PR Today: A Trishanku episode - Page 14

Shyamala,

Originally posted by: bee5

Jyo,
@bold: I too had almost written the same and changed it at the last moment, so that it doesn't cause some issue 😆

What issues, bee ! say it like it is ..no one needs to be get offended by it. there is good and bad everywhere..😊

Shyamala, you are underestimating our Arjun when you say that Vishnu can win over him in a brawl.. you never know.. just because Arjun is a candian dude, doesnt mean he doesnt know how to fight...:) You are right, he probably has a black belt in karate, or tai kwon do, and all his working out at the gym has to be useful somewhere right 😊.. .. Anger is enough motivation too, you know... :)... Other than picking up street language, he probably picked up some pointers in street fighting too.. see, so many possibilities 😃

Archana,
what you are saying is right in one way, I was thinking the same too all along, but there is another avenue that has gotten stronger today. Soham dada.. Both Vishnu and Ovi angles are not possible in ARVI life. Only one will take place for either separation before or after marriage. Among these two, I think after today, vishnu track in ARVI life takes precedence.

Hear me out and tell me if I am wrong.

These montages could mean anything. They had even shown Archana and daughters once, with Purvi far away just holding Archana's hand from far, and that led to nowhere before.

Scenario 1:
Ovi breaking up ARVI.
We have been suspecting of more deeds from Ovi to break our couple up. It is still possible, of course, but, for a change, let us look at that Ovi scenario another way.

Yes, this montage could mean that Ovi will cause trouble in paradise, but she already had her turn with the suicide attempt. There might be more to come, yes, but somehow dont think so. I think she did her bit in this regard and her CC'ness is waning down, I feel. The first step being she has at least accepted that Arjun has left her. She is not saying "Arjun mujse pyar karta hain"...and so on. Manav has also recognized this in her now and her family will be more watchful of her. Even if we look at Purvi, I don't think she will sacrifice Arjun for Ovi's sake. Even in the name of saving the family for Archana. Even if she does not admit it often, much to our regret :)..Purvi has always been possessive of Arjun and wanted him for herself. She has never expressed any desire to sacrifice him at any stage of their relationship. She was upset with him for not standing up to her, so she gave up on him before. It is not the same as giving him up. The way she acts and talks makes us believe that she is ready to bolt at the slightest chance, more so recently. But, she has assured Arjun several times to not leave him ever. There must be something in that. She also knows that Arjun will never marry Ovi even if she gives up, so how does that solve the problem?

Scenario 2:
Where as with Soham/Vishnu, Purvi has come to know her mother's pain for her long lost son, whom they believe is dead. So, she vows that she will return her the family she lost, as she cannot give her the son back. But, I think she will realize the futility of the family getting back, after talking to Manav today and maybe after several more efforts. As she is our persistent Purvi.. will keep at it to drive us crazy anyway !! At some point, she will come to know who Varsha is, who vishnu is, probably he wont, but our Purvi will for sure.. and not testify in court against him, as he is now her dear long lost Soham Dada ! This way, if she cannot give her Aai her family back, she will at least give her the son back.. In this scenario, the wedding will happen, but after the court incident will come the anger from Arjun for it is a betrayal to him. I am sure our secretive Purvi, despite all the words uttered today, will not share it with Arjun baba, as he may not "understand". For she will rightfully perceive Arjun's anger and hatred for Vishnu. this will, of course, cause separation or a major misunderstanding.

I wouldn't give too much credit to the Purvi not willing to live with Arjun story. I think it is too far fetched..

So, among the above two, isnt the second scenario much better and safer for us ?? 😉...This is the only way the three tracks are linked together - with Vishnu. (ARVI separation, court case, and divorce). i say, divorce, because if they move the date for a few days, all these will come out and of course, they wouldn't want to get divorced anyway..

So, what do you guys think? I think both are possible, but after today, i feel the second one more so. And also, after all the vaade, if Purvi breaks away from Arjun at the last minute, I do not think they will ever get back. Because, I do not think Arjun will ever forgive her easily and can trust her again. He has gone to the far ends for her all this time. If that is not enough to hold her back to him, what else will be..

