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Posted: 13 years ago
#51
Well in Sulochna's defense she did it for Purvi and plus it was Purvi's engagment and they had no other choice. They were desperate
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I want to give my opinion in this debate after a long long time because one point interested me very much . The money point .

It is often said that Manav's money is Archana's money legally and ethically as she is his wife .

I beg to differ here . She is a wife seeking divorce . She is not a normal wife staying with her husband . When she was she had full financial control . She used that money for fulfilling Sulochana's dreams by buying the Karanjkar house for double or triple the price...she used that money for loaning it to Varsha to buy jewellery , she chose not to loan it to Vandu as her husband was abusive etc . That time too I found her behaviour irrational but she unfortunately had the legal right . Ethically I objected to it . A wife does not ethically have a right to to squander husbands money on her maika . So what if the husband is nice and very loving . One does not deprive ones children financially to fulfil her moms dream . That is an understood thing . That was my thought process . If the maika has constant financial problems like the Karanjkars do a job and tell your husband straightaway that you will financially support them . Do a job and use your salary to help your maika... .no problem . I do not believe in turning your back on your biological parents . But once you realise that the need is constant ...don't milk your husband . Take responsibility yourself .

This is not a question of damad spending for sasural or bahu spending for maika . One must take respnosibility of one's biological family if one is so duty prone . Savita spends yes but Savita spends her child's money . She does not take a dime from Archana . She takes from Manav . Sulochana however takes from someone not her child . To fulfil her dreams , be it a house that costs 70 lakhs or Purvi's wedding or Punnis shagun Archana often reaches beyond her means and uses money that is earned by working hard by others ,

Now it is said that she has a legal right over that money as she is his wife . No , she is a wife seeking divorce and there is a difference . She can of course claim the money after the judge decides what is rightfully hers . The court will allot a certain amount to her if she claims it .She can pay P urvi's kidnappers the ransom amount , she can give Purvi a grand wedding , she can buy a wonderful house forSulochana ...she can do whatever she wants but after the divorce settlement which she has demanded . Till then whatever she gets from Manav is his goodness alone . Her husband is a gem of a man who pays through his nose inspite of an ongoing divorce when she demanded money from him publicly in a very ugly manner in front of all . If he decides to pay 3 crores for a girl who was adopted without his knowledge or consent it is his big heart . If he helps out financially in her wedding it is again his goodness . Let us not call his goodness as her right as it will be a long wait till and if she gets her right because make no mistake ...had it been any other husband it would have been a tough battle for the money . I think Archana is very lucky to have Manav for a husband.

Ironically all Archana's problems require a lot of money and can be solved by money alone not by sanskaars. For instance Purvi's kidnapping ... buying memories for Sulochana and arranging Purvis marraige .What I find ironic is that after critcising Manav as ambitious in open court and saying that he is not 'her' Manav after becoming rich , that she would love living in one kholi like before ... she requires crores and lakhs of rupees to solve each crisis that strikes her . This is often cited as her haq' . I find that ironical and convenient both . Here I am talking of what CVs try to show us .

Even the selling of all ornaments for Purvis wedding is wrong . Manav clearly mentioned that they had many memories associated with those ornaments . Ideally sheshouldhavedisussed with her husband before selling off her assets as a divorce is going on and yes her daughters Ovi and Teju ave an equal right over those assets . Whether they need that money or not is immaterial .

Same thing about those FDs . It is an investment made by the parents for the children.Sulo has no earthly right to say break Ovi Tejus FDs and give Purvi a wedding

Look at it from Ovi 's POV . First her mother sanctioned her would to be fiancee to Purvi ...now she is marrying Purvi off with money kept on her name . She will simply hate Archana and i feel Archana is right in refusing Sulo .

I cannot understand one thing . Arjun can give up his riches and live in a chawl for Purvi but Archana Cannot frankly tell him that she does not have much money for Purvi s wedding and that the wedding will have to be done on a small scale ?

Arjun will immediately agree . So will Purvi . What is the necessity for a big wedding when they can easily get married in a temple with selected people to bless them ? Was not the engagement a simple and private affair ?

