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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Kalapi,

@ red
. I agree with you completely on both points, and your clarification was very timely.

The BALH scenario is completely different from the zan goings on in PR, and no one can fault Ram Kapoor for what he did in marrying Ayesha, thought it is difficult to see how he can forgive her for having sent Priya to jail for 14 years in the first place (after a Balaji style farce of a trial). And what Priya did, for some far out reason only would be mahaan types can justify, was unpardonable towards so many of those she loves, and not just Ram.

However, for a person to be declared legally dead - and thus, in this case, for the Ram-Priya marriage to become defunct - it takes not 5 but 7 years, as Rajat Kapur points out to her, and so she is still married to him. By the same token, the Ram-Ayesha marriage is automatically null and void legally.

The only character in BALH who has grown on me a great deal is Rajat Kapur. Sameer Kochhar is a fairly limited actor who is not helped by his rather immobile face, but he has improved a lot, and then again he has a totally internally consistent and very generous character, loyal to a fault to Priya. It is good to occasionally watch such an uncomplicatedly good person who is yet neither weak nor foolish. He is the main reason for my staying with BALH these days.

Lastly, soapcritic, I enjoyed your post. However, I do not think Balan will let go of Vishnu Lalla whatever the money Manav might offer, especially now that Trivedi has made Vishnu a bahubali, thus opening up fresh avenues for Balan's nefarious activities, with Trivedi's protection. Vishnu is now a gold mine for Balan, and there is no way Manav is going to be able to buy Vishnu from him. As for taking him in any other way, he is not a minor, and then Balan is a violent man when roused. Manav is more likely to end up with a knife in his ribs than anything else.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Soap critic...wanted to butt in here 😆, to me the BAHL is a bit different...Priya was assumed dead after (I am guessing )a police inquiry and the other sister was pregoo with the brother's child...some people does marry a sister or a bhabhi just to keep the child within the family and prevent badnami...so, at least I see the POV...besides, in my veiw, what Priya did was beyond pardonable (my POV)...she simply took a decision on behalf of all her family and parents...I really felt that day when Priya's dad said, 'do you know what it is to lose a child'...Priya was simply wrong to do what she did and to me Ram's anger is totally justifiable...I mean even legal court will consider a person dead after a while...in that sense Ram/Priya do not have a valid marriage anymore...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#72
good morning guys

kittya good to see u . Saw the Casanova dancing in the MS episode and laughed so much remembering u . I saw the MS episode completely and compulsorily as TV was on this weekend .

Kalapi and shyamala ...i don't watch BALH regularly but hasn't Priya kept away the child from Ram for 5 years and was coolly planning to do so for the whole life till he stumbled on her accidentally .😆

SC i hope CVs grant ur wish ...😆 i too don't care which one lands with which😆

Regarding Balan ...i think he will try to hurt ARMAN . After this if Archna forgives her sister i am speechless coz whatever Savita was she gave her children a good education ...Varsha has turned him into a cheap goon and endangered his life by watching him turn into a criminal ...kidnapping , violence , unscruplous Balan ...this is what she subjected him to . It amounts to this ...its ok for her if his life is spoilt but he must be with her only . So what if he dies in the process . Balan is dangerous and needs to be in jail and Varsha needs her discontinued pschyiatric treatment ASAP and as for Archana ...she does not need reassurance from Manav that it was not at all her galti but that someone took advantage of her achaayi but reinforcing firmly that YES it WAS her galti . Archana is as responsible for Soham's fate as Varsha .




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Posted: 13 years ago
#73

Kool,

Yes, Priya never even contacted Ram when she came to know her pregnancy. Wasn't Ram entitled to this info? She continuously took decisions on behalf of others in the name of all kind of justifications…God, how the leads are glorified, when some decisions can't be solely theirs to make.

Shymala,

Wasn't the 7 yr loophole used cleverly by the Cvs here? How convenient it is to have Priya come back after 5 yrs, when she just knew exactly where Ram lived etc. all these years. She wasn't the one losing her mental stability, either. It was rather a cool and calculated move and then she chose to hide her daughter for Ram, who had every right to this piece of info., in my opinion.

I am especially interested in this 7 yrs loophole. Priya was assumed and in all possibilities considered death after the accident. In this scenario, how can the 7 yr rule be applied? What if Ram really did move on and married someone and is happily leading a married life. It is unfair, for a wife to appear after 5 yrs and just disrupt the other wife/kids family? Somehow, this doesn't seem fair at all.

