love is all about for me, I don't know what others think but once asked and the answer is given I would trust it and I would trust my other half to tell me the truth.

Yes I know people will come back with the Arjun argument, that he hasn't entirely been honest with her ect ect but isn't Ovi supposed to be the one who loves him more than anything else in the world even more so than her own child? If you love someone, trust comes easily, you love then you trust, even when someone breaks your trust you're more likely to let them back into your life wholeheartedly if they repent.

The question is does Ovi really truly love Arjun? Maybe she once did but has realized the extent of her mistake in marrying a spineless man and this is her way of showing that she has fallen OUT of love with him.

I don't see why Arjun doesn't just sit her down one day and explain that yes he does love someone else and yes it's not going to be easy and yes he will give his best to the relationship that he is now in with Ovi and that he won't just ask for HER help but rather will also help her too.

I reckon Arjun just does not know how to talk to Ovi and actually vice versa too Ovi also does not know how to talk to Arjun either.

He tries to tell the truth but falls frustrated which gets Ovi more worked up.

I watch two shows and the stark contrast between Arjun/Ovi and the other couple is clearly visible, both couples were forced to marry with some majboori but one couple honored their promises and their respect for each other is so great.

I really truly feel sorry for Ovi. The poor girl needed to know that she's loved, that she has her own identity, that's why she wanted Arjun, if only the deshmukhs had given her more love than material things, more attention and reigned her in a bit, she would be a much happier, loving and accepting person and all this mess would never have happened because they would have taught her the value of a relationship which she has never seen even in her parents relationship.

Ovi would have happily accepted Arjun and Purvi's relationship if only Manav hadn't stirred so much hatred and anger in his daughters mind when he and Archana were seperated.

Arjun and Ovi both need Marriage Councelling.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#45

Not in my opinion . Not in this age , not in the kaliyug . This age calls for 'love' with open eyes not blind trust and implicit trust is something very naive and naivete is punished badly in this era . This kind of trust exists only in story books now. She did trust him like that and let him go off to another country without an engagement party , interceding on his behalf to his dad ...he did not live up to that trust . Now she has no obligation to trust him . They say ...once bitten , twice shy . Love will sadly always be there on her part but never trust ...Arjun has destroyed it with his actions . Forget Arjun , she may never be able to trust a man again .

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FoxxyCleopatra

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Posted: 13 years ago

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I can't believe the way Ovi is being vilified.

The one thing I absolutely disagree with is her drinking while pregnant. No excuses for that. Other than that, she is truly a normal person and reacts like one. Purvi is not normal by any means.

Ovi is weak, confused, and frustrated. She was fine back when she was in Canada, and even now responds well when Archana and Arjun are nice to her. I don't get how someone else in her situation is supposed to behave. She came to India to find her fiance in love with the adopted daughter of her own estranged biological mother. Despite ultimately marrying her fiance, the man is madly in love with his ex and fantasizes about her constantly. Her husband is physically and mentally abusive. It is not dramatized in that sense, but what else is it? He has slapped her, is emotionally unattentive, and messes with her head by having sex with her while dreaming about another woman.

Some say she should be the strong one and leave, but why? How many young women have the strength and wisdom to understand how to deal with that? Her parents and "family" aren't of much help either. She may not completely be a victim, but she is no villain either. She is much more transparent than the others.

If anything, Purvi is the cold and calculated one. Got engaged to her sister's fiance - had unprotected sex with him - left him and had him marry her sister - continued to manipulate him after his marriage - got knocked up - cut off contact with family and fled to another state - delved herself into a new culture and quickly married another man for cover. Oh how innocent and sanskaari, right?

Why is it supposed to be cute when Purvi talks in a babyish voice and is demanding, but just terrible when Ovi is similar?

Of all, Arjun is the weakest. He allows himself to be emotionally controlled by his ex, and in the meanwhile tries to show his mardaangi by slapping his wife. Pathetic.

Ovi really needs the support of her family, Arjun needs a psychiatrist, and Purvi needs to get her haughty ass off her pedestal and come clean to everyone.

Edited by FoxxyCleopatra - 13 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#47

Foxy Cleopatra i agree with your whole post coz i feel the same

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ambolove

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Posted: 13 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In my opinion Ovi should be able to trust Arjun 100% because there should be the utmost trust in a relationship. Trusting in your other half blindly, without question that is what love is all about for me, I don't know what others think but once asked and the answer is given I would trust it and I would trust my other half to tell me the truth.