Sulochana is closing all doors for Archana to go back to her kids and marraige if she EVER decides to . These are my two cents .






Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#53
dabulls23

why do u think that purple color and lord have mercy r ur copyright.

coming to the point. u bashing sulo is ok. but do bash savita also. she is not a saint.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#54
i still think there is nothing wrong in sulochana request.
archu rejected it and sulochana understand and accept archu decision. full stop.
but If..i said if...savita requesting the same thing and archu reject it..Savita will get angry like the yellow angry bird and trying to plan something with her evil mind to make archu agree. This old woman never stop until she get what she want. Even have to ruin her son life. That's her natural. We've seen that many times in the show.

Great different between good girl sulochana and bad girl Savita.

So..if someone say Sulochana is greedy..that makes savita greedier.
if someone say sulochana is shameless..that makes savita shamelessier (there is no such word but i know you get what i mean).
Laalchi..i don't know what it mean..but savita is laalchier.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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many member always say that purvi stole arjun, how?when arjun purvi fall for each other is that time arjun was engaged with ovi??no ,,so how purvi stole arjun ???

and now if arcna or sulocona want to something for purvi then many problem,,why??purvi also arcnas daughter and more than ovi teju,,,so why she dont sell her ornaments for purvis wedding if she need money??purvi has to right these ornaments as she is daughter and for god sake forget this adopted ,arcna not think purvi is adopted ,it is manav who think that purvi not ,,,,,so for god sake stop calling adopted ,,arcna consider purvi as like as ovi teju,,ovi teju purvi same for arcana,,


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I want to give my opinion in this debate after a long long time because one point interested me very much . The money point .


It is often said that Manav's money is Archana's money legally and ethically as she is his wife .

I beg to differ here . She is a wife seeking divorce . She is not a normal wife staying with her husband . When she was she had full financial control . She used that money for fulfilling Sulochana's dreams by buying the Karanjkar house for double or triple the price...she used that money for loaning it to Varsha to buy jewellery , she chose not to loan it to Vandu as her husband was abusive etc . That time too I found her behaviour irrational but she unfortunately had the legal right . Ethically I objected to it . A wife does not ethically have a right to to squander husbands money on her maika . So what if the husband is nice and very loving . One does not deprive ones children financially to fulfil her moms dream . That is an understood thing . That was my thought process . If the maika has constant financial problems like the Karanjkars do a job and tell your husband straightaway that you will financially support them . Do a job and use your salary to help your maika... .no problem . I do not believe in turning your back on your biological parents . But once you realise that the need is constant ...don't milk your husband . Take responsibility yourself .

This is not a question of damad spending for sasural or bahu spending for maika . One must take respnosibility of one's biological family if one is so duty prone . Savita spends yes but Savita spends her child's money . She does not take a dime from Archana . She takes from Manav . Sulochana however takes from someone not her child . To fulfil her dreams , be it a house that costs 70 lakhs or Purvi's wedding or Punnis shagun Archana often reaches beyond her means and uses money that is earned by working hard by others ,

Now it is said that she has a legal right over that money as she is his wife . No , she is a wife seeking divorce and there is a difference . She can of course claim the money after the judge decides what is rightfully hers . The court will allot a certain amount to her if she claims it .She can pay P urvi's kidnappers the ransom amount , she can give Purvi a grand wedding , she can buy a wonderful house forSulochana ...she can do whatever she wants but after the divorce settlement which she has demanded . Till then whatever she gets from Manav is his goodness alone . Her husband is a gem of a man who pays through his nose inspite of an ongoing divorce when she demanded money from him publicly in a very ugly manner in front of all . If he decides to pay 3 crores for a girl who was adopted without his knowledge or consent it is his big heart . If he helps out financially in her wedding it is again his goodness . Let us not call his goodness as her right as it will be a long wait till and if she gets her right because make no mistake ...had it been any other husband it would have been a tough battle for the money . I think Archana is very lucky to have Manav for a husband.