Jyothi

Originally posted by: archverma10

Shyamala,

Or should I say Porthos?? 😊 This whole thing sounds utterly ridiculous. Purvi's sob story and her desparate need to shove herself down Manav's throat has really crossed all limits. As Archana and Sulo have tried repeatedly to tell her it is just not practical and is in fact the mark of utter stupidity to have those kinds of expectations from him.

Human nature I guess: we take for granted what we have (in her case Arjun) and want what we can't have...meaning Manav as a father. Time to accept that and move on.

I also recollect what Purvi told Arjun when during the episode when the went to see the judge. She told him she could not be happy in her marriage until her Aai was happy in hers. And with the new montage and Ovi neither here nor there, I hate to say it...but I just don't think the wedding is going to happen right now. I thought about the possibility, as some have suggested, that maybe they do get married but a misunderstanding happens after the marriage...or they go through with the marriage but Purvi refuses to consummate it or go live with Arjun as his wife until she solves her Aais divorce issue. But upon further thought neither scenario seems plausible because a marriage between Purvi-Arjun at this point would totally eradicate Ovi and Pooni from the storyline and I don't think either of them is leaving the show.

I think Purvi and Arjun will eventually get married...and no...I do not see Arjun marrying Ovi. That is not plausible either. But Purvi's foolishness is definitely going to delay this wedding for sure I feel. I don't see it happening in 2 weeks...and am waiting to see what twist the CVs come up with this time to delay the proceedings.

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

What issues, bee ! say it like it is ..no one needs to be get offended by it. there is good and bad everywhere..😊

Jyo,
Its like some people might get offended that not all people living in chawl display such behavior ... you know, if people want, they might create issue ...
That is it .. nothing much. I don't mind.

Originally posted by: bee5

Jyo,
Its like some people might get offended that not all people living in chawl display such behavior ... you know, if people want, they might create issue ...
That is it .. nothing much. I don't mind.

i know.. i got that..i was playing with u..

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

i know.. i got that..i was playing with u..

Ha Ha Ha .. what a relief.😆
Actually you covered it up very intelligently with the 2nd statement that good and bad are there everywhere.😊

Girls,

Let us get back to the gajras, please!

Bee, I used to make them with the fat little buds of the mallikaipoo, which have short stems. The othre kind is thing and has long stems, and that is the one the flower selles used, and that is one in Purvi's gajra, with some other flower, perhaps rose petals as suggested, or perhaps the orange kanakambaram. We used the latter only for the gods, we did not wear them in our hair, as there was no scent.

I was taught to thread the mallikai buds with a needle, on to sewing thread. I alternated two in a line, the buds outside and the stems overlapping in the centre and sewn thru, and then two more at right angles to the first two, and so on, making the malai as long as my paatti (grandma) wanted it to be. The way I have described it, the malai comes out looking round in the cross section, and is pure white. Sometimes we added a big red or pink rose right at the middle, so that it would look nice in a garland for one of the deities in the puja room.

The gajras made for wearing in the hair were similar but much shorter, about 4-6 inches. My paatti used to fix them to my pigtails. I had two thick ones, neatly braided on either side of my head, so that was not difficult. Two each on either side, and they used to smell lovely. Aaah...such memories!

Jyothi, Arjun could have said gunda badmaash with my blessings. Not dehati. It is not something he would have picked up in the garage - there the vocabulary would have been much more colourful, to put it mildly. The point is that dehati is a sneer at Vishnu not because he is a criminal, but because he is from a village. That is not right, and it is perhaps more the kind of the thing the old Arjun would have said, in his city-bred arrogance.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: bee5

Ha Ha Ha .. what a relief.😆
Actually you covered it up very intelligently with the 2nd statement that good and bad are there everywhere.😊

No, Archana, you have not read that post properly. Of course I am Athos, the oldest and the most mature of the three. You are Aramis, for he too was studying for the law at one point, and the casuistry and sophistry he would have picked up there would have come in handy when he entered the Church. No wonder he ended up as a Cardinal! So, by default, Jyothi is Porthos, the strongest of them all.