Now, if Priya was just declared missing, even then, isn't 7 yrs too long a wait. What is there are circumstances like a small kid is involved and the family decides to get the hubby married for the sake of the child. What if the hubby, after awhile of mourning, moves on and finds a girl and gets married? It is so unfair to this girl, because the first wife suddenly appears from nowhere? I find at this age, a 7 yrs wait is just not acceptable…it is a long time to wait to keep life 'on a hold' and see if someone wants to make that appearance. Even if this person lost mental stability or something, that doesn't give the person the right anymore even then to disrupt someone else's life. Unfair, yes, but when is life fair…at best, life is bitter sweet😃

In case of Ayesha, she might be evil personified, but she did make a life for herself and for her son. How fair is this to this son, for Priya to come and disrupt a setup that was working, in a sense…

As for Arjun/Ovi and Purvi mess, I too don't care where the banana finally lands up, rather am interested to see who gets to peel it first😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kool, I never understood why Varsha 'chose' to be with Balan all these years. What was her reasoning? I mean, she was the only Karanjkar female who was not only educated but also successful professionally and had a mind of her own. So, being educated, she could have found a low key job like teaching in a primary school of something that could sustain them both and in fact give a better future to Soham. I mean she did love Soham like her son, so there wasn't any reason to want a bad future of a goon for him. It is so unbelievable and is only done to make Varsha look evil, to actual avoid understanding her POV, since Soham being a negative character totally makes her look bad and give her no points for her love for Soham and her own incapability as well as that the entire Karanjkar failed to understand her or help her…Soham being a goon is to only glorify Archana in a way and nothing else. It is the trend in this serial.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Even i am zapped Kalapi . There was no earthly need to show Varsha as a mistress of a rustic goon . She could have been the perfect antithesis for the elder sister ...if the elder sister was a home maker , adjusting and traditional she was career minded , rebellious , with a mind of her own and the only one to dare to question her mother about her sanskaars . She was strong headed yes but very human . She never was one who gave romance or having children as priority and insisted her husband accept her as she was . It was Archana who gave romance above her husband's career importance and whined with a sour face that he had no time and that she remembered the kholi days . So how Varsha landed up being Balan's mistress is a big big question mark to me . She would have vomited rather than be in his bed , a woman who was shown once going to Kolkatta or trying to go to America for projects could not she work as a teacher or do tuitions to raise Soham ...how stupid and unbelievable is this . To have a maa ka dil and do this mera bachcha thing was Archana even taking care of Soham . Was he even with her . Is it okay to keep a child away knowing where he is ...that time no mera bachcha ...and to do it only when the child's whereabouts are not known . At which point did Archana truly want Soham . She had even promised Varsha her unborn miscarried baby before even the 3 months were over without even Varsha asking her for it . That child was later miscarried . Then she quickly lent Soham to her , ignoring Manav's annoyance . It always was her intention to give one of her children to her childless sister . Even on the birthday Varsha kept protesting and not going near Soham . She knew her obsessive compulsive disorder . Archana knew it too but she simply didn't care . She always had more love for her sisters than her children .

To make this wrong woman a victim everyone is shown as 'evil' . Savita is evil , Varsha is evil , all r evil and she makes no mistakes . Even her mistakes r glorified as virtues just as Purvi's barter is glorified as 'tyaag' .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala I totally 100% agree with you on your assessment of Rajat...He is a low key actor-character but he emoted exceptionally well during his confession to Priya over the phone and to DJ.
As much as Miss preachy PK did all wrong to Ram and Pihu, I can't let Ram off the hook for marrying Ayesha...Responsibilities are not taken by marrying the single prego woman...She could have had the right of being SId's wife and RK could have helped her raise Kush having Ayesha and Kush live in kapoor mansion.
Moving on does not mean marriage period...Moving on means doing something right...I understand and am on RK side for his anger and feeling betrayed by PK for keeping her and Pihu hiding for 5 yrs.
Had RK was not married to Ayesha, PK prolly would have contacted Ram earliar...
Back to PR
Balan is extremely dangerous goon but his love for Lalla is also genuine..He want Lalla for himself so he can carry on his chori chapati...Now Bishnu is declared as BahuBali that even makes him more greedy abt power and money.
Varsha being the only educated, no nonsense karanjkar girl turned out to be a huge disappointment to all...I so wish after kidnapping she had made a decent life for her and Soham..CVs want to prove Savita and Varsha's parvarish are bad so we see Varsha living with some gaon ka goon and rasing Soham in that environment.
Only Archana can raise all kids with sanskars especially adopted ones.
Lets see what remains to be seen on PR which is boring and hard to continue watching...If it wasn't for "Kool and the gang" 😛 I would have dropped it long back
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Varsha, you raise an extremely interesting point. But, even in modern Indian an life of an unmarried Girl preggo and then living with a family she isn't married too, is not easy ...I mean Indian society isn't that big hearted, even today... it was bound to start the tongue rolling... what status Ayesha had without a marriage to Sid- nothing, she is and was just his mistress, right. In fact, the parents of this unmarried girl will face a lot of humiliation not only for the pregnancy but for living under a different roof with no 'named' relationship. Besides, I guess, Sid fled leaving Ayesha stranded. Priya for all logical reason was dead. Yes, you would say there wasn't love between Ayesha and Ram, but then we are assuming that love is a needed component for marriage. But, marriage can happen even for duty. Few episodes back, they showed in CP that a bhabhi was married off to BIL, when her 1 yr old hubby met with an accident. So, Ram might have married Ayesha to, keep the baby in the family, save all of them from badnami (and not just Ayesha). Besides, it must have been very hard for Priya's father to deal with the death of Priya and Ayesha's pregnancy and Sid's betrayal and the associated badnami of the family and Ram just did the right thing he thought could help all...Priya was dead to him...this is how I look at Ram's situation atleast...