Ironically all Archana's problems require a lot of money and can be solved by money alone not by sanskaars. For instance Purvi's kidnapping ... buying memories for Sulochana and arranging Purvis marraige .What I find ironic is that after critcising Manav as ambitious in open court and saying that he is not 'her' Manav after becoming rich , that she would love living in one kholi like before ... she requires crores and lakhs of rupees to solve each crisis that strikes her . This is often cited as her haq' . I find that ironical and convenient both . Here I am talking of what CVs try to show us .

Even the selling of all ornaments for Purvis wedding is wrong . Manav clearly mentioned that they had many memories associated with those ornaments . Ideally sheshouldhavedisussed with her husband before selling off her assets as a divorce is going on and yes her daughters Ovi and Teju ave an equal right over those assets . Whether they need that money or not is immaterial .

Same thing about those FDs . It is an investment made by the parents for the children.Sulo has no earthly right to say break Ovi Tejus FDs and give Purvi a wedding

Look at it from Ovi 's POV . First her mother sanctioned her would to be fiancee to Purvi ...now she is marrying Purvi off with money kept on her name . She will simply hate Archana and i feel Archana is right in refusing Sulo .

I cannot understand one thing . Arjun can give up his riches and live in a chawl for Purvi but Archana Cannot frankly tell him that she does not have much money for Purvi s wedding and that the wedding will have to be done on a small scale ?

Arjun will immediately agree . So will Purvi . What is the necessity for a big wedding when they can easily get married in a temple with selected people to bless them ? Was not the engagement a simple and private affair ?

Sulochana is closing all doors for Archana to go back to her kids and marraige if she EVER decides to . These are my two cents .


Technically speaking, Manav Deshmukh deserted his wife and left her in India for 18 years! He owed her financial support for those years which he didnt give! She never asked for money but did he ever wonder how she was supporting herself? NO...he was busy earning crores and sqaundering them on his greedy mother and selfish, adopted nephew!
Archana worked and supported her mother after her father died, she even adopted an orphan girl and brought her up with her own earnings! Shes far superior to any of the Deshmukhs who are only sucking Manav's wealth for 18 yrs like leeches!

In the meantime Savita squandered her SON's money with all kinds of luxuries like keeping a PA, a dog, a butler and all the trappings of wealth that Manav earned with his hard work!

So this means only Manav's mother had rights to his money for last 18 yrs and not his wife?
NICE interpretation of marriage laws!
Perhaps Manav shd not have married at all...like many Indian men shd not marry and just hold on to Mama's pallu and supply her with all the money that her greedy heart hankers after!

Ovi and Teju dont deserve the money in that FD...they have treated their mother like crap ever since they knew who she was and Ovi treated Archu badly even before that as her dad's employee. Shes was snobby and abusive!
Ovi is an obnoxious character and I dont know how anyone can sympathize with her at all...shes fixated on Arjun who never loved her. Shes a spoiled, badly behaved girl who shd have been slapped hard early on to make her a better human being! Actually shes quite psychotic...the result of Savita's upbringing obviously!

Manav gave that money for FD when he was living WITH Archana...so that money is hers to spend as she wants to...if she decides to use it for Purvi, then thats her concern and not anyone else's!
Manav gave that jewelry to Archana when they were TOGETHER so that jewelry belongs to Archu ...no husband bothers with what his wife does with her jewelry after hes gifted them to her. Gold and jewelry is "aurat ka dhan"...to fall back upon in bad times, when need arises or emergency funds are needed.
Jewelry belongs to Archu and she can definitely do whatever she has to with them when needed.
I didnt know wives in India have so little rights over her husband's money or even her own jewelry!! 😕
Edited by pallavi25 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why should Archana discuss selling her Jewellery with her husband who deserted her 18 years ago without a forwarding address.

Since I have missed some earlier episodes did Archana knew which city they were in Canada. So if Archana had no idea where they lived even if she wanted to contact her kids she would not have been able too

As Canada is a huge country.

In fact Manav should pay her more for desertion.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The ' Stri - Dhan' or the jewllery is strictly Archana's and she can decide to sell it or keep it or squander it . The Indian court system follows the Hindu Marraige Act.

Now what the hindus normally do . Like property they even consider the jewellery as an asset as buying jewllery again and again is not possible for middle class people .Have u ever heard of a lady buying new jewellery for each of her children's wedding each time ?

