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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well, I have to say that there is no doubt that Manav and Archana in particular, are truly acting like distraught and worried parents here. Even though Manav is downplaying the depth of his feeling for Purvi, from the written update (have yet to watch the epi so bear wtih me here), he does not allow DK to relieve him of the responsibility and take the easy way out...although stepping aside to defer to DK and Arjun, under the circumstances (considering Purvi is about to be his bahu) would have been perfectly acceptable and put him back in Ovi's good books.
I also see another angle to Arjun getting shot. It may bring Manav and Purvi closer and change the whole equation. Arjun getting shot, seeing Purvi's cry of anguish and grief when he does, and Arjun's anxiety over Purvi will make Manav realize some harsh truths. Purvi did not steal Arjun from Ovi or do any dhoka...Arjun never loved Ovi like this...and even Manav cannot deny it. He saw Arjun's behavior in Canada...and watched Arjun/Ovi's friendship as they grew up. There is no way he can deny that while Arjun may have agreed to get engaged to her, this type of all-consuming, depth of feeling was never there. I have a feeling this set up is a good thing...and him getting shot...will drive home the point to Manav of what is right and what is wrong...what is true and what is not. I feel like the temple conversation between him and Ovi had a lot of subtle meaning. He clearly told Ovi he has to be with Purvi in this...and Ovi uttered those words...sense of foreboding "in that case baba you have lost me forever".
So sadly, Manav and Archana ended up with 2 kids that have exhibited an inherent lack of morality and basic humanity
1) Ovi (not even having the compassion to realize Purvi's life and honor were at stake...a beautiful young girl in the hands of 4 goons is every parents worst nightmare...given that it could have been herself...she is still unable to exhibit even an iota of humanity. More than sadness and grief...or even jealousy...but I get the funny feeling...that she no longer laments or longs for Arjun...hearing him talk to Purvi may have opened Pandora's box for her...so that all those vices...revenge, hatred, etc are going to be her agenda from now on.
2) To be honest I am not sold on Soham/Vishnu either. I think the fact that he shoots Arjun proves the point right there. Tomorrow's scene that was shown on SBS should confirm things here. He had Manav in front of him with a gun to his head. His original target was Manav and he had him as well as the money. What then was the need to shoot Arjun if he is not so bad as we think? Why shoot at them like that at all? The fact is simple. Arjun was right...and just like the movie Ransom...Mel Gibson called it correctly there too. Once he had the $$ he had no intention of letting any of them leave the place----alive. I think he is very cold-blooded...and does have an obvious bond with and need for approval from Balan. I dont think any revelations about his birth and past are going to change that...I just dont see it. Its either the character or the situation. In his case, this is his character now. There are children of mob bosses and gangsters who turn out to be good, compassionate human beings...lacking the taste for bloodshed or aptitude for murder. So it doesnt matter how he was raised. If he had the basic, inherent character...he would be unable to be so ruthless or cold-blooded...irrespective of who his parents are and how he is raised.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Arch. I'm very sure that this incident is going to make Manav realize how much Arjun and Purvi love each other. But first the poor man has to get that gun off his head. Vishnu surely is ruthless. It will take a hundred more epiodes to turn him into a good young man who could truly be called Archana and Manav's son. A few months back I had read an article where they wrote that Soham was going to enter PR as a rich young tycoon but... what a shame that he is just this uneducated, uncouth ruffian and kidnapper. Varsha ran off with him but did nothing to raise him the proper way. She didn't even send him to school. Shame on her!
have to tell you again that I enjoyed your post and do keep it up!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: namitagloryz

Great post Arch. I'm very sure that this incident is going to make Manav realize how much Arjun and Purvi love each other. But first the poor man has to get that gun off his head. Vishnu surely is ruthless. It will take a hundred more epiodes to turn him into a good young man who could truly be called Archana and Manav's son. A few months back I had read an article where they wrote that Soham was going to enter PR as a rich young tycoon but... what a shame that he is just this uneducated, uncouth ruffian and kidnapper. Varsha ran off with him but did nothing to raise him the proper way. She didn't even send him to school. Shame on her!

have to tell you again that I enjoyed your post and do keep it up!