Not in my opinion . Not in this age , not in the kaliyug . This age calls for 'love' with open eyes not blind trust and implicit trust is something very naive and naivete is punished badly in this era . This kind of trust exists only in story books now. She did trust him like that and let him go off to another country without an engagement party , interceding on his behalf to his dad ...he did not live up to that trust . Now she has no obligation to trust him . They say ...once bitten , twice shy . Love will sadly always be there on her part but never trust ...Arjun has destroyed it with his actions . Forget Arjun , she may never be able to trust a man again .

Define 'Kaliyug'? 😊

It's just difficult for me to contemplate a marriage that has no foundation. A marriage SHOULD be built on trust. I agree open eyes should be there at the beginning of a relationship but blind trust should be there when you are married. I forget that Ovi is still a teenager. Oops. So maybe you are right because trust will most likely not establish itself for a couple of years yet to come. But they had a good friendship which Arjun totally destroyed. If he considered her a friend only then he should have kept his distance.

I'm sure Arjun wasn't as naive and knew that when married they will consummate and I'm sure he knew what that involved so if he really considered her a friend only why would he have wanted to marry her?

He's an idiot.

I hope what you said is not the case with Ovi, she deserves the love of a good man which unfortunately is not Arjun.

Edited by ambolove - 13 years ago

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#49

FOxy Cleopatra wonderful post and totally agree with you abt Ovi and Arjun-Ovi's marriage..Also abt Purvi the cold and calculative one indeed.

Ambolove I also disagree with you with respect abt Ovi should be trusting Arjun 100%...Why?

Has he given any reason for her to trust him since he dumped her for her adopted sister than married her and slept with her because of the exlover's insistance..He declared his love for Ex lover in front of family-friends and more..Why should his wife trust him?

Ovi trusted her childhood friend and fiance in canada and when he came to India for work..She never complained or made fuss of him being workaholic..She trusted and loved him with full heart. She still loves him but his actions has made her not trust him..Both Purvi and Arjun has betryaed her..

A best childhood friend and an adopted sister betrayed her...Mother betrayed her by taking adopted daughter;s side when it came time to stay the hell out..Same was done by Aaji Sulo who should not have encouraged ArVi relationship...And people think Ovi should trust Arjun..Give me a freaking break yaar..

It is ghor kaliyug and so we have Jeeju-Saali hooking up and breaking up families. Weak father and husbands let these kind a situations happen.

Kools dear your last sentence to Ambolove "Ovi will never be able to trust Arjun ever yet again any man" is so true..

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ambolove

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: Dabulls23
FOxy Cleopatra wonderful post and totally agree with you abt Ovi and Arjun-Ovi's marriage..Also abt Purvi the cold and calculative one indeed.

Ambolove I also disagree with you with respect abt Ovi should be trusting Arjun 100%...Why?

Has he given any reason for her to trust him since he dumped her for her adopted sister than married her and slept with her because of the exlover's insistance..He declared his love for Ex lover in front of family-friends and more..Why should his wife trust him?

Ovi trusted her childhood friend and fiance in canada and when he came to India for work..She never complained or made fuss of him being workaholic..She trusted and loved him with full heart. She still loves him but his actions has made her not trust him..Both Purvi and Arjun has betryaed her..

A best childhood friend and an adopted sister betrayed her...Mother betrayed her by taking adopted daughter;s side when it came time to stay the hell out..Same was done by Aaji Sulo who should not have encouraged ArVi relationship...And people think Ovi should trust Arjun..Give me a freaking break yaar..

It is ghor kaliyug and so we have Jeeju-Saali hooking up and breaking up families. Weak father and husbands let these kind a situations happen.

With respect to your opinion, I was saying a marriage should be built on trust, neither Arjun or Ovi trust each other so why are they together?

I agree with the fact that Arjun betrayed her AFTER his marriage with Ovi. I really don't care what happened before the marriage because Arjun was in love with Purvi and therefore he should have been with Purvi only regardless of whatever Ovi felt, she was in a better position then to get over Arjun and let him go, I understand it was arjun's mistake to agree to marry her when they were in canada but now that he is married to her he needs to honor his marriage, truly work hard at it and respect Ovi as his wife.

They really need to get the motions going, respect, trust, honor, friendship and it cannot be one sided. BOTH have to work hard at it. Ovi is also in the relationship, he is her husband therefore she can't ignore him for the rest of his or her life. They BOTH need to sit down and work it out. Maybe I hadn't made my post clear.

If she cannot trust him EVER then there clearly is no marriage so what is the point of this whole charade that we are being subjected to right now?

Whatever has happened has happened, it's all done with. They now need to think about their future. As in Arjun/Ovi and the baby and totally forget about Purvi the destroyer.

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