The old ornaments are ideally divided equally , polished or modified and given to the children at their weddings as the blessing of parents .

If all the jewellery is given or used for one child alone the other children can feel hurt and question the mother about this . This is completely ethical and understandable .

However the mother has a legal right over the Stri -Dhan . But make no mistake ...things can get very ugly over the distribution of jewellery . The mother is expected to be fair in bequeathing it .

It is exactly one of those things where the legal right is exercised very very carefully . Like abortion . It is indeed a woman's right as it is HER body but that decision is taken after discussing with her husband . Same way using up jewllery for one child when three others are present is a very big decision . Sure she can legally do it but then she has to be prepared for the questions and anger of other children .

Archana had sold off all her jewellery and even convinced Varsha and Vaishu to sell all their jewellery to buy a flat for Vinod . I had objected to it even that time as I do not agree with her decisions of selling off all her jewllery for one person alone ...be it Vinod or Purvi .

Somewhere she knows this . Manav offered to pay Sulochana's hospital bills but she said something about taking her mother's responsibility . Similiarly she is trying to arrange finances for her adopted daughter 's wedding alone . Purvi calls Manav Baba but Archana has not asked him for the money for the wedding as she knows that Purvi is more of her responsibility . However when it is a question of big money .like the ransom amount or buying a house to fulfil her mother's dreams at triple the price she simply does not have it . At that time she turns to rich but good Manav .

The money is a totally different ball game altogether . Archana has to wait for the court's verdict about her share . Till then it is Manavs goodness alone .

Yes Manav gave her the money years ago and it is hers to keep . Perhaps he will not even ask how she spent it... ..he is that good a person .Most men would have . But Archana sentimentally invested it in the name of her children and Sulo has no right to ask her to spend it for one child . One expects more maturity from an older person . It definetely is not her money . Rather her advice to Archana should be to minimize the expenditure of the marraige and tell Arjun and Purvi some facts and get them married on a small scale . Arjun wont mind at all .

Savita having more right on his money than the legal wife Archana is the question here . Savita stayed with him . She is his mother who brought him up when an alcoholic father took the decision to drink away to glory in his budding years . If he can spend crores of rupees for a girl who was adopted without his consent or knowledge after knowing her for a span of only few months surely he will not object to his mother spending his money ? Just like the jewellery is Archana's it is his money and it is his mother . Even after so many years when none of the issues were resolved ...neither was Soham found nor was the court case nullified by her apology he was ready to take her to Canada and give her all . Not going for Sachu's sake was her decision ...becoming a wife seeking divorce was her decision when she could have all that money as a right' . So await the judge's decision for your share ! I fail to see where the haq or right part comes any more .

As far as Manav deserting her is concerned ...not contesting it was her decision .He had told her to contest him in court ...she did not . I found it odd because she had dragged him to court for random people . But not dragging him to court for her own children was her decision . Giving them up was Her decision . Did Manav desert her or did she desert her children ? I personally feel that if anyone should feel abandoned or deserted in this story it is the children .




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: TALIRAlinda

many member always say that purvi stole arjun, how?when arjun purvi fall for each other is that time arjun was engaged with ovi??no ,,so how purvi stole arjun ???


and now if arcna or sulocona want to something for purvi then many problem,,why??purvi also arcnas daughter and more than ovi teju,,,so why she dont sell her ornaments for purvis wedding if she need money??purvi has to right these ornaments as she is daughter and for god sake forget this adopted ,arcna not think purvi is adopted ,it is manav who think that purvi not ,,,,,so for god sake stop calling adopted ,,arcna consider purvi as like as ovi teju,,ovi teju purvi same for arcana,,


You are contradicting yourself dear...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

You are contradicting yourself dear...


purvi is arcanas soul daughter ,she is grew up with arcna ,arcnas resposibility ,emotional bonding with arcana on the other hand ovi teju,, there is nothing with them without blood ,,so purvi is more than ovi teju...

ovi teju purvi same for arcna is bcz 3 r daughter that sense ,,,if 3 r trouble then arcna should be tense for all 3 but so,, that sense 3 r same as 3 r daughter so no contradiction with my own view,,

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