Well, my dear, of late all this analysis and counter-analysis has begun to tire me, though you would be justified in retorting that no one has dished out more of it than I have over the past 4 months! The thing is that one cannot go by logic, so how does one analyse anything? One's logical conclusions are promptly stood on their head by the CVs, as in the two incomprehensible cases of bail recently, for Arjun and then, worse, for Vishnu. There seems to be no use trying to analyse anything in PR.

I agree with you about the Arjun-Purvi wedding. I have always felt, and written more than once, most recently in the Dark clouds deepening post , that from the point of view of the CVs, an early Arjun-Purvi marriage would cut several months out of PR's planned life. So, to keep the serial on life support but still among the living, Arjun-Purvi cannot be allowed to take their saat pheras in peace and as scheduled.

Let us see what actually happens. But as I wrote above to Jyothi, I do not see Arjun's problems ending even if the marriage does take place as scheduled, but rather I see a new set of problems surfacing for the poor chap. He will have a wife who thinks, first and last, only of her aai. and for whom he will come only a distant second, or rather third, after her newly acquired Soham dada. When she and he discover who Soham dada really is, then things will start hotting up.

I do not think the scenario of her refusing to go and live with Arjun will fly; Archana will scotch any such ideas, and then think of the scandals that would do the rounds in the Karanjkar chawl if she did stay back!

Seriously, Archana, with the way Purvi seems to be heading, and the lousy Arjun-Purvi scenes that are dished out (even my mother made some very cutting remarks about the way Purvi asks Arjun for the pani puri and for the gajra, so foolishly coquettish), my interest in the one element that brought me back to PR - the Arjun-Purvi pairing - is fading. They seem so pro forma together, and the stardust is disappearing by the day. All that is needed to turn them into Archana-Manav II is a major misunderstanding, and Vishnu-Soham is the prime candidate for the cause for that .

As for the other major issue, the divorce, asas I said at the end of my latest, the Trishanku post,

"My take, for what it is worth, is that the divorce will go thru, and as and when PR if winding up and all is sweetness and light, they will simply get married again. For one thing, it would be third time lucky, and then there can be a Mahaepisode for it! "

Except that now I want it to go thru even more than I think it will!!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: archverma10

Shyamala,

Or should I say Porthos?? 😊 This whole thing sounds utterly ridiculous. Purvi's sob story and her desparate need to shove herself down Manav's throat has really crossed all limits. As Archana and Sulo have tried repeatedly to tell her it is just not practical and is in fact the mark of utter stupidity to have those kinds of expectations from him.

Human nature I guess: we take for granted what we have (in her case Arjun) and want what we can't have...meaning Manav as a father. Time to accept that and move on.

I also recollect what Purvi told Arjun when during the episode when the went to see the judge. She told him she could not be happy in her marriage until her Aai was happy in hers. And with the new montage and Ovi neither here nor there, I hate to say it...but I just don't think the wedding is going to happen right now. I thought about the possibility, as some have suggested, that maybe they do get married but a misunderstanding happens after the marriage...or they go through with the marriage but Purvi refuses to consummate it or go live with Arjun as his wife until she solves her Aais divorce issue. But upon further thought neither scenario seems plausible because a marriage between Purvi-Arjun at this point would totally eradicate Ovi and Pooni from the storyline and I don't think either of them is leaving the show.

I think Purvi and Arjun will eventually get married...and no...I do not see Arjun marrying Ovi. That is not plausible either. But Purvi's foolishness is definitely going to delay this wedding for sure I feel. I don't see it happening in 2 weeks...and am waiting to see what twist the CVs come up with this time to delay the proceedings.

Jyothi,

If I had to choose, I would choose option 2. I too think Ovi is on her way out, except as the key factor in determining Manav's attitude to Arjun-Purvi. There she will be crucial till the last episode, and irrespective of what else happens elsewhere in the story. Unless of course she stumbles on a man who will replace Arjun in her mind and heart, and thus set not just her, but Manav too free of a great burden of bitterness and anguish.

Not that the crazy quilt pattern of PR is in any way bound by the limits of the possible, the feasible or the sensible. The CVs are above such mundane considerations.

