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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Not that i expected anyone to agree with me about the bond but

how is only Varsha's selfishness responsible for Soham to land in jail ?😕

Just as Varsha wanted to keep him away from his parents

did not Archana want to keep him away from Varsha ? Did u at any point see this understanding in her that since he has grown with her he might be attached to her and she should keep her personal feelings aside and be mature about this and include both of them so that access to him is possible ?

Archana wants him on her terms , She wants him with manners , values , improvisation . For that she sent him to jail as she believes he will come out improved and this will help him to fit in the new fold .

If Varsha had sent him to Archana saying she is your mother , not i , he would not have gone to jail inspite of many criminal activities is it ?

The fact is he knew he was kidnapped , he knows Varsha is not his real mother , he knows Archana is his biological mother ...yet he made a conscious choice .

Then what is to be done and who is to be blamed ?

And is the divine bond only between Archana and Purvi ? 😉 Bonds of divinity that would perhaps make other people like Arjun and Madhuri land in jail for perjury ?

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Kool, I haven't watched the episode yet, so can't comment much on today's show, but I always felt, Varsha loved Soham without reason. I know as a mom, it doesn't matter, if my son does thing right or wrong, I will always love him, no matter what. I will never support my kids in their wrong doing, but will always support the person and his/her emotional need.

So, with Archana, I always felt, it became more about his being a gunda. Even as a gunda he was being justified with a golden heart, because he is Soham. So, it was always more about his parvarish, then the being he is...I guess, it is hard for the Cvs to show it separately, and the Cvs always end up challenging etc., when Archana could be more with him emotionally...I guess, it is hard to show and demarcate these small difference…at the end it wasn't about parents love, but his upbringing…here Manav fell sp short, that it was unbelievable he took the twins away from Archana simply for their safety…Cvs fall short all the time…sad…

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Not just that Kalapi , his golden heart was ascribed to Archana's blood . In short whatever was good in him was bcoz of the inherent sanskaari blood and whatever was bad in him was bcoz of Varsha's parvarish .

If he becomes hundred percent sanskaari he is fit to be Arman's son . Otherwise no , a big discussion on whose par var ish would have been the best for him ...Archana's or Varshas is the topic .

I find Archana's love very conditional and glorifying herself than really caring for her son . The way she was challenging him by going to his ...a young person's level was very immature to me . Life is not about turning every thing into a chunauti ...sometimes it is also about simply loving . And today was one of those days i felt .

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Good topic kools...I have not seen today's episode yet as was out due to my Book club meeting...But will watch it this evening and post...

But from what I read loved Soham's response to Archana ...

HBK you crack me up everytime with your post..

Loved the part abt Peeda Majha in the rear 🤬 of us viewers with her nonsense eh 😉

May be we will finally get to see what we have been pining for from Soham and not Manav, Ovi or Teju..

What we expected from Ovi-Teju after finding out Archana being their mother did not happen...they all fell for her achhai...No one questioned her as Evil Savita took the fall...

Hoping Soham will do the needful...Hope CVs do not butcher Bishnu-Soham character like they did with Manav, Satish, Arjun 😡

Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago

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@FireLordPhoenix

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Kools from your posts it sounds like it's a must-watch episode. I'm going to watch it only because I can't wait for Vishnu to tell off Archana. I understand what you mean about the bond between Varsha and Vishnu. She looks like a bad mother in the world's eyes, which is partly true, but you can't deny that she really loves her son. Vishnu loves her more than any other person in the world and she means everything to him. How was Archana going to make a place for herself in his heart? He'll only still hate her, thinking she gave him up to Varsha, which she did.

For Archana, the problem is that her Soham is a gunda. Archana's parvarish would never allow any of her children to become such so she points fingers at Varsha because it's Varsha's parvarish that tainted her son. Give me a break. Everything always comes down to parvarish, doesn't it. Parvarish, sanskaar, balidan, all that nonsense. EK and her CVs overuse the theme of parvarish just as much as they do with sanskaar and sacrifice. This is the same thing I've been hearing in all of her serials. It's annoying to say the least when these characters who are so high up on their pedestals point fingers at others for the same things which they themselves do. Archana and Sulo blame Varsha for her parvarish. They claim that Archana would have given a better parvarish. Look at Sulo. What did her parvarish do? Vinod was easily influenced by his conniving wife and threw her out of her own home. Varsha was obstinate and ran off with her nephew (though she does love him more than his own mother). Sulo and Archana even made Vaishali go back to Dharmesh. And of course, there's Archana, who likes being the tyaag queen and then crying over all her decisions to sacrifice. Sulo tells Archana not to sacrifice her family, yet she doesn't listen. Wasn't Archana going against Sulo's parvarish then? And what about Purvi? Did Archana's parvarish instill in her that lying in court is okay as long as "tum aapne dil ke baat sunthe ho?"