Thank you so much Namita! It has been a long while since Ive been on the forum and written a new topic too...so your comments are very heartwarming and a definite boost!! I used to post a lot during the Arjun/Purvi/Ovi days...thinking maybe I need to start back up again...😉 As long as nobody minds being bored to death by the long posts...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very intriguing take!
I have to agree with your points about Ovi- I have felt from the beginning that she was going fatal attraction crazy, and her reactions over this last track makes it appear that resentment has clouded her rational judgmen.
Soham- I really have no clue... it brings up the nature vs nuture argument...and really I cannot figure Soham out...I suppose we will only find out more as the track progresses- and see where they decide to take us. But Soham may be completely cold blooded, or he might still have a soul...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderful analysis Arch...Good to see ur post after some time..Welcome back..😊..
Manav was true to his character and as he promised to Purvi,he stands by it to be there for her when she needs him .Its sad that Ovi being in the current state she is ,does not see things that way and sad that Manav has to face this,but he is doing what is right here.
Manav was right not accepting DK's offer. Purvi is still Arman's daughter and she is yet to be DK' s bahu.so Manav as a parent did what he felt was right.But unfortunately circumstance is such that ,Ovi feels that she is neglected and everyone has been snatched from her by Purvi. sad sad situation for her.She badly needs some proper help otherwise she is going to be very soon admitted in mental asylum.Why cant CV's just allow her to move on is beyond me.When she was trying to move on,she is pegged back thanks to CV's.I am not sure why Ovi has to be made to look a cold-hearted soul ,depriving her of Arman's traits..Wonderful acting by Shruthi here. though.👍🏼..Tej was wonderful..I dont agree on Tej..She was wonderful yesterday when she consoled Sulo and offered water to Archu..She was trying her best to console folks from her side directly/indirectly.She really is a sweet girl.
Yes I think the whole point of Arjun getting shot I guess is to bring in closure to the challenge fiasco and with Manav getting close once again to Arjun and Purvi getting her Baba in full swing.
I think this kidnap track will make both Manav n Archu approve Arvi and even though Ovi might not like it ,I think Manav will do what is right and this will eventually get Archu's approval too for Arvi.
I think then the focus shifts on Soham and his confrontation with Arman.I see that this kidnap track is going to give someone either Arvi or Manav that Soham is somewhere connected to the D's.
May be something might happen which might put some doubts there..I hope to see an end to this challenge fiasco n hope to see Arjun back to his work after this and awaiting to see how things unfold here.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I like the fact that Manav is helping Purvi although I'm not quite sure of his mindset. Is he helping her because he considers her like a daughter or because he feels guilty? Or maybe both?

I am very happy he stepped up to help her knowing what it cost him with Ovi. He acted more like a father then and I appreciated Hiten's acting today. Well done!

Loved Arjun's line today about when Purvi's heart stops beating his name, his heart will also stop beating. Arch, you raised that boy right!!!

Where did Ovi go in the midst of this mele? And by herself too. Hmmm...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very well written about the kids, Archana !! Been a while since we have heard from you .. Glad to have you back..:)..
I totally agree with your take on these two kids of Archana and Manav - Ovi & Vishnu.
Ovi - I always thought that she was just a little self centered, a little obsessive,had delusions of Arjun's love for her, I am not talking about her love for Arjun, mind you, and is in denial about certain aspects but was basically a good natured girl brought up lovingly by her father and grand parents. Because we have not seen anything to the contrary. All the other things that she had done recently can be attributed to her disolusion with her breakup with Arjun. But, that she would turn out to be so inhumane is surprising to me. I expected her to ask her baba to not help Purvi, ywhich would probably be her instinctive reaction, yes, but not even after Manav says that Purvi's life is at stake. How callous is she that she says whatever happens will happen. They say children's traits are hereditary. But, we dont see that in her parents and not even Savita, who we precieve as the bad coin in the family. so, how did she turn out this way? We cannot attribute this to the lack of motherly love in her childhood or abandonment. She was brought up very lovingly by her father and grand parents. You are right in suspecting that she is gaining anger or even hatred for Arjun(she already hates purvi) which might not bode well for the future of both Arjun and Purvi.

Vishnu/Soham, I have said this about him before and still stand by that. He has a ruthlessness in him that tells you he will go to any lengths for what he or his father wants. You can blame it on his upbringing, his goonda father and Varsha doesnt matter. But, that is what he is right now, and will not be easy to convince me that he will change leaves suddenly. We cannot confuse him with the little innocent child that he was. Despite the belief of some, he has not shown any tenderness or brotherly love towards Purvi, all his actions are centered around the target money. For he dare not harm her for losing it. The Soham that is right now before us is none other than Vishnu.
I probably will get bashed on this again but, this is my opinion...:)

It is a paradox that two kids of Armaan have turned out this way, but the other two are so different. Sachin has his issues, but they are with Archana, mainly because of a history. But, at the time of crisis, although we havent got a chance to see much, whatever was shown shows his compassion for a girl whom he couldnt stand normally. It was twice, that he offered to help and was standing in support.
Teju is the same..She is rightfully in her view point, angry at Archana and Purvi, has her own reasons for it. But, she has stood solidly in silent support to her Sulochana Aaji and Archana. She did not forget the care and love they had shown to her before. She also grew up in the same house as Ovi, with the same upbringing, so why this difference...

As far as Manav approving of Arjun for Purvi, I am not so sure about that. He probably does notice Arjun's love for Purvi already, he said something to that extent today, but will not give his approval openly to Purvi at the cost of more unhappiness to Ovi. In this regard, I do not blame him. He is Ovi's father first, then come Purvi.

Archana, yes, it is a writing on the wall, that she will give he approval for Purvi. This incident has really shook her bad and if for nothing else, she will do it for Purvi.

Again, great going Arch...





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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Axiom

I like the fact that Manav is helping Purvi although I'm not quite sure of his mindset. Is he helping her because he considers her like a daughter or because he feels guilty? Or maybe both?