Edited by Kalapi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I really don't understand what ArMan mentality is...one one hand they say varsha will die if soham is dead, varsha cannot live without soham, varsha loves soham so much more than her life...on the other hand why they are blaming her why they are making her mentally sick...

when archu said dialogs "mera soham pani me doob raha hoga usko meri zaroorath hui hogi..." i was thinking why archu didn't jump in water when varsha jumped in water with soham...
she had dil pe pathhar while giving twins to manav, but what she had on her dil when soham/varsha jumped in water, what she had on her dil when she snatched soham from manav hands...i could just say archu has convenient crying skills just like her mom has convenient asthma attacks ...

purvi joining rival company to arjun's company...vow ab vo din door nahi jab kirloskar company ko court fraud case ki chakkar karni padengi...

may the force be with you purvi, you are just following your mom's foot steps...how can you not know that the company you are joining is rival to arjun's company...and i am sure like your mom supported chawl people you will support the new company even if they are wrong...and obviously now Arjun will be called "canada return, ambitious, money minded, who dumps girls, least sanskari..." what not...i hope this story will make arjun-ovi close, but we cannnot expect this, arjun might say purvi is correct just like his manav uncle said archana aunty is correct...

Edited by m_masti - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Varsha, you raise an extremely interesting point. But, even in modern Indian an life of an unmarried Girl preggo and then living with a family she isn't married too, is not easy ...I mean Indian society isn't that big hearted, even today... it was bound to start the tongue rolling... what status Ayesha had without a marriage to Sid- nothing, she is and was just his mistress, right. In fact, the parents of this unmarried girl will face a lot of humiliation not only for the pregnancy but for living under a different roof with no 'named' relationship. Besides, I guess, Sid fled leaving Ayesha stranded. Priya for all logical reason was dead. Yes, you would say there wasn't love between Ayesha and Ram, but then we are assuming that love is a needed component for marriage. But, marriage can happen even for duty. Few episodes back, they showed in CP that a bhabhi was married off to BIL, when her 1 yr old hubby met with an accident. So, Ram might have married Ayesha to, keep the baby in the family, save all of them from badnami (and not just Ayesha). Besides, it must have been very hard for Priya's father to deal with the death of Priya and Ayesha's pregnancy and Sid's betrayal and the associated badnami of the family and Ram just did the right thing he thought could help all...Priya was dead to him...this is how I look at Ram's situation atleast...

I get your post abt Indian society, unwed mother being prego and impact on family...
All Ayesha had to do was to declare her and Sid were secretly married...Result her being prego 😃 If Ayesha has not taken offense to Sid's betrayal...Ram is not angry-offended at Ayesha for her betrayal to Priya..Why did he marry her? And now he is mad at Priya..Hmmm I get all his reasons and I am on his side but being DA for some valid points 😃
Family could have gotten her married to someone else...Still taken responsibility.
I simply dont get why Ram had to marry her? Why couldn't RIshabh marry her? 😳😉 He was single ready to mingle than eh 😆
Masti I am with you on Archana...For 18 yrs she accepted Varsha and Soham both were dead..We never saw her cry...She was too busy being Mommy dearest in raising Purvi with all the sanskars which were ooozing out of her boosams...Not a single thought went into missing Soham, Sachu, Ovi or Teju...Now she is crying buckets saying she waited long18 yrs for Soahm's return 😲 All I can say is Lord have mercy!!!!!!!!! Such a drama queen ...Demsal in distress a turn on for Reformed Baba Manav Saint to ROmeo 😆
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Varsha, can't quote from work😃

No, I agree that all should have been dead mad at Ayesha for what she did to Priya...Ram of all person, should have just shot her point blank..although, from Ayesha POV, I get why she did it...probably a marriage was the barter here..there is always some exchange in Ekta land😕

Ayesha could have declare her marriage to Sid secretly...very true, and that was a way out definitely, since Sid probably wasn't in the picture anyway...marriage in secrecy has it share of problems, but could work if both Kapoor and Sharmas were ok to accept...marriage is nothing but a social form of acceptance..so that could work...yes, I agree with you...absolutely

Don't know if any other men could willingly marry a preggo girl, maybe for money, possible 😕

Yes, Rishabh could have married too, but Ram felt he needed to be the sacrificial lamb 😉and spare Rishabh the headache later 😉😆 and Ayesha's tantrums😆...besides, Ayesha just wanted her jeeju😉...Jeejus are some prized possession in Ekta serials😆😉...all SILs only run after them for some reason😆😉😉🤣...

You are really one of the best DA 👏 👏and that is a huge compliment, my dear 🤗and I also consider myself quite a good DA😃, since I can argue both sides effectively most of the time..😆

Edited by Kalapi - 13 years ago

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