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Children turn out the way they are ...no parvarish can mould them as a pucca guarantee nina . If this was the case all the parents of the world would have been the happiest as they would have known where they stood . But they are not ..they are worried as children r unpredictable and their own indviiduals . They heave a sigh of relief when the children turn out ok as the risk factor is always there , no matter what the parvarish is .

Blood , parvarish guarantees nothing . Genes can show some inherited traits ...like determination , fighting spirit , artistic nature etc . But thats all ...it ends there . How these traits r used is up to the maker . Savita had a fighting spirit and she fought with chawl ladies but Soham uses the same fighting spirit for vicious gundaism . Archana was obsessed with one man ...Manav and Ovi inherited the same trait but she snatched him from someone else he loved as she could not bear the thought about being with any one else. Her mother had the same one man fixation but thankfully she was married to him , Ovi was not . How these genes work is a different story altogether .

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Not just that Kalapi , his golden heart was ascribed to Archana's blood . In short whatever was good in him was bcoz of the inherent sanskaari blood and whatever was bad in him was bcoz of Varsha's parvarish .
Yup...not a single drop of Deshmukh's apavitra blood...all done single-handedly by great Mother Archana😉...can't blame Archana though, Manav is such a spineless🤔🤬...Sad though that I feel, even though Varsha was wrongly in kidnapping, she was shown taking care of little Soham, not to mention the mental instability...I can so she her state when she kidnapped Soham...have seen infertile women battle depression, inability and loneliness in real life...very sad situation those are...

If he becomes hundred percent sanskaari he is fit to be Arman's son . Otherwise no , a big discussion on whose par var ish would have been the best for him ...Archana's or Varshas is the topic .
Found it weird that Archana went on talking against Varsha, when obviously it was only making Soham mad and instigating him...found it weird she said, I am ready to accept you with your hate...and then those challenging words...wow, why is it always about winning to her? Somehow, it is always a challenge to her somehow, she could accept Arjun as he was, what makes us thinks it will be any different. It just reminds me of Nina's excellent post on the thinking of Superior nations or really anything that one isn't accustomed to from idol worshipping, to skin color superiority etc. It isthe same mentality...

I find Archana's love very conditional and glorifying herself than really caring for her son . The way she was challenging him by going to his ...a young person's level was very immature to me . Life is not about turning every thing into a chunauti ...sometimes it is also about simply loving . And today was one of those days i felt .

Yes, agreed, it has been always glorifying Archana somehow...it kind of the Great Mother is Correct with so much grey hairs😆...btw, found Archana looking like a teenager today and with MAnav, in Varsha's word😉, looking like a teenager with an old fart🤣

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

What did u think Archana's whitewith flowered material Long tunic with leggins??? Natural light brown hair do...

She looked even younger than yesterday with her puff sleeved salvar kameez...Today she wore similar outfit when she went to Ks...

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Julie

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Great post Kools. I miss your commentary though.

Anyway, eventually Soham, like everyone else, will bow to the great Mahaan Archana. That will be her crowning glory there. She was dying for the twins to accept her as their mother, yet we see no bonding with her daughters now that they have accepted her mahaan-ness Archana as their mother.

If I remember correctly, Soham had spent a couple years with Varsha not months right? Someone please correct me here but the show had taken a leap by about four years and then Soham was already living with Varsha. She had no problems staying without him then despite Manav and Savita being upset so why is she now claiming that she can't live without him for a day? She got through 18 years didn't she?

Archana is just full of drama. Maybe it's her menopause because she should be around 50 after all those leaps!!

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@FireLordPhoenix

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Children turn out the way they are ...no parvarish can mould them as a pucca guarantee nina . If this was the case all the parents of the world would have been the happiest as they would have known where they stood . But they are not ..they are worried as children r unpredictable and their own indviiduals . They heave a sigh of relief when the children turn out ok as the risk factor is always there , no matter what the parvarish is .

Blood , parvarish guarantees nothing . Genes can show some inherited traits ...like determination , fighting spirit , artistic nature etc . But thats all ...it ends there . How these traits r used is up to the maker . Savita had a fighting spirit and she fought with chawl ladies but Soham uses the same fighting spirit for vicious gundaism . Archana was obsessed with one man ...Manav and Ovi inherited the same trait but she snatched him from someone else he loved as she could not bear the thought about being with any one else. Her mother had the same one man fixation but thankfully she was married to him , Ovi was not . How these genes work is a different story altogether .

@ red - That's the thing Archana has a problem understanding or she just refuses to understand that. She thinks that proudly declaring to the world that her parvarish can never be wrong guarantees that those who have been given Archana's parvarish are blessed saintly souls. It's the children who decide how they will turn out. In some cases, certain situations mold someone into being of a different character. However, most often it is the children who decide what path they will take, what actions they will take thereby making an identity for themselves. Archana needs to understand that while children can be a reflection of their parents (in representing parents' values, beliefs, etc.) they are ultimately individual beings. Blood determines nothing either. Just because Soham has Archana's blood running in him doesn't mean he will also awaken to that saintly spirit residing somewhere deep within him.

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