As for the divorce, you know what I think and, even more, what I want. So I shall not repeat myself here!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Archana,
what you are saying is right in one way, I was thinking the same too all along, but there is another avenue that has gotten stronger today. Soham dada.. Both Vishnu and Ovi angles are not possible in ARVI life. Only one will take place for either separation before or after marriage. Among these two, I think after today, vishnu track in ARVI life takes precedence.

Hear me out and tell me if I am wrong.

These montages could mean anything. They had even shown Archana and daughters once, with Purvi far away just holding Archana's hand from far, and that led to nowhere before.

Scenario 1:
Ovi breaking up ARVI.
We have been suspecting of more deeds from Ovi to break our couple up. It is still possible, of course, but, for a change, let us look at that Ovi scenario another way.

Yes, this montage could mean that Ovi will cause trouble in paradise, but she already had her turn with the suicide attempt. There might be more to come, yes, but somehow dont think so. I think she did her bit in this regard and her CC'ness is waning down, I feel. The first step being she has at least accepted that Arjun has left her. She is not saying "Arjun mujse pyar karta hain"...and so on. Manav has also recognized this in her now and her family will be more watchful of her. Even if we look at Purvi, I don't think she will sacrifice Arjun for Ovi's sake. Even in the name of saving the family for Archana. Even if she does not admit it often, much to our regret :)..Purvi has always been possessive of Arjun and wanted him for herself. She has never expressed any desire to sacrifice him at any stage of their relationship. She was upset with him for not standing up to her, so she gave up on him before. It is not the same as giving him up. The way she acts and talks makes us believe that she is ready to bolt at the slightest chance, more so recently. But, she has assured Arjun several times to not leave him ever. There must be something in that. She also knows that Arjun will never marry Ovi even if she gives up, so how does that solve the problem?

Scenario 2:
Where as with Soham/Vishnu, Purvi has come to know her mother's pain for her long lost son, whom they believe is dead. So, she vows that she will return her the family she lost, as she cannot give her the son back. But, I think she will realize the futility of the family getting back, after talking to Manav today and maybe after several more efforts. As she is our persistent Purvi.. will keep at it to drive us crazy anyway !! At some point, she will come to know who Varsha is, who vishnu is, probably he wont, but our Purvi will for sure.. and not testify in court against him, as he is now her dear long lost Soham Dada ! This way, if she cannot give her Aai her family back, she will at least give her the son back.. In this scenario, the wedding will happen, but after the court incident will come the anger from Arjun for it is a betrayal to him. I am sure our secretive Purvi, despite all the words uttered today, will not share it with Arjun baba, as he may not "understand". For she will rightfully perceive Arjun's anger and hatred for Vishnu. this will, of course, cause separation or a major misunderstanding.

I wouldn't give too much credit to the Purvi not willing to live with Arjun story. I think it is too far fetched..

So, among the above two, isnt the second scenario much better and safer for us ?? 😉...This is the only way the three tracks are linked together - with Vishnu. (ARVI separation, court case, and divorce). i say, divorce, because if they move the date for a few days, all these will come out and of course, they wouldn't want to get divorced anyway..

So, what do you guys think? I think both are possible, but after today, i feel the second one more so. And also, after all the vaade, if Purvi breaks away from Arjun at the last minute, I do not think they will ever get back. Because, I do not think Arjun will ever forgive her easily and can trust her again. He has gone to the far ends for her all this time. If that is not enough to hold her back to him, what else will be..

Jyothi

Reading the posts on this thread is much more interesting that watching the episode.

The CVs don't know a good thing when they have it... or maybe they know they have a good thing and then takes it for granted. I'm talking about the ORIGINAL ArVi pair and story. Now they are turning it into something old, lame and a repetition of times past. They don't seem to know how to carry this track forward and its frustrating.

AND maybe... just maybe... they don't know how to write happiness. I mean an ArVi marriage was suppose to be fun and filled with tradition and great scenes and the audience should be filled with anticipation to see the saat pheres. Instead, its just gloomy and bordering on dull due to the lack of hype or even anticipation.

I don't think they know how to carry any of the stories fwd and now they are just buying more time with the divorce postponed - AGAIN!!!

So Miss Shyamala, sorry... no divorce as yet (if ever).

Thank you ladies on the details of a gajra.

And thank you for making this show bearable ...