I am very happy he stepped up to help her knowing what it cost him with Ovi. He acted more like a father then and I appreciated Hiten's acting today. Well done!

Loved Arjun's line today about when Purvi's heart stops beating his name, his heart will also stop beating. Arch, you raised that boy right!!!

Where did Ovi go in the midst of this mele? And by herself too. Hmmm...



I didnt understand that either...Why would they let Ovi go out alone in the midst of all this happening? wouldnt they be more cautious...Is she upto something? Makes me wonder...With especially, the look she gave Arjun ... what say, Laurie?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Very well written about the kids, Archana !! Been a while since we have heard from you .. Glad to have you back..:)..
I totally agree with your take on these two kids of Archana and Manav - Ovi & Vishnu.
Ovi - I always thought that she was just a little self centered, a little obsessive,had delusions of Arjun's love for her, I am not talking about her love for Arjun, mind you, and is in denial about certain aspects but was basically a good natured girl brought up lovingly by her father and grand parents. Because we have not seen anything to the contrary. All the other things that she had done recently can be attributed to her disolusion with her breakup with Arjun. But, that she would turn out to be so inhumane is surprising to me. I expected her to ask her baba to not help Purvi, ywhich would probably be her instinctive reaction, yes, but not even after Manav says that Purvi's life is at stake. How callous is she that she says whatever happens will happen. They say children's traits are hereditary. But, we dont see that in her parents and not even Savita, who we precieve as the bad coin in the family. so, how did she turn out this way? We cannot attribute this to the lack of motherly love in her childhood or abandonment. She was brought up very lovingly by her father and grand parents. You are right in suspecting that she is gaining anger or even hatred for Arjun(she already hates purvi) which might not bode well for the future of both Arjun and Purvi.

Vishnu/Soham, I have said this about him before and still stand by that. He has a ruthlessness in him that tells you he will go to any lengths for what he or his father wants. You can blame it on his upbringing, his goonda father and Varsha doesnt matter. But, that is what he is right now, and will not be easy to convince me that he will change leaves suddenly. We cannot confuse him with the little innocent child that he was. Despite the belief of some, he has not shown any tenderness or brotherly love towards Purvi, all his actions are centered around the target money. For he dare not harm her for losing it. The Soham that is right now before us is none other than Vishnu.
I probably will get bashed on this again but, this is my opinion...:)

It is a paradox that two kids of Armaan have turned out this way, but the other two are so different. Sachin has his issues, but they are with Archana, mainly because of a history. But, at the time of crisis, although we havent got a chance to see much, whatever was shown shows his compassion for a girl whom he couldnt stand normally. It was twice, that he offered to help and was standing in support.
Teju is the same..She is rightfully in her view point, angry at Archana and Purvi, has her own reasons for it. But, she has stood solidly in silent support to her Sulochana Aaji and Archana. She did not forget the care and love they had shown to her before. She also grew up in the same house as Ovi, with the same upbringing, so why this difference...

As far as Manav approving of Arjun for Purvi, I am not so sure about that. He probably does notice Arjun's love for Purvi already, he said something to that extent today, but will not give his approval openly to Purvi at the cost of more unhappiness to Ovi. In this regard, I do not blame him. He is Ovi's father first, then come Purvi.

Archana, yes, it is a writing on the wall, that she will give he approval for Purvi. This incident has really shook her bad and if for nothing else, she will do it for Purvi.

Again, great going Arch...






Very well written Jyothi. You bring in a very important point of the contrast in Arman kids especially in Tej & Ovi.Its in a way sad to see Ovi shown to be stuck. Even Savita was mellowing down but Ovi not is something baffling.Good acting by Shruthi there. Ovi was shown to be on the right path of moving on by joining her Baba's office but now CV's pulled her back again. I wonder when Ovi will get a chance to move on.Will she ever get a chance or she will be made to look a depression stuck love failure obsessed soul..Only CV's will know. I hope when the challenge fiasco comes to a close soon now,,they also put an end to Ovi getting stuck and allow her to move on in her life.If not ,I think one day Ovi might very well land up in hospital for mental care.sad state for Ovi.Hope CV's allow her move on. I dont know whether Ovi will ever get close to Archu but I feel that her dialogue yesterday that "Purvi took her aai also" at the end has some significance. May she still feels the yawning for her mother deep inside and somehow who knows may be Purvi as irony has it might be instrumental too in helping Ovi close to Archu or some way or other. Its high time CV's allow Ovi to move on and give an opportunity for Ovi to get closer to Archu instead of making Ovi just be angry/bitter over Arvi or Archu.
Regarding Vishnu, yes he is still Vishnu and not Soham.For me,I will leave it to CV's n see how they plan to bring Soham back in Vishnu.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju



I didnt understand that either...Why would they let Ovi go out alone in the midst of all this happening? wouldnt they be more cautious...Is she upto something? Makes me wonder...With especially, the look she gave Arjun ... what say, Laurie?


Great minds sleuth alike Jyothi 😃

When I saw her come back alone for a second it crossed my mind that she took the kidnapper's phone number from Manav's phone and went out to make him a counter offer to off Purvi. She obviously didn't go home to change 😆

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